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[ PVP ] Why they make SB Kakuzu Earth Grudge so strong?

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On 2018-05-26 20:32:52Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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This makes no sense, he's supposed to be a good event ninja, with nothing special about him, not gamebreaking, but now he beats everyone? This shouldn't be possible lol... It's not good for the game to do stuff like this, make regular good ninja OP out of nowhere and beat 100% of the other ninjas with him, including ninjas who are supposed to be way better than him... no...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UdVmK3p3bg


Jib Edit: Let's not give anyone the birdie =]




This post was last edited by Jiburiru on 2018-05-26 20:32:52.
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On 2018-05-23 17:53:32Show this Author Only
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WTH with Edo Hashirama how this can happen how he die in round 2




This post was last edited by Raizel Di Cadiz on 2018-05-23 17:53:47.
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On 2018-05-23 18:24:57Show this Author Only
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  • Raizel Di Cadiz On 2018-05-23 17:53:32
  • WTH with Edo Hashirama how this can happen how he die in round 2

Yes that's what I was talking about, there you have ~3300 seal scrolls ninja (1-2~ years of playtime to get him, depending on you), being 1 shotted by 18k~ coupons ninja when he first appeared (2-3 months to get him even as F2P, depending on luck a little also, actually he could even be ~500 coupon ninja come to think of it).

And he probably died in round 2 because he was already dead in round 1, but it glitched and didn't show the animation for his death of course.

And if you look at the fight in the beginning, the Kakuzu guy actually had 10k less power...

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On 2018-05-23 18:37:12Show this Author Only
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Well...


Passive 3 +2: Super Armor +2: Immune to Low Float, High Float, Repulse, and Knockdown. For each Chakra point you have, this unit will increase its Attack and Ninjutsu by 1% and their Defense by 2%

+

Mystery +2: Hidden Jutsu - Earth Grudge Fear +2 [Prompt]: Causes... If the selected unit is defeated, Kakuzu will immediate recover 30% of his Life points and his Ninjutsu will increase by 50% (This can be stacked).

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100 chakra

=

BLAP you gone girl baby.




This post was last edited by Castnicke on 2018-05-23 18:37:46.
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On 2018-05-23 18:52:06Show this Author Only
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  • Castnicke On 2018-05-23 18:37:12
  • Well...


    Passive 3 +2: Super Armor +2: Immune to Low Float, High Float, Repulse, and Knockdown. For each Chakra point you have, this unit will increase its Attack and Ninjutsu by 1% and their Defense by 2%

    +

    Mystery +2: Hidden Jutsu - Earth Grudge Fear +2 [Prompt]: Causes... If the selected unit is defeated, Kakuzu will immediate recover 30% of his Life points and his Ninjutsu will increase by 50% (This can be stacked).

    +

    100 chakra

    =

    BLAP you gone girl baby.

They need to nerf him, and his supports that make him gamebreaking, this is not normal, 1 noob ninja 1 shotting supposedly OP ninjas, why even bother with other characters? Why even put other characters in the game this is broken.

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On 2018-05-23 19:05:21Show this Author Only
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Just to add something: both the passive and the mystery are +2, so you need 300 more fragments of him if not 400 to actually be able to use him that way so the 18k coupons ninja became a 90-100k ninja. Moreover kakuzu is not immune to debuffs by default, so any fast round 1 cc makes him useless with decent control stats. Is not different from a slightly boosted angel god konan.

Remember also that shark bomb in 5.0 steals chakra and that sb immobile mystery immobile even immune ninjas, so you have your reply.

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On 2018-05-23 20:00:55Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-05-23 19:05:21
  • Just to add something: both the passive and the mystery are +2, so you need 300 more fragments of him if not 400 to actually be able to use him that way so the 18k coupons ninja became a 90-100k ninja. Moreover kakuzu is not immune to debuffs by default, so any fast round 1 cc makes him useless with decent control stats. Is not different from a slightly boosted angel god konan.

    Remember also that shark bomb in 5.0 steals chakra and that sb immobile mystery immobile even immune ninjas, so you have your reply.

I was thinking Sasuke Susanoo (immune to ninjutsu) + Hokage Minato (40% permanent res) + LM (Root of Warrior, additional 100% res) + Masked Man (CC Round 1)

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On 2018-05-23 21:28:46Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-05-23 19:05:21
  • Just to add something: both the passive and the mystery are +2, so you need 300 more fragments of him if not 400 to actually be able to use him that way so the 18k coupons ninja became a 90-100k ninja. Moreover kakuzu is not immune to debuffs by default, so any fast round 1 cc makes him useless with decent control stats. Is not different from a slightly boosted angel god konan.

    Remember also that shark bomb in 5.0 steals chakra and that sb immobile mystery immobile even immune ninjas, so you have your reply.

This is about CN server. You DO NOT use frags to get skillbreaks. You could fully upgrade a character with 2-3k coupons.

No misinformation, please.


About edo hashirama, he is still the king of ranked / GNW, but in 1v1 he is nothing but a chakra stealer and debuff cleanser. It's not unusual to see him dying turn 2-3.




This post was last edited by Shryke on 2018-05-23 21:29:04.
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On 2018-05-24 01:01:36Show this Author Only
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  • Shryke On 2018-05-23 21:28:46
  • This is about CN server. You DO NOT use frags to get skillbreaks. You could fully upgrade a character with 2-3k coupons.

    No misinformation, please.


    About edo hashirama, he is still the king of ranked / GNW, but in 1v1 he is nothing but a chakra stealer and debuff cleanser. It's not unusual to see him dying turn 2-3.

A LOT of people are going to be mad at Oasis for no reason if they don't do their reserach about the skillbook system update. Knowing their past actions, Oasis will just follow China's move rather than keeping the frag-to-skillbook system.


There's also a rule about certain ninjas don't have to be 4* to have skillbooks/skill breaks and edo hashirama falls under this category so no need on using frags.




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On 2018-05-24 01:01:41Show this Author Only
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I'm not impressed, i still see the lineup the CF used fully chaosed every round with a move 1 azure fang enough stacked that owns initiative.




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On 2018-05-24 01:25:04Show this Author Only
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4th Raikage skill breakthrough and edo kakuzu should be nerfed as soon as possible LOL

even regular tobi got nerfed along time ago in our english server, more over that broken unbalanced 4th raikage and edo kakuzu. Lets hope english oasis is not stup1d enough to bring that broken skill breakthrough to our english server.

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On 2018-05-24 05:32:18Show this Author Only
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  • margonda On 2018-05-24 01:25:04
  • 4th Raikage skill breakthrough and edo kakuzu should be nerfed as soon as possible LOL

    even regular tobi got nerfed along time ago in our english server, more over that broken unbalanced 4th raikage and edo kakuzu. Lets hope english oasis is not stup1d enough to bring that broken skill breakthrough to our english server.

There is no way they'll nerf 4th Raikage as it is one of the Super Rares in Kage.

On top of that, if it was really that much of a problem, they would had nerfed his skill breakthrough a long time ago.

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On 2018-05-24 07:02:11Show this Author Only
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  • RenjiAsuka On 2018-05-24 05:32:18
  • There is no way they'll nerf 4th Raikage as it is one of the Super Rares in Kage.

    On top of that, if it was really that much of a problem, they would had nerfed his skill breakthrough a long time ago.

atleast they need to nerf one of 4th raikage skill breakthrough that make him literally unbalanced/broken LOL

eg; nerfing defense passive skills and his damage since he can do damage every round with chakra condition at 80. Making his damage like KCM Narutos damage would make him more balance to this game

A sane players will understand this, unless he is one of the few p2w players or other players who already got that 4th raikage LOL

I hope oasis would listen to this like how they cancel to bring tactic % feature to our english server




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On 2018-05-24 07:05:31Show this Author Only
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  • margonda On 2018-05-24 01:25:04
  • 4th Raikage skill breakthrough and edo kakuzu should be nerfed as soon as possible LOL

    even regular tobi got nerfed along time ago in our english server, more over that broken unbalanced 4th raikage and edo kakuzu. Lets hope english oasis is not stup1d enough to bring that broken skill breakthrough to our english server.

Maybe after we get Edo Kakuzu. Because Earth Grudge Kakuzu isn't reanimated, you can tell by his eyes, tags, and clothing.


Though, on the regards to nerfing them....hmm... 4th Raikage is a super, though...well, we'll have to wait and see.

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  • margonda On 2018-05-24 07:02:11
  • atleast they need to nerf one of 4th raikage skill breakthrough that make him literally unbalanced/broken LOL

    eg; nerfing defense passive skills and his damage since he can do damage every round with chakra condition at 80. Making his damage like KCM Narutos damage would make him more balance to this game

    A sane players will understand this, unless he is one of the few p2w players or other players who already got that 4th raikage LOL

    I hope oasis would listen to this like how they cancel to bring tactic % feature to our english server

Again, if he was that much of a problem in China, then they would had nerfed him already. His skillbooks have been out for 11 months and they have done nothing about it. Which shows it is fine.

You also forget they have a different meta and mechanics to their game than here. You can't look at it from a mindset if you only played in the English Servers.

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On 2018-05-24 14:00:57Show this Author Only
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Ever since they had skill breakthrough/skill exchange system in china I don't think they ever nerf anything. Simply because you need to buy ninjas in this game with real money or with tons of effort so if someone bought something with real money and if they nerf that thing the player bought mean they just scam that player thus will make him quit => no money + bad rep.

Instead of nerf they will release other ninjas to counter that so called OP ninja, it's how it work now in china.

The only reason why they can hard nerfed Tobi was because he is free and not something that cost real money.

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On 2018-05-24 16:50:54Show this Author Only
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  • Shryke On 2018-05-23 21:28:46
  • This is about CN server. You DO NOT use frags to get skillbreaks. You could fully upgrade a character with 2-3k coupons.

    No misinformation, please.


    About edo hashirama, he is still the king of ranked / GNW, but in 1v1 he is nothing but a chakra stealer and debuff cleanser. It's not unusual to see him dying turn 2-3.

Of course, but maybe you did not figure that here they try to make money out of anything. So, once we will get his breaktroughs, do not worry that the new skillbook system will not be yet introduced here (the mood dango only system should ring a bell in you. Where is in our version?)

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On 2018-05-25 00:28:12Show this Author Only
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Why not just nerf all ninjas and buff all the original vanilla stuff. Cause certainly it was just straight up ninjas that made the difference in the youtube video when we have no idea what his stats are and simply just look what he can do if i buff the crap out of him.


*sarcasm detected*

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On 2018-05-25 01:23:55Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-05-24 16:50:54
  • Of course, but maybe you did not figure that here they try to make money out of anything. So, once we will get his breaktroughs, do not worry that the new skillbook system will not be yet introduced here (the mood dango only system should ring a bell in you. Where is in our version?)

I'm more than ok with the current mood we have, since i don't like at all the one china has. I don't want to waste coupons and ingots for something that i can get from events.


Out of sheer curiosity, do you know how the chinese mood system works? Since you are calling it "dango only" i guess not. Please, use your time more wisely and check how that thing works.




This post was last edited by Shryke on 2018-05-25 03:03:07.
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On 2018-05-26 19:49:17Show this Author Only
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I am looking into getting this kakuzu, I don't think he's overly broken, as he isnt immune to debuffs although sure some people can make him immune, but he DOES have super armor and there are people who counter that. But I dont think spending so much for this ninja only for him to be nerfed is fair to people who probably will drop more than me for him, to be honest it sounds like you made this post because youre super upset that a ninja is getting skill breaks to compete with more OP ninjas.

At the same time it isnt fair for people who probably spent maybe even 5k seals on the treasures and dont get stuff like madara six or normal or kurama six or normal kurama. This ninja atleast gives them a chance to defeat them even if they arent as "RICH" as everyone else. Cause those ninjas cost over 2k if you actually want to spend for them, nearly 3k probably more if RNG isnt in your favor. And to be honest I feel they already ripped off people with hokage tsunade seeing as some people DID buy her for 600 and 800 at one point, or 1k.

Now shes not even that great anymore unless youre buying her to support your group assuming your group is super important in the server so they WILL back you up to get some juicy heals. So I honestly think this is fair, plus he has a passive that works only with akatsuki, granted while he maybe still "slaps" someone elses team, if he was against some super armor removals he'd probably lose or it'd be a close fight. So I don't know man.


Jib Edit: Slight edit =p please no swearing, thanks.




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