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[ PVP ] Jonin Minato with Bonds vs Hokage Minato Skillbreakthrough

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You guys realise when Jonin Minato gets bonds with Kakashi Kid and Obito, he will AOE Interrupt and Paralysis the whole team (triggering every dodge ninja in the process), after doing this mystery he will do standard attack and since the combo is stacked on him (and scaled at this point) it will be 90% chance to combo and next round mystery again.

Let's see: Team with Hokage Minato, 4 combo instead of 8, have to wait 2 rounds for mystery, BUT 40% permanent resistance (right now it gets dispelled because of Han, Masked Man, Shisui, Itachi Anbu, blabla, but after I believe it will disappear only after he dies, and since he dodges and he's stacked, and you're dead without Hokage Minato anyway, it will be for the whole fight)

Team with Jonin Minato: 8+ combo, paralysis, mystery every round, can target someone and 1 shot him/her in full combo

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On 2018-05-15 18:46:42Show this Author Only
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Oh and Hokage Minato's standard attacks are better, but Jonin will have much more going for him. And we both know the real damage lies in mystery, where you pinpoint 1 target and do heavy damage on it, not random damage on random targets with random 10 hit combo.

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Also I forgot Hokage Minato's mystery is a big fail if you don't click on tagged opponent, whereas Jonin's hits hard every time with no prerequisites.

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Hokage Minato's Skillbreak isn't an aura its a buff and when it is permanent as long as the ninjas that have it applied to are alive they'll have the buff even if he dies.

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the only obstacle with jonin minato to reset his mystery is if kimimaro han is in front of him(dont know if jonin minato mystery dodge their passive that blocks auto attack if so its sure can be mystery every round)

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On 2018-05-15 21:09:35Show this Author Only
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  • nutshasa@gmail. On 2018-05-15 20:47:49
  • the only obstacle with jonin minato to reset his mystery is if kimimaro han is in front of him(dont know if jonin minato mystery dodge their passive that blocks auto attack if so its sure can be mystery every round)

Yup, I believe the bond mystery triggers dodge, Han is always a problem and him being exactly in front of Minato is very situational. Kimimaro... this isn't 2.0 anymore haha. Normal Konan may also be a problem.

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  • xxMihai On 2018-05-15 21:09:35
  • Yup, I believe the bond mystery triggers dodge, Han is always a problem and him being exactly in front of Minato is very situational. Kimimaro... this isn't 2.0 anymore haha. Normal Konan may also be a problem.

well you can just put minato on 2nd move so that your first move triggers whatever dodge the enemy in front has.

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On 2018-05-15 22:13:40Show this Author Only
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I love reading your threads when i'm on train going home after an hard day at work. The insane amount of misinformation in this thread is awesome!


Did you actually read the whole bond skill before posting?

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  • Shryke On 2018-05-15 22:13:40
  • I love reading your threads when i'm on train going home after an hard day at work. The insane amount of misinformation in this thread is awesome!


    Did you actually read the whole bond skill before posting?

https://youtu.be/3_d_COnFbwk?t=5m1s

This guy has Hokage Minato, and videos with Six Paths Madara, there is a reason he always uses Jonin Minato in PvP events. I personally only saw him use Hokage Minato in bonds.

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On 2018-05-15 22:41:27Show this Author Only
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  • xxMihai On 2018-05-15 22:25:05
  • https://youtu.be/3_d_COnFbwk?t=5m1s

    This guy has Hokage Minato, and videos with Six Paths Madara, there is a reason he always uses Jonin Minato in PvP events. I personally only saw him use Hokage Minato in bonds.

I really appreciate you know how to link videos. A bit less that you didn't realise that his videos features up to 3 accounts, every one with different ninjas.


Still, you didn't answer. Did you read how EXACTLY jonin minato's bond mystery works?

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  • Shryke On 2018-05-15 22:41:27
  • I really appreciate you know how to link videos. A bit less that you didn't realise that his videos features up to 3 accounts, every one with different ninjas.


    Still, you didn't answer. Did you read how EXACTLY jonin minato's bond mystery works?

Read it somewhere, exactly what it did but remember bits and pieces. I know you need kid kakashi + obito, bond level 25 with the cards. I know you c*e it first round, then you have normal mystery. It does paralysis and instead of targeting 2 people it targets the whole lineup (not field). Then I think third round you c*e it again. Or something like that.

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  • Shryke On 2018-05-15 22:41:27
  • I really appreciate you know how to link videos. A bit less that you didn't realise that his videos features up to 3 accounts, every one with different ninjas.


    Still, you didn't answer. Did you read how EXACTLY jonin minato's bond mystery works?

If you look at 6:00 in the video, it targets everyone(including clone) and does paralysis to everyone who isn't immune of course.

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  • Shryke On 2018-05-15 22:41:27
  • I really appreciate you know how to link videos. A bit less that you didn't realise that his videos features up to 3 accounts, every one with different ninjas.


    Still, you didn't answer. Did you read how EXACTLY jonin minato's bond mystery works?

Even if he features 3 accounts with different ninja, it is no surprise he only chose to feature Hokage Minato in bonds.

So where is this misinformation you're talking about?

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On 2018-05-15 23:37:33Show this Author Only
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I did 10-14k damage on same bp as mine using HK Minato . idk bout jonin since i dont have him , still getting free frags .


. but HK minato kinda expensive in China for some reason .

but yah jonin minato with bond skill probably better in solo pvp and hokage minato is better in multiple pvp situation,




This post was last edited by Kuro하돌 on 2018-05-15 23:52:04.
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  • Kuro하돌 On 2018-05-15 23:37:33
  • I did 10-14k damage on same bp as mine using HK Minato . idk bout jonin since i dont have him , still getting free frags .


    . but HK minato kinda expensive in China for some reason .

    but yah jonin minato with bond skill probably better in solo pvp and hokage minato is better in multiple pvp situation,

Maybe they have plans to make Hokage Minato overpowered in future, like they did with Ay Fourth Raikage.

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On 2018-05-16 02:56:32Show this Author Only
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  • xxMihai On 2018-05-15 22:45:04
  • Read it somewhere, exactly what it did but remember bits and pieces. I know you need kid kakashi + obito, bond level 25 with the cards. I know you c*e it first round, then you have normal mystery. It does paralysis and instead of targeting 2 people it targets the whole lineup (not field). Then I think third round you c*e it again. Or something like that.

5 combo, full tai dmg, hit everyone inside the enemy team (not field) and proc interruption, tag (1 round), paralysys (1 round). Knockdown to selected target.

BF cd: 1 CD: 4 (2) dodgeable: yes.

After use, next release will be normal mystery.


Basically, if you can combo with your auto you c*e it every 2 turns (the other turn will be normal mystery).


While it was basically the strongest mystery on release (now is worse than SB sasuke and SB deidara and far far worse than madara 10 tails), you need to understand that the lack of field AoE makes it worse than HK minato's in gnw / ranked. Also you need to consider avaiability: HK minato is behind a pay wall of 30+k ingots and only 10 are rewarded each time (in CN).




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  • Shryke On 2018-05-16 02:56:32
  • 5 combo, full tai dmg, hit everyone inside the enemy team (not field) and proc interruption, tag (1 round), paralysys (1 round). Knockdown to selected target.

    BF cd: 1 CD: 4 (2) dodgeable: yes.

    After use, next release will be normal mystery.


    Basically, if you can combo with your auto you c*e it every 2 turns (the other turn will be normal mystery).


    While it was basically the strongest mystery on release (now is worse than SB sasuke and SB deidara and far far worse than madara 10 tails), you need to understand that the lack of field AoE makes it worse than HK minato's in gnw / ranked. Also you need to consider avaiability: HK minato is behind a pay wall of 30+k ingots and only 10 are rewarded each time (in CN).

SB Sasuke and SB Deidara do more dmg because they have field AoE ofc.

Also, the bond mystery is NIN and TAI dmg from what I remember, only normal mystery is TAI only. (the paralysis and fire style make it NIN dmg too)

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  • xxMihai On 2018-05-16 03:15:48
  • SB Sasuke and SB Deidara do more dmg because they have field AoE ofc.

    Also, the bond mystery is NIN and TAI dmg from what I remember, only normal mystery is TAI only. (the paralysis and fire style make it NIN dmg too)

No, it's just tai. Feel free to watch him play tower / sage against a madara, no damage.


Do you understand now my rant about these posts? How can we debate over what is better, if you don't have enough info to properly hold your point?


Edit: the damage i was talking about is damage/ninja.




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The only reason why so many people in CN using jonin minato is because 4th version is really rare and expensive (recharge ranking event). If they sell him in event like Oasis did here then I'd say there will be more 4th minato than jonin in china.

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On 2018-05-16 15:31:38Show this Author Only
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the truth is jonin minato skill broken is most suitable for 1vs1. While Hokage Minato is most suitable for 2vs2 or 3vs3. It will be better to use jonin minato in 1vs1 than hokage minato unless u have other ninja that will support hokage minato to tag opponent like ANGLE (lol typo from last event) konan , 3rd raikage, shisui etc. Otherwise it will be veryhard to win the battle againts other immune team or team that can remove tag debuff.

Summary: Jonin minato is better in most situation for 1vs1. Hokage Minato is better in 1vs1 only if u have other ninja that will support his tag debuff. As for GNW, Ranked Battle, Decisive Bond.

The end lol

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