Hey guys!
Let's talk a bit about buffs in general:
-Removable
-Non-removable
-Not-stacking
Removable Buffs:
Removable buffs are the ones that can be removed by ninjas such as Han , Masked Man , Shisui, Wind Main dust mystery, Anbu Itachi etc. (and obviously these buffs are inferior due to that fact)
These buffs usually have written something like "lasts for * rounds" which is easiest way to recognize a removable buff.
Here are some examples:
1. GNW Hinata mystery (same goes for normal Hinata mystery)
The evasion rate increase can be removed however the extra standard attacks aren't removed in this one (which is pretty weird actually)
2. Mangetsu passive
Yes this is a removable buff, if you use Masked Man in round 1 on a ninja that has this buff he won't be dodging in round 2.
3. Iruka buff
Same goes for all of these same buffs (Edo Sasori, Killer Bee, Konan)
4. Lightning Main mystery
Same as Hinata mystery, the crit rate buff and immunity get removed, however the 2 bonus attacks remain.
5. Main Character Enhacements
Every Main Character enhacement buff is removable.
Non-removable Buffs:
Non-removable ones are the ones that still remain even after those ninjas "remove" them.
Of course they are way more superior and reliable.
Easiest way to recognize these buffs is if it says something like "as long as this unit is alive" "as long as you have a shield/full hp" or if it simply doesn't state any number of rounds for it lasting.
Also Barriers are considered non-removable buffs, the buffs from barriers are there as long as a barrier is there.
Some examples:
1. Barrier
2. Madara/Konan passives
3. Lightning Main leech
Same goes for Fire Main Ninjutsu Urge.
4. Lightning Main Heart Flux
Same goes for Ay 3rd and Angel Konan passives.
5. WB Asuma buff
Same goes for Earth Main shield buff.
Not-stacking Buffs
Not-stacking buffs are the ones that won't work both at same time (for example you use 2x ninjas that give 30% which should be 60% more but in reality you only get 30% because they don't stack) .
First off none of same ninja buffs will stack (so in bond arena-GNW if you use 2-3x konan, 2-3x edo sasori , 2-3x killer bee for example only 1 will buff, however all 2-3 shields will work which can still be good) .
Another obvious not-stacking ones are barriers (only 1 barrier can be on field and that's the one that will buff your ninjas, other barrier buffs will disappear if they aren't on field).
Now for some reason Iruka and Killer Bee buffs don't stack with each other (so you shouldn't be using them together unless you want for the shields.)
WB Asuma + Earth Main DO stack (they sound similar but one is for full hp, other is for shields which is what separates them).
Normal Konan + Edo Sasori DO stack (good for Edo Deidara)
That would be all for now, if you have any questions or feel I missed out something please let me know! Hope you found it helpful.
About the Non-Stacking buffs part, From what I've seen, having triple (or double) lightning mains with anbu corps seems to stack, at least the leech part does not sure about the damage portion. Might be wrong but thats what I thought
Yes , yes you are right, the leech from FM and LM do stack actually !
So does that mean if I use Chojo, Manga, Water Main, and Mei. Chojo won't get the buffs from water main water enhance, Chojo passive to increase damage, and Mei's barrier.
Means he will have an atk power of 94% extra, or am I wrong somewhere.
He will get all the buffs from that team, however keep in mind that Water Main enhance is only 3 units so it will be 3 random since that team is all 4 Water
i have a question, if i'm doing bonds and using fire main ninjutsu urge, other team lighting main anbu tactic
will the ninja that has standart atk & nin like hidan dpb for example, will he leech double ?
Yes those passives do stack and leech should be higher
Question. What type of buffs does the sound 5 have on them? Are they removable, like if I use Mifune or Itachi Anbu on Kimi. Will is def and res buff be removed?
Those are scaling buffs and they are permanent and non-removable always
That's actually a great note I forgot to mention those.
misses an important info:
removable buffs are active for the whole duration even if the ninja that granted them died.
non-removable buffs are active only as long as the ninja that grants them is alive.
Hello, Hashiramas passive broken , is non - removable even if Hashirama dies !!
Speaking of people dying, which buffs are carried over if certain ninjas were revived? Example, Orochimaru has a buff that increments for every death on the battlefield. If say Orochimaru has a 30% buff from his passive but then dies, and revives, does he carry on that 30% buff or does it get reset? Same thing with pretty much every scaling ninja (E.g. Roshi, Hebihime, Kimimaru.. etc)
Hello, Hashiramas passive broken , is non - removable even if Hashirama dies !!
Once you skillbreak hashirama his passive ceases to be a removable buff and becomes a not removable buff (aka aura) as you pointed out. But exactly like every aura it is in effect as long as the ninja that emanates it is alive. If skillbroken hashi dies the aura effect is not anymore active. Just to explain better: if you fight a blitz team that is not able to remove buffs (like the old darui, wb asuma, iruka, mb blitz) and hashirama dies in round 1 if is not skillbroken then your team continues to have the buff for the following 4 rounds, if is skillbroken you lose it in round 1. You can try by yourself if is really so or not. Make a duel against somebody and use shark bomb in round 1, then wait for him to kill hashi skillbroken and use shark bomb again in round 2 and you'll see that works like i said because your shark bomb will land 20-30% less damage.
Did you really think that a single skillbreak made hashirama passive better than madara passive?
Sorry to bump this thread, but i was reading your " Player Guide ] Buffs Stacking Detailed Info" (great Guide btw!), and i saw in that guide that Konan and Edo Sasori DO NOT stack!, but in this guide you said that they do. I am just hoping to get some clarification here, as i may choose to run both on the same team.
https://forum-narutoen.oasgames.com/page/show-post-31625-1.html
I wanna ask something, as I found no more detailed info about this in other topics. I came here looking for an explanation on Iruka Y+1 passive, that states that 15% of nin is stacking each time until his action. My questions are:
1. Is this a non-removable buff, which dissapear from the battlefield when Iruka dies? Or is this a type of "scaling" for all the team?
2. If, for example, a ninja modifies the stats (i.e. Kushina [Red Hot-blooded habanero] ), he buffs +15% nin of ba
3. Related to the above question: is iruka buffing 15% of himself's Nin to the other Konoha ninjas?
Thanks, it may clarify me wether to use Iruka or not in scaling teams already.
I wanna ask something, as I found no more detailed info about this in other topics. I came here looking for an explanation on Iruka Y+1 passive, that states that 15% of nin is stacking each time until his action. My questions are:
1. Is this a non-removable buff, which dissapear from the battlefield when Iruka dies? Or is this a type of "scaling" for all the team?
2. If, for example, a ninja modifies the stats (i.e. Kushina [Red Hot-blooded habanero] ), he buffs +15% nin of ba
3. Related to the above question: is iruka buffing 15% of himself's Nin to the other Konoha ninjas?
Thanks, it may clarify me wether to use Iruka or not in scaling teams already.
1. it's considered an unremovable scale. The "scaling" will last on that ninja until that ninja dies, iruka's status of dead or alive doesnt affect the scale.
2. the scale is 15% of that ninja's ba
3. i just answer above.
also... your desc
1. it's considered an unremovable scale. The "scaling" will last on that ninja until that ninja dies, iruka's status of dead or alive doesnt affect the scale.
2. the scale is 15% of that ninja's ba
3. i just answer above.
also... your desc
Thank you so much for your answer! I come from an Spanish server, and the desc
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