Opinions? :d

Random thoughts.

Kushina will be bursted down too easily in first position, since she has no healer to sustain her.

Beside the "OMG Kushina and his immunity suppress hurr durr", this team doesn't exactly deal tons of damage, so it's really impratical in sage war, where it's all about winning in the lowest time possible.

Other ways to massively reduce this team dmg output is just having a kisame samehada on the enemy team.

I truly believe that the water main, sailor sakura, bee, kushina can out-live and out-tank this team. So, more fit for space time and matsuri.

All of this goes back to THE question: If there is a team that works better, with better risk/reward factor, why should I play this and take the risk of performing worse?

I'm not saying that this team is bad, just wondering if you would gamble your first place in sage / a win on matsuri / a potential extra pack on space time to prove it.

With Kisame you're better for 1 round while this team is full immune, then what?

Burst down in one round if she isn't stacked, she got plenty of buffs here & Leech. Vs Blitz she just uses mystery and gg.

First of all buff wise and combo wise my team does more damage, while that version of the team relies on poison.

Seocondly this team has more than enough sustainability on Kushina with Killer Bee (she heals twice) and leech from LM.

Third, LM and Kakashi are safer than Sailor Sakura and Water Main will ever be. (I can think of about 3-4 teams that can one shot water main, one shot meaning 1 full combo) 100% resistance, immune & hidden

Fourth, Kakashi does more damage than Sailor and actually combo's. LM is there for buff, that's why I use calm mind on him, so he can be immune every round, but you can make him more offensive also and it will still work fine.

So don't say it works better unless you can prove it.

Max combo with King of Hell on both teams. I wonder which do more damage like this, the water main team is clearly more support oriented, with 3 supports and one damage dealer over time.

Kisame'll proceed draining their chakra, lowering the dmg output of your teams. This without considering the fact that both your main DDs' standards would be against kisame's sharks.

I'm missing "the plenty of buffs" part of the teams (30% from Bee, in just 1 team, isn't really plenty imo...)

There is a reason if the jinpachi + kushimaru team is still somewhat viable for "low levels" in CN, the ability to remove debuffs thanks to both jinpachi and sasori could cleanse the immobile from kushina.

Your answer still doesn't cover my other cons.

"30% from Bee, in just 1 team" you're forgetting the 25% attack and 25% leech from Lightning Main. Kakashi Anbu buffs his own damage also by 30% vs non-Konoha ninjas. So yea, these are plenty of buffs since I've had teams with 0 buffs that won fights, and got me good rankings, in Sage too also.

You're putting this Shark Kisame too highly, this team doesn't have any barrier he can remove and those sharks just make me waste standards for a round then what? Not even gonna bother on this one.

And yes I did answer the other cons with the pictures, but I'm gonna spell it out.

First of all this team is more practical than the water main team for Sage World, while that team has 3 supports and 1 damage dealer, this one has 2 damage dealers, 1 pseudo support and 1 support. It c*e king of hell and do more combos than the water team, thus fixing the damage problem even further. But then again, it needs to be tested whether 9 combos with lightning tiger is worse than 6 combos with king of hell in terms of damage. You c*ways make tweaks to the team depending on what you encounter, this is true for both versions. I'm not saying it's the best team you c*e for Sage, but it would work.

Secondly, out-living and out-tanking doesn't equal better in Matsuri and Space Time, this isn't Han Roshi with Water Main and Sailor meta anymore. Fights now end quick, because we have ninjas that can do that now. I already said why this team has more than enough sustainability, even more than yours considering both water main and sailor are vulnerable. Ignite sailor then combo her, or go straight for water main. Then what?

Thirdly, I didn't think of this team as a blitz team for Sage, I thought of it as a team with little openings that can be used in all pvp events and do above average or very good. There may be better teams out there, and if there are post them here. I'm curious.

Fourth, that Jinpachi+Kushimaru team is dead once you use Masked Man, Shisui, Kushina, whatever removes buffs on Kushimaru. Because he is very squishy and dies in 1 full combo after his 100% resistance and immunity is gone. Even if they cleanse his debuffs, he's a goner at that point. Regular starter pack f2p newbie friendly team to make f2p feel good imo.

Fifth, I'm defending a team I didn't even try way too much just because I think it would work. I said myself I didn't test it. But I don't like when you're disregarding it, saying another team is better while giving no real argument or proof for that claim.

I personally only have 1 problem with the team since you can basically use any team in SWB as long as you have the power, but what are you gonna do if you face a dodge team with masked man?

They can't do anything the first 2 rounds, they can only use Masked Man on Killer Bee and Kushina since Kakashi and LM are Hidden. So they won't inflict any debuff on anyone. Just wait to bait they're dodges with standard attacks, Kushina attacks randomly so she might hit one of them, then use Mystery, remove their immunity if they have temporary one and immobile, paralyze them. GG.

you do remember dodge teams are ether with wind, fire or earth right? 2 of them will not care about the small damage and wind can just take anbu kakashi's buff off

Actually the dodge teams are Fire or Lightning mostly. Wind is squishy and will definitely care about the damage lol. I have no idea what earth dodge team you're talking about.

Also I just put this team idea in here cause I think it would work, you wanna see if it actually works then try it for yourself since I don't have it and can't post pictures beating those teams you're talking about.

If you say they don't care about the "small damage" then explain why, I see Earth main teams tanking hits but Wind, Fire, Lightning or even Water? No. And first of all the damage isn't small.

Masked man takes pretty much negates the buff for kushina and bee.and the first turn does not matter much since kushina combos don't do much damage. wind main can go flower guard(and before you say kushina takes it off, not really its just for the turn) kinda the same with fire main with mirror shield mystery, JM, MM, shisui if set up and stacked on the minato will mostly kill kushina in 1 combo or close enough to that.
either way sorry if it sounded like its totally * or that the team itself is bad, its a good team but depends on power and how stacked the ninjas are for who is fighting it and your own.

Lol, this is pos. 1 ninja we're talking about, with plenty of HP, pure immunity and stack.

JM, MM, Shisui you say would kill her in 1 full combo? Probably with 20k difference in power my friend. Stop making absurd claims.

Btw that team with JM, MM, Shisui doesn't even kill my non stacked supports in the back row in 1 full combo with power advantage. LOL.

But they get close, if they have the power advantage that is.

Also as long as LM in field, 25% attack and 25% leech will still be there. And masked man just wasted a potential immobile on a immune ninja. GG.

you're asking OUR OPINIONS then now critizing it, how lame lol. and shark kisame-jinpachi-deidara edo-EM can beat your team

The water team runs lightning tiger and 2nd chase of azure fang.

There is literally no reason to use king of hell.

Hmm, what I actually wanted was to see someone use that team since I can't and show if it works or not, not some baseless/biased opinions.

And actually I beat that team you showed there with the team I use right now, and it's worse than the team presented here, although he couldn't bait me into cancelling my mysteries then.