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On 2018-04-07 06:44:56Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Having alts to plunder and clean is exploitation of the system. Even if you did one alt per server, merged servers maintain segregation of server id's, so one could easily make alt on a merged server or simply have had one there before the servers merged..

This is becoming a very big problem on a server I play. One player has 10 alts(that I know of for sure), 7 in his group and 3 in others. He is strong enough to support 3 alts and runs himself freely as well as running ss from the 3 alts to plunder them as well. I have caught him several times clearing himself right after plundering his alts As well as use these alts that are embedded in other groups to watch who is standing at plunder/convoy officers; would love to see officers further apart in larger group bases.

I understand this loophole and am not so annoyed at some one like him sharing his alts to plunder to give to everyone in the group, but he takes them all for himself. I also know he has conspired with a friend in another group to share his alts(as in he logs them in himself) to do this to no end.

So on top of that this group he leads, joins gnw every week, but there are only 4 real active players and loads of alts. They aren't successful, but thats not a real problem, this alt laden group lingers around deterring any possibility of a server merge request. There's only 2 real groups left that have any real activity and then his. To the tune that he gives the majority of the packs he easily gets from 3rd place to his alts. 4 of those alts have done 300 pulls for rebate.

How to report this abuse and what would be the likelihood of any action.

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On 2018-04-07 13:33:59Show this Author Only
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See my latest post in the Missbehavour thread. They just don't seem to care :)

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On 2018-04-07 13:42:08Show this Author Only
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No offense intended but i think you're just jealous of his activity, his capability of doing such things on his own and gaining too much which you can't do .. I know this is illegal, and it is ban-able .. All you need is to have a Solid and Hard Proof of his activity, including the time stamps of each screenshot, if you can make him admit all your accusations then it is much better .. This thing has been around for ages in this game and this is what the other players to continue their playing life in their own servers, specially if the said server is dying slowly .. And almost all people who reports this kind of system is just simply jealous and envious of the gains of the said user .. If you, yourself is not affected by his action then let him be, mind your own business as they say ..

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On 2018-04-08 03:17:47Show this Author Only
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tbh i dont actually thing why is that illegal, u have to work in ur own alts to be able to get some reward, plus most of ppl that has alts do that just to save time, not cuz they cant plunder other ppl, they will end getting the same * but way faster at this way.

Also, i dont really understand why ppl get salty when they see someone else taking their alt, i saw ppl with pretty low level / plundering without alts, i guess if it is just jealous, it has 0 sense

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On 2018-04-08 09:57:27Show this Author Only
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crab mentality + jelousy. you need serious help OP. That mindset is not healthy and you should have yourself checked with a psychiatrist.

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On 2018-04-08 13:31:01Show this Author Only
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  • Barrin On 2018-04-07 13:33:59
  • See my latest post in the Missbehavour thread. They just don't seem to care :)

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On 2018-04-09 06:27:02Show this Author Only
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Oh my god, my opponent spends time every day to get more scrolls / coupons. IT'S NOT FAIR ! I'm sure that your server will be merged when the time comes. And your "friend" cant stop it ..

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On 2018-04-09 17:37:22Show this Author Only
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@Billardo - This thing is illegal because it is the art of abusing alt accounts .. You can get as much as possible and buy something from the events without spending cash which is contradicting to the game's target, to earn cash .. If you can have all you want from saving up resources from doing that kind of way, then the game will not earn from you ..


@*erduper - Just to clarify things with you, Oasis doesn't support this kind of thing, actually, to be able to act to this kind of reports, one must submit complete evidence that is reliable enough to punish one person, but making this step must be handled with so much carefulness, since one act can result to hundreds effect. Think of it, if someone just made an effort to make a plausible evidence just to get ban one person but that person is not guilty of the accusations and the game banned him, what's gonna happen? .. Do you get it? .. As you said, "Tons of reports", means tons of time to take investigations ..


@yyyfss - Yes, its not fair. But if you only look into someone's earnings from what they're doing then you are not concern about the game but you are only concern for your own salty-ness-es . "oh he bought new ninja, dang he's cheater because he abuse alts". "oh he pulled super rare, he's cheater because he use alt in gnw", "oh oh oh lalala" .. Just think of it and compare it in real life, a hardworking person who works 2 to 3 kinds of job per day to earn more cash to achieve his goals and dreams, what he gets is what he deserves for his hardworking attitude and if you are affected with that, then your one big jealous ..


NOTE : I'm not protecting those who abuses alt/clone/dummy/bunshin account to earn more coupons or whatever in the game, i'm just stating facts that you must consider that is comparable in real life situations. Now, if you find my opinions and comments are insulting in your part then maybe you're guilty of something. I for myself seen a lot of people doing this stuff, but hey, it's their own way of gaining resources without using any real currency, they are not doing anything against me so why get pssed with them .. let them be, respect each others ways of life, mind your own business, if they are doing illegal that is inflicting chaos towards the whole community the you must report it, but if the only ones getting affected is your ego then its your fault ..

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On 2018-04-09 18:40:09Show this Author Only
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  • Waka_Man On 2018-04-09 17:37:22
  • @Billardo - This thing is illegal because it is the art of abusing alt accounts .. You can get as much as possible and buy something from the events without spending cash which is contradicting to the game's target, to earn cash .. If you can have all you want from saving up resources from doing that kind of way, then the game will not earn from you ..


    @*erduper - Just to clarify things with you, Oasis doesn't support this kind of thing, actually, to be able to act to this kind of reports, one must submit complete evidence that is reliable enough to punish one person, but making this step must be handled with so much carefulness, since one act can result to hundreds effect. Think of it, if someone just made an effort to make a plausible evidence just to get ban one person but that person is not guilty of the accusations and the game banned him, what's gonna happen? .. Do you get it? .. As you said, "Tons of reports", means tons of time to take investigations ..


    @yyyfss - Yes, its not fair. But if you only look into someone's earnings from what they're doing then you are not concern about the game but you are only concern for your own salty-ness-es . "oh he bought new ninja, dang he's cheater because he abuse alts". "oh he pulled super rare, he's cheater because he use alt in gnw", "oh oh oh lalala" .. Just think of it and compare it in real life, a hardworking person who works 2 to 3 kinds of job per day to earn more cash to achieve his goals and dreams, what he gets is what he deserves for his hardworking attitude and if you are affected with that, then your one big jealous ..


    NOTE : I'm not protecting those who abuses alt/clone/dummy/bunshin account to earn more coupons or whatever in the game, i'm just stating facts that you must consider that is comparable in real life situations. Now, if you find my opinions and comments are insulting in your part then maybe you're guilty of something. I for myself seen a lot of people doing this stuff, but hey, it's their own way of gaining resources without using any real currency, they are not doing anything against me so why get pssed with them .. let them be, respect each others ways of life, mind your own business, if they are doing illegal that is inflicting chaos towards the whole community the you must report it, but if the only ones getting affected is your ego then its your fault ..

I forgot to put a sign * sarcasm *.

I use alts, and I dont like when people who spend less time on this game than I, say that people like me dont play fair....

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On 2018-04-09 18:58:42Show this Author Only
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I just want to add that it's not illegal, lol. Simply against the rules. It's not you'll go to jail for plundering your own alt in Naruto Online haha. :D

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On 2018-04-10 02:16:06Show this Author Only
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There is a lot work to raise those alts to meat the requirements to plunder yourself. You whine about him abusing this. what if he just farming your SS missions that would be better? And i doubt this is illegal, there is no online game that bans you for using your alts for your own benefits. Piece.

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On 2018-04-10 05:57:04Show this Author Only
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  • newgate446@gmai On 2018-04-10 02:16:06
  • There is a lot work to raise those alts to meat the requirements to plunder yourself. You whine about him abusing this. what if he just farming your SS missions that would be better? And i doubt this is illegal, there is no online game that bans you for using your alts for your own benefits. Piece.

Yes, you are right with your first statement "there is a lot work to raise those atls to meat the requirements to plunder yourself" .. Since plundering must be inside the gap of 15 levels from the plunderer and the one who gets plundered, so the alt accounts should be played too .. But for the statement "there is no online game that bans you for using your alts for ....", i already seen some of online games that bans those who abuse this kind of stuffs, it's just like a bot problem, where the computer plays for you ..



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On 2018-04-10 15:12:12Show this Author Only
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I have filed many reports about this. oasis does not seem to do anything about it. despite there being old comments by mods saying it does brake the rules. meaning they get away with alt account abuse. and then use the ban hammer selectivity. use alts to give your self flowers? mods do nothing.

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On 2018-04-10 16:49:59Show this Author Only
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  • D2@1 On 2018-04-10 15:12:12
  • I have filed many reports about this. oasis does not seem to do anything about it. despite there being old comments by mods saying it does brake the rules. meaning they get away with alt account abuse. and then use the ban hammer selectivity. use alts to give your self flowers? mods do nothing.

Well if you are reporting someone using alts to give their mains flowers to get the title then your case is lighter than the ones who are using alts to gain coupons and other stuffs that is more essential in this game .. So more or less, your report will be left in the dark buried deep down in the thread ..

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On 2018-04-11 01:01:12Show this Author Only
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I personaly don't mind alt abuse for plundering , flowers , mission exchange , arena , aka the "innocent stuff"

But when you are on a heavy populated server and there are 10-12 groups on GNW prelim round on Wednesday...you can't possibly imagine how many ppl had alt for spying . My group fell victims to espionage at least 20 times during the past 14 months . But then i got promoted to battlemaster with the 4.0 update and i removed almost everyone from the whitelist . Guess what , 4-5 ppl from 20k to 40k power left immediately . They never admited their crime ofc when i openly confronted them . Needless to say that there are many whales that have active f2p alts to help their groups with GNW . Guess what happens when a group with 20 active ppl plays versus a grp with 25 ppl and 15 alts . They are practicaly swarming you , when if the fight was 20 vs 25 we could have a decent chance depending on mindgames during strategy . So YAY for alt usage but NAY for alt usage for spying and GNW participation , this should be BAN material (well it is but oasis needs 1000% concrete evidence but that is difficult)

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On 2018-04-11 12:28:23Show this Author Only
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  • Waka_Man On 2018-04-10 16:49:59
  • Well if you are reporting someone using alts to give their mains flowers to get the title then your case is lighter than the ones who are using alts to gain coupons and other stuffs that is more essential in this game .. So more or less, your report will be left in the dark buried deep down in the thread ..

Giving yourself flowers is far form innocent. when you have the title for being the most liked person on the sever. the person on our server was hated by everyone robbing the title from someone who should have been given the title.

plundering *t account is also BS as many don't have alt accounts to plunder. creating somthing that is unfair for the majority of players. the fact theses reports get left in the dark while myself and countless others have made threads about this really point out the majority of players are tired of this *. and what makes this aggravating is the most toxic and duchbags on the sever are always the ones doing it.

in short you have to do 1 of two things to counter this 1 plunder there alts before they can. this is hard but can be done. 2 plunder abuse your own account. as oasis seems to not do anything about it.

using accounts to spy on people is also a total * thing to do. and should be ban worthy. people should be able to hide there formation with out being spied on.




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On 2018-04-11 14:06:19Show this Author Only
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  • D2@1 On 2018-04-11 12:28:23
  • Giving yourself flowers is far form innocent. when you have the title for being the most liked person on the sever. the person on our server was hated by everyone robbing the title from someone who should have been given the title.

    plundering *t account is also BS as many don't have alt accounts to plunder. creating somthing that is unfair for the majority of players. the fact theses reports get left in the dark while myself and countless others have made threads about this really point out the majority of players are tired of this *. and what makes this aggravating is the most toxic and duchbags on the sever are always the ones doing it.

    in short you have to do 1 of two things to counter this 1 plunder there alts before they can. this is hard but can be done. 2 plunder abuse your own account. as oasis seems to not do anything about it.

    using accounts to spy on people is also a total * thing to do. and should be ban worthy. people should be able to hide there formation with out being spied on.

You forget, to actually report someone for plundering their alt your evidence MUST NOT BE EDITED IN ANY FORM. I seen a lot of reports that just have a chat box with no time stamp or anything actually needed to carry out the punishment.

Second, that evidence must clear that it is their alt. For example, them claiming it is their alt and that they do plunder their alt with the alt's name.

Just saying "Yeah I plunder my alt." isn't enough as it doesn't show who the alt is. So unless you have concrete proof. Oasis will do nothing.

Its the same with the plunder bot.

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On 2018-04-11 14:21:15Show this Author Only
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  • D2@1 On 2018-04-11 12:28:23
  • Giving yourself flowers is far form innocent. when you have the title for being the most liked person on the sever. the person on our server was hated by everyone robbing the title from someone who should have been given the title.

    plundering *t account is also BS as many don't have alt accounts to plunder. creating somthing that is unfair for the majority of players. the fact theses reports get left in the dark while myself and countless others have made threads about this really point out the majority of players are tired of this *. and what makes this aggravating is the most toxic and duchbags on the sever are always the ones doing it.

    in short you have to do 1 of two things to counter this 1 plunder there alts before they can. this is hard but can be done. 2 plunder abuse your own account. as oasis seems to not do anything about it.

    using accounts to spy on people is also a total * thing to do. and should be ban worthy. people should be able to hide there formation with out being spied on.

I didn't said that Giving Flowers to yourself is an innocent act but it's just so far from the plundering your own alts to gain coupons .. Titles won't do anything aside from having a fancy sign that you are popular and most friendly one in your server, it doesn't add anything in your stats or in you gameplay .. But on the other hand, plundering alts to acquire steady income of coupons is rather have more impact in the game, coupons can buy stuffs to power-up your main accounts, but some ninjas and etc .. if you weigh those two things, Giving Flowers will go high like piece of feathers while the Plunder Alts for Coupons will weigh more as it has more impact in the game ..

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On 2018-04-11 16:51:16Show this Author Only
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At the end of the day, people going to plunder their alts no matter what, hence why i stopped giving a * about being competitive, i even know of whales who use alts to spy/plunder...it's a joke even.

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On 2018-04-13 00:32:14Show this Author Only
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if people didn't plunder fake accounts on the servers without activity of that only have one group active in the server, the server would simply die cause without people having their alt to plunder, they just can't get coupons and evolve in the game... so yea if plundering alts becomes prohibited, we become dependable on other players to develop ourselves, and some people actually stop doing SS convoys afraid of getting plundered... Also plundering other ppl is almost equivalent of stealing, which isn't a great concept for a game to have, people who get plundered get legit mad at you for plundering them

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