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On 2018-04-03 03:15:23Show All Posts
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This post is completely tr@sh: http://naruto.oasgames.com/en/strategy/gamestrategy/who_attacks_1st_in_ninjutsu

Which unit goes first works like this:

For example: If your team looks like this

X-A-X

B-X-C

X-D-X

C is action 1, A is action 2, D is action 3, and B is action 4.

Let's say your opponent's team looks like this:

X-A-B

X-X-C

X-X-D

For him B is action 1, C is action 2, D is action 3, and A is action 4.

If you and your opponent both use mysteries that are EQUAL action, then we compare init. Looking at my example above, that would mean C & B, A & C, D & D, and B & A. If your C uses a PROMPT mystery, and your opponents B uses a PROMPT mystery, and your C has more init than their B, C will go before. Same thing if they are BOTH non-prompt. If one is PROMPT and the other is NOT, then the PROMPT will go first regardless of position and regardless of init. The 10k init thing only comes in if your action 1 unit C uses a prompt mystery and your opponent's action 2 unit C uses a prompt mystery, and their C has 10k more init then ur unit C, then they will go first. Hope this explains.




This post was last edited by vsai12 on 2018-04-03 03:32:41.
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On 2018-04-03 03:35:52Show All Posts
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  • Brandenlol On 2018-04-03 03:31:37
  • This. you could be 600kBP with over 40k initiative on your position 2, but every single person on your server with a position 1 prompt mystery will go before your position 2. That is how the game is meant to function. System errors and server delays could always mess with these outcomes, though.

If the pos 2 has 10k more init than your opponent's pos 1 and they both use prompt mystery, the pos 2 will go first. I have seen this in a video in CN.

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On 2018-04-03 03:47:15Show All Posts
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  • SSirus On 2018-04-03 03:41:18
  • Wow thanks! This helped a lot lol, I've been playing for over a year now and I've always thought of it the way the post I linked explained lol. My whole life has been a lie ;-;

    Also does anyone know why some team's standards go faster than mine or vice versa? (Is it init? Just want to make sure)

A standard attack is the same speed as a non-prompt mystery so standard vs standard = non-prompt vs non-prompt

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On 2018-04-03 04:01:22Show All Posts
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  • Brandenlol On 2018-04-03 03:53:34
  • Please link the video because this is not the case. Position 1 always has priority over position 2 in standards and prompt mystery. The only exception is game lag, but the the way I'm explaining would be for how the game is intended to work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpTnpUJbVs4 This is just one out of many. I've seen units on your own team at pos 2 that uses standard b4 pos 1.

Battle at 4:36, the LM was also obv on auto so it was not delay.




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On 2018-04-03 04:05:14Show All Posts
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  • Brandenlol On 2018-04-03 04:00:55
  • tobei init

prob becuz very few would actually have 10k more init than opps pos1 at pos 2

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