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On 2018-03-28 06:12:53Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Hey guys!


So this thread will be more of a "myth buster" nature, I got inspired because I hear a lot of people saying stuff like:

1. "Breakthrough Pills give amazing power"

2. "The more you use you bigger bonus/more power"

3. "Breakthrough Pills can fail to upgrade"



And the problem is people actually believe that and then they are disappointed when they realize that it's not like that in reality.


What's a Breakthrough Pill?

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It's a pill that's used to improve 1% of purify stats for a single equipment , so it will give stats as much as 1% of that refine which is 6 initiative/ critical / injury / combo / control if you use it on a level 10 refine.

The max is 20 pills for 1 piece of equipment.



1. "Breakthrough Pills give amazing power"


This rumor most likely came from the fact that it's so hard to obtain breakthrough pills currently, and of course it's not true.

1 Breakthrough Pill will give you as much as 7-15 power depending on what level refine you use it on.



2. "The more you use you bigger bonus/more power"


So there is no real point of stacking more pills into 1 equipment, the bonus is always same which is 1% per pill.

There is no increase, each pill will always give you same stats.



3. "Breakthrough Pills can fail to upgrade"


It does say "Upgrade successful" when you use a pill but it can not fail rest assured.




That was all, hope you guys found this thread interesting and helpful!

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On 2018-03-28 16:18:42Show this Author Only
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So you're saying it's better/just as good to have 1% on 10 different pieces than it would be to have 10% on your highest refine/purification?

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On 2018-03-28 17:03:45Show this Author Only
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On the "2nd" one, I think it is more like, you'll see a bigger power increase if you multiple at the same time even if it is only like 15 power for 1 pill it'll be perceived as giving a lot of power.

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On 2018-03-29 02:17:57Show this Author Only
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  • Brandenlol On 2018-03-28 16:18:42
  • So you're saying it's better/just as good to have 1% on 10 different pieces than it would be to have 10% on your highest refine/purification?

No, I would recommend using pills only on your pos1 ninja equipment


I was saying it doesn't matter if you put 1% of all 5 of those equip or 5% in just 1 (of course if they are same refine level)

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On 2018-03-29 02:18:56Show this Author Only
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  • Rom Reckt On 2018-03-28 17:03:45
  • On the "2nd" one, I think it is more like, you'll see a bigger power increase if you multiple at the same time even if it is only like 15 power for 1 pill it'll be perceived as giving a lot of power.

20*15 = 300 power, you know how hard it is to get 20 pills right ?

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On 2018-03-29 03:15:33Show this Author Only
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  • ICExx On 2018-03-29 02:18:56
  • 20*15 = 300 power, you know how hard it is to get 20 pills right ?

I know the math :P

I'm just saying when using them all at once it feels like it is more power than what it really gives.

Although I think the point of the pills is just to increase your initiative for the most part and have an edge over those who can't get the pills cause they are in dumb events with insane requirements.

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On 2018-03-29 07:15:46Show this Author Only
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It’s pretty much for the really powerful players who don’t have many better ways to obtain initiative/crit/injury

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On 2018-04-05 21:37:12Show this Author Only
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This post was last edited by UchihaItachy on 2018-04-05 21:45:30.
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On 2018-04-06 07:41:23Show this Author Only
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This thread is BS true it only gives 1% power but after using 500-1000 of them you can how amazing that power can be.

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On 2018-04-06 10:04:38Show this Author Only
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  • pooperduper On 2018-04-06 07:41:23
  • This thread is BS true it only gives 1% power but after using 500-1000 of them you can how amazing that power can be.

That's not entirely correct.

yes it gives little BP, but the effect of high % purified attributes can come in very handy.

I have 97% initiative purify on my blade pos 1. To get +90% is already rare and difficult. Extra 3 pills I can make my pos 1 initiative 100% effective.

100% effectiveness can apply through control and critical. That's why you might see sometimes your enemy failed to control one of your unit.

Don't judge pills on little extra BP, but look it through its effectiveness that would come to play in the game.

BP doens't always mean everything.


I don't know if you play LoL. For example when adc builds 100% crit, it's guarantee double of damage output.

However that would be deducted by other factors such as def and injury in this game.


Therefore when you do your refine rebate. Hold on to your pills and use it on your best purify. It's hard to obtain for us who don't spend cash in this game.




This post was last edited by Broken Screen on 2018-04-06 10:09:44.
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On 2018-04-06 10:28:15Show this Author Only
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  • Broken Screen On 2018-04-06 10:04:38
  • That's not entirely correct.

    yes it gives little BP, but the effect of high % purified attributes can come in very handy.

    I have 97% initiative purify on my blade pos 1. To get +90% is already rare and difficult. Extra 3 pills I can make my pos 1 initiative 100% effective.

    100% effectiveness can apply through control and critical. That's why you might see sometimes your enemy failed to control one of your unit.

    Don't judge pills on little extra BP, but look it through its effectiveness that would come to play in the game.

    BP doens't always mean everything.


    I don't know if you play LoL. For example when adc builds 100% crit, it's guarantee double of damage output.

    However that would be deducted by other factors such as def and injury in this game.


    Therefore when you do your refine rebate. Hold on to your pills and use it on your best purify. It's hard to obtain for us who don't spend cash in this game.

I think you're misunderstanding what the 100% is representing. To illustrate, consider an equipment that is at level 10 refines. Then in each of the 5 secondary stats (initiative, critical, injury, control, and combo) it is giving +665 to that stat. If we move over the purify section (where the pills act), a 100% on one of those means an additional +665 to that stat (so for example an 80% would be an additional +0.8*665=532 instead). This is NOT correlate to a 100% critical chance for example, that is still computed by comparing to your opponents critical stat. So a breakthrough pill on an l10 equip (which is hard enough to get by the way) only corresponds to a +1% on those 665, or roughly 6.6 (don't how the game decides to handle the decimals) per each of the secondary stats, which is just pitiful comparing the cost the pills are generally at. This is why people find them underwhelming.

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On 2018-04-06 13:46:13Show this Author Only
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  • Broken Screen On 2018-04-06 10:04:38
  • That's not entirely correct.

    yes it gives little BP, but the effect of high % purified attributes can come in very handy.

    I have 97% initiative purify on my blade pos 1. To get +90% is already rare and difficult. Extra 3 pills I can make my pos 1 initiative 100% effective.

    100% effectiveness can apply through control and critical. That's why you might see sometimes your enemy failed to control one of your unit.

    Don't judge pills on little extra BP, but look it through its effectiveness that would come to play in the game.

    BP doens't always mean everything.


    I don't know if you play LoL. For example when adc builds 100% crit, it's guarantee double of damage output.

    However that would be deducted by other factors such as def and injury in this game.


    Therefore when you do your refine rebate. Hold on to your pills and use it on your best purify. It's hard to obtain for us who don't spend cash in this game.

It's like in every event each week. right now you can get one in myokubo trile or any rechage event.

you only 1+ on INT to be faster then any other player around the same level or refine runes. 101% crit is meaning less the only stats that it matters on is injury (given injury don't make sense on what is does.) or control because having 101% will hopefulty be enough to stop getting the control failed message.

5 BP x 500 is like 2000k of power.

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On 2018-04-06 23:15:55Show this Author Only
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  • pooperduper On 2018-04-06 07:41:23
  • This thread is BS true it only gives 1% power but after using 500-1000 of them you can how amazing that power can be.

500 - 1000? Are you serious ? The cap is 20 pills per equipment lol .

I tell you once again go learn the game and after express your bll* in forums.

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