Ninja tools in TI give out random stats while treasure tools has fixed stats. The tools you see in treasure are different from TI. Just because they look the same, it doesn't mean they are the same. Pay attention when you get ninja tools as it will give random stats.

I m talking about basic stats. Read carefully and not between lines and maybe You ll figure what i m saying.

one simple example : 2 different ninja tools can t provide same basic stats. Let s take per example Senju Secret Scroll and Red Gourd... And take others in consideration too... What You observe wouldn t be strange?

So in conclusion the gourd spot from TI function should provide DEFENSE and NINJUTSU as basic stats.

Probably didn't really care to read to your post since since this is trivial. The gourd tool has been out for quite sometime ever since brothers ti was introduced. I'm sure by now someone who really cares about that stats would have pointed out that the scroll and the gourd both share the same stats. Also, don't jump to assume that it's a bug either just because you compared it with a different system that so happens to have the same tools.

It seems obvious to me that' s a bug or at least ''visual" one. Comparing all ninja tools this occured to my eyes. Indeed no one gave importance to it until now but it doesn t necessarily means that there is no bug in there.

No Pic? No Screenshot?

For what? Just go on Ti interface and see by yourself :P

amber bottle too have ninjutsu and resistance, all the 'gourds' have them.

Yes. All 'gourds' have wrong basic stats but as Red Gourd is most valuable i think the title will bring much more interest like this.

May i ask something, i don't mean to be rude but .. How come you are so much convinced that the Gourds is bugged and have wrong basic stats? .. Don't you think that, the game made it that way from the start .. Since you have the eagerness to tackle this issue then please do a research about the tools so that other people will know it too, all Tools have its own Basic Stats Combination, and it is possible that 1 Combination can be used in 2 types of Tools since, we have 10 tools and 5 Basic Stats .. Can you make a chart of possible combination of the Basic Stats? or a clear presentation that what you said is really true that the Red Gourd or the Gourds are bugged back-upped by a statement from the game developers and administrators ..

If You Play in China They had Same Basic Attribute of tools you said .

it's not a bug but it meant to be .

If that s so is weird because 'scrolls' and 'gourds' have the same basic attributes which somehow unbalance the stability of this system. To explain further if You watch carefully at each tool slot you will notice 4 x life , 4 x attack , 3 x defense , 4 x ninjutsu and 5 x resistance as overall basic stats covered by all slots as number. That s why it seems ilogical and unbalanced somehow to me. Furthermore 2 different tools .... 'scrols' and 'gourds' having same stats made my su*ions even sharper. Have you ever seen ever two cars with exactly same proprietes and diferent names? And if in China pigs are flying that doesn t necessarily means that in UK should be like same. And if it is intended so well I still think is a mistake .

Before 4.0 gourd had def and res like ninjas like hiruzen boosted defense. After 4.0 they reduced the effect of defense and increased the value of resistance because the game and the new ninjas are more ninjutsu oriented.

Ok. This explains a lot.

Actually, yes .. Toyota 86 and Subaru BRZ has almost the same specs and the exterior build .. And you must also remember that the original owner of this game is China and the English Servers are only franchise of it so it is possible that what China have also English Servers have .. There is nothing wrong or bugged or mistake in this game if the Developers really meant that way .. Except, if you are the owner of this whole game and you run the development team, and your original plan is not what it is implemented now ..

Hey

It's intended to be those stats.

Thank you.