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On 2018-02-27 05:44:20Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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have there ever been anything from oasis as to why we have so many missing ninjas in the game? ninjas like Sasuke when he fought itachi has artwork in the game and the kiren animation shows him in the itachi fight uniform not his orochimaru fight.we also have the sasuke who fought garra in the game with a full move set and yet he is not obtaiable. same goes with cruse mark sasuke gaara at the exams skukaku gaara. and many other ninjas you can fight but for some reason can't be used?

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On 2018-02-27 10:00:39Show this Author Only
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Oh, it's on.


Why do we need half a million Sasukes? We don't. I see no reason to add yet another Sasuke and prioritize him over other characters.


Want a more expanded list of characters who have enough sprite resources to be put into this game as playable, but aren't? Okay. See how many you can recognize.


Zori. Waraji.


Kotetsu Hagane. Hayate Gekko. Yugao Uzuki. Raido Namiashi, kind of. Ebisu. Shippuden Konohamaru. Rin Nohara. Mizuki. Hanabi Hyuga. Chunin Jacket Shikamaru.


Shigure. Midare and Baiu. Shiore. Shiore's unnamed teammate. Oboro. Mubi. Not Kagari for some weird reason.


Dosu. Kin.


Heck, even Filler Arc Mizuki has sprite resources and could be added.



The devs SHOULD have resources for all of these characters, even if not all of them appear in game. If they wanted to, they could add all of these. I mean, I AM appreciative that they have characters like Fu and Torune – that's something really special imo – but I feel like they need to step up their game just a bit. They've already programmed like a hundred characters in already, so it shouldn't be difficult to add more?



*sigh* Okay.



Sorry about the rant. It always triggers me when I see multiple versions of other characters, besides the basic forms, being prioritized over characters who still need to be added. It's a pet peeve of mine in this game, along with other games like FEH and UNB. Hopefully this is more informative than rageful?




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On 2018-02-27 10:42:38Show this Author Only
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Hi! That is actually a good question. The thing is we are able to send your feedback about ninjas, however, the ninjas that are published and its final decision will lie in the creators of Naruto and the ones who own the copyright to it. As someone who plays the game, we definitely understand the feeling of seeing new ninjas. Seeing and getting them is awesome lol then putting them on (transforming into them) is fun, especially when you start making a trend and everyone starts doing it.


The honest answer is, the final decision on which ninja gets created or released falls to the people who own the copyright to the characters. We can definitely send your feedback on what would be good to put in, as we can influence that decision with our feedback.


Hope that kind of explains some things about it.


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On 2018-02-27 12:09:04Show this Author Only
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  • Jiburiru On 2018-02-27 10:42:38
  • Hi! That is actually a good question. The thing is we are able to send your feedback about ninjas, however, the ninjas that are published and its final decision will lie in the creators of Naruto and the ones who own the copyright to it. As someone who plays the game, we definitely understand the feeling of seeing new ninjas. Seeing and getting them is awesome lol then putting them on (transforming into them) is fun, especially when you start making a trend and everyone starts doing it.


    The honest answer is, the final decision on which ninja gets created or released falls to the people who own the copyright to the characters. We can definitely send your feedback on what would be good to put in, as we can influence that decision with our feedback.


    Hope that kind of explains some things about it.


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Interesting. I actually didn't think about that.


However, this does spark another question. If I recall correctly, the game did have a copyright issue in which they had to plan on reskinning PB! Sasuke, Sailor Sakura, and a few other characters I can't remember off the top of my head right now.


This makes me believe that the issue is with the Naruto movies and spinoffs rather than the canon. Is this actually the case?


Second question. Some of the ninjas that OP and myself referred to, such as the pre-Shippuden Sasuke during his fight with Gaara (the Chidori one) and Team Dosu of course, already appear in the game as enemies. Do the devs still need permission to make them playable if they're already in the game like this? In my rational mind this doesn't make sense; why would you be freely allowed to put in a character in as a non player character or enemy, but need the copyright holders' permission to add them as a playable character? I feel like the devs would already have permission to use at least some of the characters that they have already used in the game without asking for permission.


Is this true? Am I completely mistaken? Am I just misunderstanding the game industry? Is this sensitive material? I don't know... I don't know...


There are many things I don't know... (I'm vaguely paraphrasing a Dosu quote btw :3)




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On 2018-02-27 12:36:13Show this Author Only
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  • Dosu On 2018-02-27 12:09:04
  • Interesting. I actually didn't think about that.


    However, this does spark another question. If I recall correctly, the game did have a copyright issue in which they had to plan on reskinning PB! Sasuke, Sailor Sakura, and a few other characters I can't remember off the top of my head right now.


    This makes me believe that the issue is with the Naruto movies and spinoffs rather than the canon. Is this actually the case?


    Second question. Some of the ninjas that OP and myself referred to, such as the pre-Shippuden Sasuke during his fight with Gaara (the Chidori one) and Team Dosu of course, already appear in the game as enemies. Do the devs still need permission to make them playable if they're already in the game like this? In my rational mind this doesn't make sense; why would you be freely allowed to put in a character in as a non player character or enemy, but need the copyright holders' permission to add them as a playable character? I feel like the devs would already have permission to use at least some of the characters that they have already used in the game without asking for permission.


    Is this true? Am I completely mistaken? Am I just misunderstanding the game industry? Is this sensitive material? I don't know... I don't know...


    There are many things I don't know... (I'm vaguely paraphrasing a Dosu quote btw :3)

In terms of licensing, naruto tv series (which includes canon and non-canon épisodes) and naruto movie titles are two different things. Tencent can have material much longer than the other. Most likely, Tencent did not want to renew their contract with Bandai Namco for the Road to Ninja movie, which is why they had to change the designs and use designs from the tv series.

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On 2018-02-27 15:16:06Show this Author Only
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I can understand why the license for PB sasuke got removeed as it was from a movie instead of the main series, but what about sailor sakura? She was never in a movie and afaik she was a dlc charcter for the storm series

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On 2018-02-27 18:27:48Show this Author Only
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If I'm not mistaken when we are able to mutate the mysteries sasuke gets the chidori mystery.

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On 2018-02-27 18:34:35Show this Author Only
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Currently missing versions of canonical ninjas, over the ones dosu said, are: kabuto sage mode, sakura sage mode, karin and suigetsu from when they join ninja war together with orochimaru, itachi edo tensei, bee linked to eight tails mode, obito six paths.


I want my pajama karin that heals by selfdamaging :-(





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On 2018-02-27 19:14:22Show this Author Only
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  • lightmagic354 On 2018-02-27 15:16:06
  • I can understand why the license for PB sasuke got removeed as it was from a movie instead of the main series, but what about sailor sakura? She was never in a movie and afaik she was a dlc charcter for the storm series

Sailor Sakura was actually from the Naruto Collectible Card Game. Which was actually a "Student" outfit if I recall was also owned by Bandai. (I should say Published)

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On 2018-02-27 19:32:58Show this Author Only
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Shippuden Konohamaru is an existed playable ninja and 100% will be add to the game soon.

If you want to add Black Coat Sasuke, better to make him 3 star normal sasuke. So it will be : Sasuke 1 stars => Sasuke Black Suit 2 stars => Sasuke Cursed Mark 3 stars => Sasuke Shippuden 4 stars.

And more like Bandai don't want to sign another contact with Tencent, not the other way around. Or maybe they already signed and already in making of the naruto online 2 lol. Who know.


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On 2018-02-28 10:13:41Show this Author Only
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  • ZWen On 2018-02-27 19:32:58
  • Shippuden Konohamaru is an existed playable ninja and 100% will be add to the game soon.

    If you want to add Black Coat Sasuke, better to make him 3 star normal sasuke. So it will be : Sasuke 1 stars => Sasuke Black Suit 2 stars => Sasuke Cursed Mark 3 stars => Sasuke Shippuden 4 stars.

    And more like Bandai don't want to sign another contact with Tencent, not the other way around. Or maybe they already signed and already in making of the naruto online 2 lol. Who know.


Yes? why would that be so hard?

So we have curse mark sasuke in the 2 star place and black bandage sasuke is not playable then we have the start of shipuden sasuke with the itiachi fight gray coutume but the gray coustim is not even in the game.

then we don't even have curse mark adult saskue. plus all the other ninjas the one guy said.


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  • D2@1 On 2018-02-28 10:13:41
  • Yes? why would that be so hard?

    So we have curse mark sasuke in the 2 star place and black bandage sasuke is not playable then we have the start of shipuden sasuke with the itiachi fight gray coutume but the gray coustim is not even in the game.

    then we don't even have curse mark adult saskue. plus all the other ninjas the one guy said.


If anything, I'd say CM2 Sasuke should be 3* while Chidori Sasuke should be 2*s.

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2 thoughts:

1) I totally agree that more unique ninja should be added, since there really are dozens (maybe hundreds) of them in the franchise that aren't here yet--most of them kinda terrible in combat, but a welcome and fun addition all the same (and a Naruto game that's labelled OFFICIAL should have access to every Naruto character that's ever been in any licensed media--game, manga, movies, etc)--and besides, by only adding stronger and stronger ninja from the series and you eventually hit a wall: a ninja with 2 million base initiaitive, an immunity to debuffs and to immunity suppression with a 0 chakra mystery that's a guaranteed hit and has no battlefield cooldown that kills every ninja in the field without the possibility of reviving.

But I get that Oasis isn't the only company involved. A lot of what you do is translate existing content to suit the language and playing styles of western countries.
So, I was wondering, if we have a suggestion that goes beyond what Oasis can implement, like replacing core game mechanics or changing its engine, to whom and how would we make that suggestion?


2) I like the idea of additional versions, but having them being separate ninja seems incredibly tedious, and somewhat confusing in the long run. Right now, if you have 100+ ninja, scrolling through all the different versions can be a headache. However, conversely, the ninja upgrade system is also so basic that it's often very ungratifying when a ninja's stars go up, only to offer a 5% stat increase. So I propose this: merge the two.


You've already done this with several characters--giving them a different appearance and changing a skill slightly after an upgrade (eg, gaara, kushina, naruto, kimimaru). I think it should be taken further though. With a few rare exceptions, the story in the anime/manga has a very linear progression, as does its character development, so I think you can safely have a different star represent a very different version (when applicable for that character). For example, 3 star Sasuke could be susano'o, 4 star could be the one from the end of the series, 5 star could be the one from Boruto


("yeah, but I spent months pulling in the treasure to get susano'o Sasuke, how's that fair that others get him free"). I hate to say it, but the reality is, with any substantial change comes substantial sacrifice. Before a new building is constructed, what was there before must be cleared away. Perhaps the upgrade system can be changed to have more stars, or get them by some way other than ninja fragments?


Further, in the Transform section, you already implemented the ability to transform the main's appearance to reflect a lower-star version of a ninja. So, I imagine, if there are those that prefer using a earlier version of a ninja in their lineup, that that same feature could be slightly modified to work here too.




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It makes zero sence why there is new years Kiba but not cruse mark 2 shippuden sasuke. and when 2 star part 1 sasuke is better then the 3 star sasuke we have now I see no real reason why we can't use the older version.

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On 2018-03-01 06:50:59Show this Author Only
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  • Dosu On 2018-02-27 10:00:39
  • Oh, it's on.


    Why do we need half a million Sasukes? We don't. I see no reason to add yet another Sasuke and prioritize him over other characters.


    Want a more expanded list of characters who have enough sprite resources to be put into this game as playable, but aren't? Okay. See how many you can recognize.


    Zori. Waraji.


    Kotetsu Hagane. Hayate Gekko. Yugao Uzuki. Raido Namiashi, kind of. Ebisu. Shippuden Konohamaru. Rin Nohara. Mizuki. Hanabi Hyuga. Chunin Jacket Shikamaru.


    Shigure. Midare and Baiu. Shiore. Shiore's unnamed teammate. Oboro. Mubi. Not Kagari for some weird reason.


    Dosu. Kin.


    Heck, even Filler Arc Mizuki has sprite resources and could be added.



    The devs SHOULD have resources for all of these characters, even if not all of them appear in game. If they wanted to, they could add all of these. I mean, I AM appreciative that they have characters like Fu and Torune – that's something really special imo – but I feel like they need to step up their game just a bit. They've already programmed like a hundred characters in already, so it shouldn't be difficult to add more?



    *sigh* Okay.



    Sorry about the rant. It always triggers me when I see multiple versions of other characters, besides the basic forms, being prioritized over characters who still need to be added. It's a pet peeve of mine in this game, along with other games like FEH and UNB. Hopefully this is more informative than rageful?

It's not half a million sasukes it's like the ninja storm games. and they should add the ninjas you have listed and they should have full kits and one or two of them should be random hits some teams to keep things interesting.

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I'm honestly triggered some ninjas are only 2 star. Like why do Yugito Nii and Guy [Gate of Joy] like that? The people I want, probably the most, are Dosu and his squad, and the Sound 4's cursemark forms. I have all of them 3 star, and it would be awesome to see that. And, where did Playboy Sasuke go? I checked the ninja interface, and haven't seen him many places.


Jib Edit: Please no swearing on the forum xD Thanks for understanding




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  • ĦєяσZεη On 2018-03-01 08:09:52
  • I'm honestly triggered some ninjas are only 2 star. Like why do Yugito Nii and Guy [Gate of Joy] like that? The people I want, probably the most, are Dosu and his squad, and the Sound 4's cursemark forms. I have all of them 3 star, and it would be awesome to see that. And, where did Playboy Sasuke go? I checked the ninja interface, and haven't seen him many places.


    Jib Edit: Please no swearing on the forum xD Thanks for understanding

Suggestions for the Sound 4's Curse Seal forms and Team Dosu were put up long, long ago, back when the game was young. I haven't seen much happen since unfortunately.



PB! Sasuke's one of the few characters who won't show up in your Ninja interface unless you have fragments of him.

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On 2018-03-01 10:14:32Show this Author Only
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  • Dosu On 2018-03-01 09:08:12
  • Suggestions for the Sound 4's Curse Seal forms and Team Dosu were put up long, long ago, back when the game was young. I haven't seen much happen since unfortunately.



    PB! Sasuke's one of the few characters who won't show up in your Ninja interface unless you have fragments of him.

Oh dope. What about the other few ninjas who don't show up? And like wtf team Dosu, they already have sprites and animations made for them, why not? lol

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  • ĦєяσZεη On 2018-03-01 10:14:32
  • Oh dope. What about the other few ninjas who don't show up? And like wtf team Dosu, they already have sprites and animations made for them, why not? lol

Team Dosu isn't playable unfortunately. I've been pushing for them to be added for... like a year now. I even wrote this argument...


The only other characters that come to mind that are playable, but don't show up on the list unless you have fragments of them are Makeout Paradise Kakashi and Shikamaru, I think, and maybe Sailor Sakura too? I can't remember...




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  • Dosu On 2018-03-01 11:32:19
  • Team Dosu isn't playable unfortunately. I've been pushing for them to be added for... like a year now. I even wrote this argument...


    The only other characters that come to mind that are playable, but don't show up on the list unless you have fragments of them are Makeout Paradise Kakashi and Shikamaru, I think, and maybe Sailor Sakura too? I can't remember...

They should be in the game. also good read. but I do think that Sasuke is a bit more important then Dosu.

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