A big thing is that Shisui can be bought with coupons. Never claimed that winning him in an RNG event made him F2P. I think the big thing is that a bunh of F2P players, told me to run Shisui. I wasn't originally going to run Shisui at all. But they explained it to me and I will side with them. Now saving 15k coupons isn't realistic for a F2P player? Why is it not realistic? Because it takes time? Because players * through their coupons like candy? I don't know the answer. But I can tell you that Dripsha saved 1k seal scrolls over the course of 6 months and pulled for a super rare in GNW. So I disagree that it can't be done. Because it can. Most players get impulsive and spend their coupons. Still doesn't change the fact that Shisui was obtainable with coupons, and is on many F2P players lineups. As always I respect your opinion my friend:) And I understand where you are coming from. But alas I will still disagree. You can save 15k coupons. But only if you really intend to.
F2P,P2W, these are terms that are very black and white. This community really needs to redefine what ninjas are classified as.
There are multiple levels of F2P, just as there are P2W.
The system I use for ranking is Treasure Ranking.
You could just as easily say for instances, Shisui costs around 16k so he would be under Super Rare(Super Rare costing between 10k-18k for event ninja)
You could post "SWB With only one Super Rare(Shisui)". , or better of just "SWB With Shisui + Common Ninja".
Good work on the video otherwise, keep up it up :)
EDIT: I would also like to say an event ninja to be defined as "F2P" would need to be out long enough for a "F2P" player to save up from scratch and buy. E.g some say F2P can get 3-4k coupons a month(from some thread a while ago) So before you could even say Shisui as a F2P ninja he should at least be out for 4 months - 16k coupons divided by 4k coupons a month. Even this wouldn't apply to major of the F2P population(which your video is aimed at stating the term F2P in this community).
As you can guess I hate this terminology as its so one-sided, and would love something more broad to be used. Besides that fact consider this as *ternative.
It's hard to define these ninjas because it's the mindset of the players that create different definitions. I always see events ninjas are typically p2w if you want the ninja instantly when they first appear in the server. Either the use of whale money/ignots or stockpile of coupons are ways to get it instant. Stockpile of coupons either requires players to, like you said, hold off on spending coupons but should require researching about future ninjas. There were a several f2ps that knew masked man and jonin minato were coming so they stockpiled.
After a given time of when the ninjas was introduced, how long it takes to stockpile and how much the ninja appears in events, then the event ninja can be available to all players should they put in the effort to get the ninja. I responded to a post about two months that ever since their appearance in the server, players can get at most, almost 40 frags. I got players responding that they didn't get at least one frag within the 3-4 month time-frame. If they put in the effort to piece them or chose power items instead of ninja frags, then disclose that information instead of trying to discredit the opportunities of getting free frags. One respondent even refused as to how it was possible and remained adamant on their views so it's up the player how they think.
The rare case is when event ninjas appear in RNG events. If a ninja was pulled for less than the lowest amount of an event ninja (3k typically) but the price of the ninja requires several months of saving, you cannot view that ninja as a f2p as you will mess up the definition as what event ninjas are, which is sad since I've seen several people on here define RNG ninjas like that. For example, Shisui. When he was first available, you could get him via RNG or by fragments. SInce his fragments was able for purchase, this means you know how much his full price and how long it should take to save.
We need a strong form of definitions for ninjas, the one where we have for treasures in there 60/30 seal scroll ninjas being regarded as "Rares". This definition is great and everyone uses it. It just needs to be move over to the event type of ninjas. That is why I made that page to try and get people away from these "P2W" or "F2P" ninjas as it comes with not only its own toxicity but confusion.
You need to also consider that large portion of new players are "F2P" and may not spend. These people may even take longer to acquire these "P2W" Ninja.
You raise some great points , thank you for your response :)
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