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On 2018-01-16 14:37:49Show All Posts
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The videos themselves aren't bad, but I would agree that the music should probably be left out in favor of the original game sounds, or maybe even commentary, if you're up for it. However, as has been already said, the videos you have up currently do not help F2P players, as you stated one of your aims was. Masked Man is a ninja that F2P can acquire after a while of playing and/or saving coupons, but in that same lineup, you used Itachi and Shisui. Very, very few F2P have these ninjas. So far, in 3 videos, you haven't helped F2P at all.

That being said, I know you just started, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and believe that you just uploaded these to get your channel going, and are planning to stay true to one of your goals, which is helping F2P. It'll be difficult though, seeing as your power is not what a typical F2P's power would look like. And I know your only goal isn't to help F2P. You did say one goal was to show ninja exam strategies, which you did show one, so that's good (even if it's a strategy that most players cannot use, but you basically stated this when you called it "P2W style", which is good).

In the future, if you decide it's too difficult to help F2P, then it's ok not to help (as long as you say so). Not helping F2P is fine (as bad it sounds), but claiming to help them yet not doing so, is not fine. But again, you just started, so I'll have faith.


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On 2018-01-17 09:46:00Show All Posts
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  • ThunderCat. On 2018-01-17 08:40:16
  • i consider shisui as a f2p ninja..many ppl got him through the wheel by using 1k or less coupons

I see your logic, but I completely disagree. I consider F2P ninjas to be ninjas that are reliably obtainable by a reasonable amount of coupons, or no coupons at all. Not reliant on luck, and not a price like 16k. Maybe in the future, yes, but not now, when there has only been a single 100% chance of getting him (Trees event is luck, so not 100%), and again, that was for 16k, an amount that almost no F2P had at the time. And the people that did not get him far outnumber the amount that got him, no question.

In my server, Kage Minato has only appeared once (as far as I remember), in Lucky Stars wheel. And that was very close to the beginning of the server, so if he was a redeemable (I don't remember if he was or not), F2P had no chance of getting enough coupons for that. But there were many people that got him with 1k or less coupons. By your logic, Kage Minato is also a F2P ninja.

You're not wrong that these people got these ninjas basically for free, but it's extremely misleading to label them as "F2P", as it's reliant entirely on luck, with only very few exceptions. When people search for "F2P lineup" or "Ninja exam X F2P", they're not normally looking for Kage Minato and Shisui lineups, because most people don't have them. They're looking for lineups that use ninjas that are relatively easy to get (I would consider MM and JM the cutoff of what a F2P can get at this stage of the game without relying on luck, but even that's stretching it, as no F2P on younger servers will have them, unless they focused entirely on them and neglected power). There are exceptions, like F2P players that had enough coupons at the time to redeem Shisui, but those are just that, exceptions. I know I'd be a bit disappointed to see a Shisui or Kage minato in a supposedly F2P video guide.

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On 2018-01-18 01:09:32Show All Posts
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  • ThunderCat. On 2018-01-17 09:23:52
  • im just saying what really happenned and i didnt encourage anyone to do nothing.I know ppl who got shisui by using 400 coupons the first day..i also know ppl who spent 10k or more in order to get him.Dont say words i never said

So you consider Shisui a F2P ninja, despite knowing that whether you spend 400 or 16000 coupons for him is very heavily luck-based? I'm sorry but I fail to understand that.

And no, you're not only "saying what really happened", you're also challenging the already widely-accepted definition of F2P ninja, with your own definition.




This post was last edited by AyiriHino on 2018-01-18 02:36:20.
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On 2018-01-18 01:12:36Show All Posts
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  • Michgefragt On 2018-01-17 20:46:43
  • I agree with you. I talked to many of my clan mates (most of whom are f2p) and they all have agreed, that as powerful as he is, he can be considered f2p. Mostly by sheer volume of plyers who have acquired him.

If you take sheer volume of players into account, then why are you ignoring the sheer volume of players that didn't get him? I assure you, the amount of players who didn't get him is much, much higher than the amount of those who did. It's not even close.

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