yeah..he is sort of squishy in arena with base stats. He takes damage with ninjutsu pretty decently although having a scaling defence. Lightning blitz, mabui-tenten teams c*most kill him in one round if he receives a combo. Thats why they run him with healers or leech in arena, even gakido or kurenai could help to survive first round onslaught. Once he is buffed up he is as good in arena as normal PvP.

It's because nothing counts other than initiative and x-buffs.

150% buffs you c*most kill anyone round 1.

You also receive a small % of stats added onto arena...at least that is what mods said.

I have that feelings too. But I dont know what those stats are.

Arena used to add 10% of your real stats. That was removed back when 2.0 went live in janurary last year. Arena no longer use any stat other than initiative.

Roshi is extremely squishy in arena due to the way damage formula scales, as well as lack of (hp) mood. The amount of damage ninjas deal and receive (as a percentage of their total hp) are so different in arena, when compared to two players at 100k power each, that arena might as well be a completely different game.

Is mood applied in arena?

Mood is not applied in arena, all ninjas are 0% mood. Ninjas that heavily rely on mood for survival suffers extra in arena.

Roshi is not a tank, but many here (not iamascrub) continue to think he is just because he stacks defense. Roshi in arena needs to be exposed to damage but not to the highest part of it. Works well with han or hokage minato or with bee sst that shields him or behind clones. Hardly even kimimaro, that's a real tank, survives if fully exposed to damage with no shields or defense buffs.

I hate how the options for using Kimimaro necessitates Kabuto's presence. I really wish they modify the water main's passive to do a "little" dmg to all units in the team instead so the water main should be enough to make full use of Kmi's passive.

Roshi is a tank. He isn't an immediate tank, but he is a tank. However, only his Defense and Ninjutsu scales. So he'll always be weak to pure ninjutsu damage.

Growth at 3 Star

Life: 1848
Attack: 1219
Defense: 1052
Ninjutsu: 1587
Resistance: 1052

Compared to Gaara (Kazekage) I would do normal, however star level does increase growth stats as it isn't a fair comparison. Gaara in General has a HUGE HP growth stat and c*so make shields while preventing to let opponent combo unless it is high hit combo.

Life: 2928
Attack: 565
Defense: 1090
Ninjutsu: 1184
Resistance: 1377

The only difference between is the Huge Growth Stat difference, however Roshi makes up for it in his scaling of Defense. I would compare to Kimimaro, however I don't have a 3 star Kimimaro only 5 star. But for sake of argument however 3 star kimimaro has about 200 growth stat difference than 5 star.

Life: 2355
Attack: 1437
Defense: 1618
Ninjutsu: 536
Resistance: 1060

So yes Roshi is a tank.

Roshi cannot tank in arena, at all. He can flat out die to mabui 1010 teams or mb blitz teams on round 1, AFTER han removes enemy buffs. At 100k pow, outside arena, that roshi will survive with half of his hp left after han's buff removal. Roshi simply never get to stack up in arena, unless your opponent is also running a very passive team.

All forms of life gain, be it heal or leech, being reduced to 50% power in arena certainly does not help roshi survive either. (With healing tips from water main, heals are at 90% power, instead of the 140% power outside).

lol no one above you said roshi is tank in arena XD

that's why i said 150% buff can nearly kill anyone round 1.

Stats growth are the boost per level up they gain but don't show at all what are the basic by default level 1 stat they own.

1000 + 10*level is still lower than 1500 + 7*level at level 100 and those growth stats are only the 10 and 7 coefficients i showed in this example.

Gaara kk, moreover, isn't either a full tank. Gaara normal is the tank version, gaara kk is the striking version. And still kk gaara have, by looking at the growths you posted, 1000 more hp and higher defense and resistance growth + superarmor and self shields in round1.

What is your definition of a tank? Mine and the common meaning of it is somebody able to endure hits if in front row. Does roshi survives in front row in arena without shields and/or healings from other ninjas after round1 if comboed? No, he doesn't do it, so is not a tank.

Stat Growths are also affected by star levels and awakened levels.

Also tanks NEED healers. No Ifs or Buts.

Unless its in a Earth Main team...then shields can work too I guess.

I feel like if you don't bring Han Roshi will surely die in a matter of rounds but..then again thats what he's meant for to * up damage

The team i'm running is Hanzo Roshi Han FM. So even if roshi dies there's still hope with Hanzos poison and Fm ignition

(Han is roshis papi comfirmed o;)