How exactly gonna kill the game?Watching Scion Storm in youtube,he say that China is more f2p friendly than our version,and they are past 4.0

the only thing f2p get less resources from is plunder. and its not like its a huge drop. instead of 150 a day every day, u get 50 a day from plunder and 35 from convoy every day, 85total, then you hope for plunder tickets when you do convoys so u can get extra free plunders. So worst case u lose 65 coupons a day but that gets offset by plunder tickets anyway so u realy lose less than that.

on the other hand, after 4.0 we get a new shop, kinda like the coin shops we have now,but the new shop has basicaly every power item, and you get the coins from daily events. so this new shop with these new coins let you buy the power items you normaly tried to get thru events but u get them for free faster as a f2p than u would now because u get about 70k a week, which if used to buy advanced threads would be worth 4500 coupons a week, show me a f2p who gets 4500 coupons a week and doesnt work for oasis, so yeah you get alot more for free after 4.0 than u do now.

So a few ftp lose out a tiny amount of coupon, but much more ftp would end up with more coupons. I'd think this would make more player stay around. Stop only thinking about what you stand to lose, but rather think about it regarding to everyone in the server.

Unless, ofc, you are plundering your own alts only which is technically not allowed so if you quit as a result of unable to do that, that's a great thing, all rule breakers should be perma banned.

P.S. shad, you also need to exclude plunderer from the 4500, because.... you can gain that from plunder alone (in theory). And other source will easily provide 2-3k so...

Quick question... do you know for certain what the devs are going to introduce here in our servers in the 4.0? Answer: No. We have a preview of what we could/should get, but i still have to see an official thread from the staff about whatever content is 4.0 going to bring upon us.

So, unless i see something official, i don't even worry about it. Is it going to make the game unplayable? If so, i'll quit. I just have fun the way i play atm, so i'll continue to have fun in my own way.

does this mean we should save all our coupons since we can just buy the power for other currency o-o i should save up for ninjas i guess 0-0

Yeah, because they are so reliable

Where is my red chakra exchange?

mood scroll in wheel?

Did you know how long it took them to get seasonal arena reward right?

Do you remember how they weren't aware of the tactic pack nerf?

Do you know that they only knew of the TI nerf after the fact?

And then there is the SA adv thread matter that we can't disprove but they certainly also haven't proven.

Fact of the matter is, the staff do NOT know what's in the future, they only know whatever the dev tells them, which may or may not be true and certainly not complete.

At the same time, oasis don't write their own code. So as far as update goes, we will either get them or we won't, and if we do, it will be the same as it were in the CN version.

You are right as far as we don't know if there will be a plunder change. But if there is one, it will be what we see in CN.

So as far as future update goes, I won't trust the "staff" any more than the more frequent and well informed forum goers, both are about equally reliable.

P.S. To be clear, I'm not blaming the staff. Like I said earlier, they only know what the devs tells them, which aren't always complete and/or true. The fault lies in the incompetent devs.

Jib edit: I have edited your post a little bit so that it was more in line with the forum rules. Thank you for understanding. If you have any questions pertaining to the edit, please feel free to message me on discord! I will try my best to answer any questions =]

my point is, in 4.0 f2p get a new feature set that gives ~4500 coupons a week value, and right now people do not get that at all, 7 days of plundering 150 coupons is only 1050 coupons, 20 from tree a day is 140, 50 from monthly pack is 350, 20 from jonin medal is 140, so 1680 a week right now and then whatever events give. in 4.0 once that new shop comes out thats still 140 from tree, 140 from medal, 350 from pack, 350 from plunder, 245 from convoy for 1225 coupons and whatever events give plus the shop value of ~4500 each week. about 400 coupons lost for 4500 gained is pretty good as a f2p and is why i dont understand people asking if 4.0 will kill the game since they trade 400 coupons they could put towards events for ~4500 coupons of value in a shop, even if events give 4x the reward as what u put into it(which is the best ive seen with ingot rewards) then thats still a value of 1600 in items at best vs 4500 in items, the comparison from whats lost to whats gained is obviously in the favor of gains after 4.0.

That's assuming we get this new shop, at the same price.... which may not be the case, given how we get shafted for everything

This is true. But in a way, it strenghten my idea even further. We have seen that we are different from other version, even from our german "cousin".

Take the tactic page's flat % bonuses in germany: can you imagine how much is it going to deepen the gap between even small spenders and f2p? Give to that MB 15% extra flat atk, 15% more hp to roshi?

This is imo a more impending worrisome update for many f2p, but i see no post about this, even if it could change the game for the worst even next week.

I'll worry about things once i'll have enough info. Untill then... i'll keep playing so that i can have fun.

no, u shouldn't save everything until the shop comes out, it will be a while yet, at least 3 more months but probably more, in that time new ninjas will come out and u will lose out on power u could get now.

@daemoniccerberus - we will get that shop, its a major update in cn and we have to follow cn. we may get different pricing on things, i doubt it but we could, but also their shop has already changed a few times since it came out so we wont get their exact same shop right away.

@Shryke - we don't follow germany, we follow china. germany also follows china but they are ahead of us because they started sooner. china had the % tactics and got rid of them, germany got them but will lose them like china did, and they learned from germany not to give those to us(i wish they gave them anyway cause it would make blitz better or turtles worse).

Hi guys!

Since our version is different from the other versions, there is no definite information on what will come and what will be changed. If you want to discuss anything concerning other versions, please visit their respective forums. We will be updating our version to version 4.0 and when that time comes, we will be posting our own official translation and news about changes.

Stay tuned and thanks for understanding!

~Jib