Reply
Views: 11394 | Replies: 21
[ Events ] Plunder *s

 [

Copy Link

]

  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 3
  • Posts: 2
On 2017-10-09 23:27:05Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
1# Go To

This game has very little in morality when it comes to plundering, whoever is the strongest will always win even if you bring support. The *ity is letting the enemy also have a full team and full health on the second battle. Basically it's like taking candy from a baby and no one in their right mind would see that as fair but you are in it only to make money off people that have some mental illness to win over others no matter what the odds. Something needs to be done about the plundering system cause at the moment, you have no morals like Naruto does, the Leaf ninja's would never do such a thing as stealing from the poor.





This post was last edited by Wolf One on 2017-10-09 23:27:05.
  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 21
  • Posts: 96
On 2017-10-10 02:51:49Show this Author Only
2#

I used to be one of those who do convoys and get constantly plundered. I've had my rants and complaints in the past regarding how unfair the system is, it really is atm. Now I started on another server, and it came to a point that I can take on quite most of the players in the server, so I started plundering to see how it works. As of now, each successful plunder gives you 50 coupons, do it 3x a day and you'll get up to 150 coupons max everyday just from plunder alone. Now 150 coupons is what entices people to do plunder; it's just too good to miss out on. Sure there are pure spiteful people out there who do plunder just for the sake of tormenting others, but there are are other people (like me) who do it just because we had to, in order to advance ourselves as best we could. Plunder isn't all that easy either, several others like me still fails 1-2 plunders, and we get 0 coupon for each failed attempt.


Don't worry though, rumor has it that Naruto Online Version 4.0 will arrive soon. In that update, the convoy/plunder system gets changed. Successful convoy will yield only 30 coupons, but when someone plunders you, you'd only lose 5 coupons (thus, you will get a minimum of 25 coupons.) Also, the update will make it so that you can do both convoy and plunder in the same day.





This post was last edited by Allyrianne on 2017-10-10 02:52:45.
  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 31
  • Posts: 467
On 2017-10-17 02:27:30Show this Author Only
3#

that's Not even the messed up thing that the stronger player always wins, The disgusting and revolting thing about the plunder system is that 99% of the time the plunderer doesn't need the extra 4500 coupons per month as they are already spending thousands of dollars but they still do it for the ''pleasure'' and because it's fun. In my server there are quite a few players who have ninjas such as 4* Ay and sussano itachi and their bench is filled with tsunade hokage and skill broken tobiramas but they still plunder, No one is going to catch up to them if they let us do our convoys in peace because they already have 90k+ BP but no they still plunder.

  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 29
  • Posts: 2271
On 2017-10-17 04:06:01Show this Author Only
4#

I'm ftp

There is ONE player who can defeat me more than 90% of the time in the server.

There are 1-2 player who can defeat me ~20-30% of the time in other groups

Ergo I CAN plunder, and I DO need the coupon.

I don't plunder because:

It's immoral

It is out of character from an RPG standpoint.

I don't want my server to die and then have to beg for mergers.


I think plunder is probably the 3rd biggest cause of player quitting, after people getting bored overtime and the occasional game breaking bug that cause a sudden wave of rage quit. I'd rank Xserver sage higher before, but 3.0 kinda fixed it with the extended rewarding ranks so it's not much a problem now.

  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 32
  • Posts: 291
On 2017-10-17 04:51:49Show this Author Only
5#

If you've ever plundered then you know that you have to spend like 10-30 minutes clicking the refresh *on EVERY SINGLE DAY. Not to mention other people are doing it and if you don't click fast enough, your plunder gets taken. Just pointing this out there lol

  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 48
  • Posts: 1614
On 2017-10-17 05:26:48Show this Author Only
6#
  • Allyrianne On 2017-10-10 02:51:49
  • I used to be one of those who do convoys and get constantly plundered. I've had my rants and complaints in the past regarding how unfair the system is, it really is atm. Now I started on another server, and it came to a point that I can take on quite most of the players in the server, so I started plundering to see how it works. As of now, each successful plunder gives you 50 coupons, do it 3x a day and you'll get up to 150 coupons max everyday just from plunder alone. Now 150 coupons is what entices people to do plunder; it's just too good to miss out on. Sure there are pure spiteful people out there who do plunder just for the sake of tormenting others, but there are are other people (like me) who do it just because we had to, in order to advance ourselves as best we could. Plunder isn't all that easy either, several others like me still fails 1-2 plunders, and we get 0 coupon for each failed attempt.


    Don't worry though, rumor has it that Naruto Online Version 4.0 will arrive soon. In that update, the convoy/plunder system gets changed. Successful convoy will yield only 30 coupons, but when someone plunders you, you'd only lose 5 coupons (thus, you will get a minimum of 25 coupons.) Also, the update will make it so that you can do both convoy and plunder in the same day.


And rumor also has it it'll cost ingots to plunder.

  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 29
  • Posts: 2271
On 2017-10-17 05:33:50Show this Author Only
7#
  • Resilliance On 2017-10-17 05:26:48
  • And rumor also has it it'll cost ingots to plunder.

There is one free one for top 50 ranked players

Any more you need to use a ticket or ingot. (i.e. first one for non-top-50 and 2nd/3rd for everyone)

  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 48
  • Posts: 1614
On 2017-10-17 05:57:38Show this Author Only
8#
  • PraiseLuka On 2017-10-17 05:33:50
  • There is one free one for top 50 ranked players

    Any more you need to use a ticket or ingot. (i.e. first one for non-top-50 and 2nd/3rd for everyone)

Tickets..?


Do they stack then?

Or...

  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 29
  • Posts: 2271
On 2017-10-17 07:53:20Show this Author Only
9#
  • Resilliance On 2017-10-17 05:57:38
  • Tickets..?


    Do they stack then?

    Or...

It's a consumable item that allow you to do an extra SS, there is one type for plunder and another for convoy.

They are permanent and you c*e two in the same day (for 3 SS plunders)

You earn them in events and it can drop as a result of S convoy/plunder

  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 36
  • Posts: 205
On 2017-10-17 08:58:03Show this Author Only
10#

Wolves why you hafta be mad

- Crayola Council

  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 48
  • Posts: 1614
On 2017-10-17 12:57:54Show this Author Only
11#
  • PraiseLuka On 2017-10-17 07:53:20
  • It's a consumable item that allow you to do an extra SS, there is one type for plunder and another for convoy.

    They are permanent and you c*e two in the same day (for 3 SS plunders)

    You earn them in events and it can drop as a result of S convoy/plunder

I see...

This is both interesting and bad...


Atleast I can keep plundering.

  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 2
  • Posts: 45
On 2017-10-17 17:59:41Show this Author Only
12#

I am fully agree with u bro :). The leaf ninja and a noble ninja shouldn't does plunder.

But REST ASSURED friend , when the version 4.0 of naruto online hit us, the plundering system and the convoy system will change drastically to a more better fair system. When u got plundered , u will only lose 5 coupon out of 35 coupon. So u still got 30 coupon. As for plunder, only 1 free plunder can be taken per day.

As for players who do plunder regularly its mean decreasing in coupon gain. Yeah I know about it, oasis should give 100 coupon or 120 coupons as a reward from first succesfull plundering instead of 50 coupon. It will help F2P or P2P players competing with big whale or P2W.


  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 31
  • Posts: 467
On 2017-10-17 20:54:04Show this Author Only
13#
  • PraiseLuka On 2017-10-17 04:06:01
  • I'm ftp

    There is ONE player who can defeat me more than 90% of the time in the server.

    There are 1-2 player who can defeat me ~20-30% of the time in other groups

    Ergo I CAN plunder, and I DO need the coupon.

    I don't plunder because:

    It's immoral

    It is out of character from an RPG standpoint.

    I don't want my server to die and then have to beg for mergers.


    I think plunder is probably the 3rd biggest cause of player quitting, after people getting bored overtime and the occasional game breaking bug that cause a sudden wave of rage quit. I'd rank Xserver sage higher before, but 3.0 kinda fixed it with the extended rewarding ranks so it's not much a problem now.

Your server seems to be way too ''Ideal'' for just you, you just happen to be able to plunder as f2p and just one p2p can beat you? you also can save up to 4k coupons as f2p. Just becasue your server is so ''Ideal'' doesn't me*l the servers are like that (to be honest your server seems too good to be true, has it been merged yet?). The thing is if a player with 5-8k bp advantage plunders you, it doesn't feel as horrible as being ''farmed'' by someone with 20-30k power advantage if you get plundered by someone with similar Battle power then it feels Fair and you only have yourself to blame for the loss but if you don't even get a fighting chance is just very demoralizing, it's so Bad in our server that if I get support from our high bp team mates then someone else in our group is left without support just waiting to be plundered (yeah a player can only support 3 times).

  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 0
  • Posts: 4
On 2017-10-17 21:55:46Show this Author Only
14#
  • PraiseLuka On 2017-10-17 04:06:01
  • I'm ftp

    There is ONE player who can defeat me more than 90% of the time in the server.

    There are 1-2 player who can defeat me ~20-30% of the time in other groups

    Ergo I CAN plunder, and I DO need the coupon.

    I don't plunder because:

    It's immoral

    It is out of character from an RPG standpoint.

    I don't want my server to die and then have to beg for mergers.


    I think plunder is probably the 3rd biggest cause of player quitting, after people getting bored overtime and the occasional game breaking bug that cause a sudden wave of rage quit. I'd rank Xserver sage higher before, but 3.0 kinda fixed it with the extended rewarding ranks so it's not much a problem now.

there is nothing immoral about plundering in a game

  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 10
  • Posts: 1347
On 2017-10-17 22:20:33Show this Author Only
15#
  • PraiseLuka On 2017-10-17 04:06:01
  • I'm ftp

    There is ONE player who can defeat me more than 90% of the time in the server.

    There are 1-2 player who can defeat me ~20-30% of the time in other groups

    Ergo I CAN plunder, and I DO need the coupon.

    I don't plunder because:

    It's immoral

    It is out of character from an RPG standpoint.

    I don't want my server to die and then have to beg for mergers.


    I think plunder is probably the 3rd biggest cause of player quitting, after people getting bored overtime and the occasional game breaking bug that cause a sudden wave of rage quit. I'd rank Xserver sage higher before, but 3.0 kinda fixed it with the extended rewarding ranks so it's not much a problem now.

my server almost dead because i always do plunder . p/s my server alr merged 5-6 month ago and we need another merge





This post was last edited by Kuro하돌 on 2017-10-17 22:28:46.
  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 20
  • Posts: 487
On 2017-10-18 01:21:05Show this Author Only
16#
  • Kuro하돌 On 2017-10-17 22:20:33
  • my server almost dead because i always do plunder . p/s my server alr merged 5-6 month ago and we need another merge


You would need more than 5 accounts to kill your server by plundering lol

  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 29
  • Posts: 2271
On 2017-10-18 02:31:04Show this Author Only
17#
  • Attac an Respec On 2017-10-17 20:54:04
  • Your server seems to be way too ''Ideal'' for just you, you just happen to be able to plunder as f2p and just one p2p can beat you? you also can save up to 4k coupons as f2p. Just becasue your server is so ''Ideal'' doesn't me*l the servers are like that (to be honest your server seems too good to be true, has it been merged yet?). The thing is if a player with 5-8k bp advantage plunders you, it doesn't feel as horrible as being ''farmed'' by someone with 20-30k power advantage if you get plundered by someone with similar Battle power then it feels Fair and you only have yourself to blame for the loss but if you don't even get a fighting chance is just very demoralizing, it's so Bad in our server that if I get support from our high bp team mates then someone else in our group is left without support just waiting to be plundered (yeah a player can only support 3 times).

S12, come and take a look.

It's an old server, and therefore reasonably active--we still get 20+ in fox at times, and GNW usually have 40+ people across 3 groups, so we don't need a merger much(many player dislike the prospect of merge because all our neighbors have more ptw, which would be bad for us). We are just lucky that we don't have any huge ptws. There were more ptp before, but they quit over time. And others I beat out by far more dedication. (well, some of those can be argued to be ptw as opposed to be ptp, because in their hayday they were unstoppable, but.... they died off overtime)


it's true that it's more ideal for a ftp than most, but that only affect the matter of whether a person CAN plunder. The choice of can but do not applies to all player who can plunder, ptw or ftp, equally.


On a side note, I'm about 50-50 with a groupmate of mine, who is also ftp. As it were, my group is pretty much the ftp group, with only a few tiny spender that are far weaker than me and that mate of mine is. All the top ftp are in my group except one (one of the ones who can beat me 20-30% of the time).

  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 48
  • Posts: 1614
On 2017-10-18 04:47:17Show this Author Only
18#

If anything, whenever I do plunder, there's only really 2 people I have to watch out for in opposing groups, maybe 1, never fought one of them, but they have more power. The other is stronger then me, but I think they're inactive now, sadly.


My server's Server 18, or Haku. We're moderately active, been wanting a merge though, not the most active of the older servers, one group dominates, 2 groups in gnw, gonna try to gather some info about how other's feel about the status later today.

  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 29
  • Posts: 2271
On 2017-10-18 05:21:38Show this Author Only
19#
  • Waifuu On 2017-10-18 01:21:05
  • You would need more than 5 accounts to kill your server by plundering lol

You grievously underestimate the amount of damage a single plunderer can do, especially on server that already have a meh population.

First, you need to understand that for most players, the game looses its luster after a few month of game play. Progression after 70k is very slow. At this point, many players are holding up because they have friends in the game.


Given that, if one person gets caught by the plunderer a number of days in a row, they might rage quit. Which might cause some of his/her friend to quit as well. This can quickly lead to the death of a group. Which then removes competition from the server and make the game more boring, which might prompt players from the dominating group to quit as a result of boredom which will lead to a dead server.

Now, this is a bit extreme. It's a chain reaction that can be stopped at any step (i.e. maybe the one guy quitting don't cause the group to die, and perhaps the dominating group just enjoy the * and don't get bored) but it CAN happen.


Also, to be fair, plunder is not the ONLY reason players quit. As mentioned above, much of the problem is due to the server already being lower activity, the game have lost luster after long play period and slow progression. However, plunder does tend to be the straw that breaks the camel's back, because it is one of the more personal "offense" a player can suffer. This makes it much more likely to trigger rage quit, which then have the risk of causing the above described chain reaction.


And even if a server survives the first such incident (chain reaction stopped), if plunder continues, it might get started again and it may or may not survive that one and so on. This is what makes plunder dangerous to server health.


Now, this isn't a particular problem on more populous server. For one, there are more plunder target as well as plunderer, so while a player might get plundered daily still, it's unlikely to be by the same person, which makes it much less personal and less rage inducing. Also, there are likely more player per group, thus more friends to keep one in, thus making rage quit less likely to happen. At the same time, a single player quitting won't be as catastrophic because there are more "replacements". And certainly, one group dying won't mean competition disappearing, as there would be other groups. But unfortunately, this relative safety might only exist in maybe a dozen server or so. Most servers do not have sufficient population to have this assured resilience.

  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 10
  • Posts: 95
On 2017-10-18 05:40:14Show this Author Only
20#
  • PraiseLuka On 2017-10-18 02:31:04
  • S12, come and take a look.

    It's an old server, and therefore reasonably active--we still get 20+ in fox at times, and GNW usually have 40+ people across 3 groups, so we don't need a merger much(many player dislike the prospect of merge because all our neighbors have more ptw, which would be bad for us). We are just lucky that we don't have any huge ptws. There were more ptp before, but they quit over time. And others I beat out by far more dedication. (well, some of those can be argued to be ptw as opposed to be ptp, because in their hayday they were unstoppable, but.... they died off overtime)


    it's true that it's more ideal for a ftp than most, but that only affect the matter of whether a person CAN plunder. The choice of can but do not applies to all player who can plunder, ptw or ftp, equally.


    On a side note, I'm about 50-50 with a groupmate of mine, who is also ftp. As it were, my group is pretty much the ftp group, with only a few tiny spender that are far weaker than me and that mate of mine is. All the top ftp are in my group except one (one of the ones who can beat me 20-30% of the time).

Surprised over your server's average power.

I'm in the 300 range, and top 10 is 80k+, where 5 of them in the 90k-110k range.
That being said, 10/10 has jonin star as well.

Reply
Quicky Post
Reply

Log in in order to Post. | Register