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how to counter Ay(fourth),LM,Samui,and darui

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On 2017-09-16 22:28:12Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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From what I can tell this lineup is near unbeatable, it's immune to all debuffs during round one, the damage and number of attacks are so high you can't possibly out-defend it. Is there actually a way to beat this lineup?

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On 2017-09-17 00:34:41Show this Author Only
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On 2017-09-17 11:09:10Show this Author Only
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You can't counter super rare teams unless you have equal or more power that and you need multiple semi super rare ninjas like Hanzo minato obito masked (who are all like 15k coupons/ingots) etc. there is a reason why ay is so expansive if he can be countered with just about any joe jack and jill with immobile or acupuncture then no one would even bother to buy him, the same with itachi sussano too.

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On 2017-09-17 11:17:55Show this Author Only
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Until the other cloud Ninjas came out, Ay has never been a serious threat, more of a pain in the ass, I've never really had too much of a tough time beating Raikage teams even with semi-basic Ninjas, power and initiative certainly helps.

Most Super Rare characters are not as scary as you expect when they're the only really rare character on the team. It's just that people who tend to have those characters tend have alot higher power, but generally no, it's a hassle but far from unbeatable.


I do think though with 3rd Raikage & Samui, Ay is going to be alot harder to deal with, which is a good thing as frankly I thought he was pretty average compared to other kage ninja, Mei & Sasuke would have made more sense being Kage Super Rares than Ay.

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On 2017-09-17 15:25:17Show this Author Only
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easy beat: Water main - roshi - han - sailor sakura. full f2p he cant do * remove buffs in round 1 and he will die from poison in round 3-4 plus he cant kill anyone wihtout buffs.. other team. Obito inside and gg you just control Ay in 1st round after his first basic attack you go with obito and immobile him removing everything. and then try to kill light main fast and thats it. Samui will be in front she will take a lot of dmg from basic attacks.

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On 2017-09-19 04:51:07Show this Author Only
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  • Immortal Utsuro On 2017-09-17 11:17:55
  • Until the other cloud Ninjas came out, Ay has never been a serious threat, more of a pain in the ass, I've never really had too much of a tough time beating Raikage teams even with semi-basic Ninjas, power and initiative certainly helps.

    Most Super Rare characters are not as scary as you expect when they're the only really rare character on the team. It's just that people who tend to have those characters tend have alot higher power, but generally no, it's a hassle but far from unbeatable.


    I do think though with 3rd Raikage & Samui, Ay is going to be alot harder to deal with, which is a good thing as frankly I thought he was pretty average compared to other kage ninja, Mei & Sasuke would have made more sense being Kage Super Rares than Ay.

what you talking about? There is already enough cloud support available like mabui cee and Darui plus you c*so buff him with lightning buff from your main, what more do you want? are you one of those guys who only think something is OP and good if it's utterly broken as heck?

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On 2017-09-19 04:55:59Show this Author Only
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  • Jori. On 2017-09-17 15:25:17
  • easy beat: Water main - roshi - han - sailor sakura. full f2p he cant do * remove buffs in round 1 and he will die from poison in round 3-4 plus he cant kill anyone wihtout buffs.. other team. Obito inside and gg you just control Ay in 1st round after his first basic attack you go with obito and immobile him removing everything. and then try to kill light main fast and thats it. Samui will be in front she will take a lot of dmg from basic attacks.

hey I am not trying to defend ay or anything but you make it sound like ay is alone in his team, I am pretty sure ay out-damages sailor sakura heals if he is buffed by both lightning main and darui and also ay combos are hit based too which means he can damage Han pretty bad even if he can't initiate a chase combo on him. also you forgot that even if you immobile ay on round 1 he will still do his lightning armor because mabui can remove his debuffs





This post was last edited by Attac an Respec on 2017-09-19 04:58:23.
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On 2017-09-19 06:27:22Show this Author Only
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  • Attac an Respec On 2017-09-19 04:55:59
  • hey I am not trying to defend ay or anything but you make it sound like ay is alone in his team, I am pretty sure ay out-damages sailor sakura heals if he is buffed by both lightning main and darui and also ay combos are hit based too which means he can damage Han pretty bad even if he can't initiate a chase combo on him. also you forgot that even if you immobile ay on round 1 he will still do his lightning armor because mabui can remove his debuffs


if you use obito on ay, who already used lightning armor- he loses it as its a temporary buff. Even if mabui heals him, he wont use attacks because you destroyed that buff with obito. Thats why when you encounter a team with healers or debuf disperse, you need to use obito AFTER ay uses his temporary lightning armor.





This post was last edited by Zathroth on 2017-09-19 06:28:34.
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On 2017-09-19 19:24:01Show this Author Only
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  • Zathroth On 2017-09-19 06:27:22
  • if you use obito on ay, who already used lightning armor- he loses it as its a temporary buff. Even if mabui heals him, he wont use attacks because you destroyed that buff with obito. Thats why when you encounter a team with healers or debuf disperse, you need to use obito AFTER ay uses his temporary lightning armor.


when the immobile gets healed he still attacks 4times

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On 2017-09-20 07:54:21Show this Author Only
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  • Attac an Respec On 2017-09-19 04:55:59
  • hey I am not trying to defend ay or anything but you make it sound like ay is alone in his team, I am pretty sure ay out-damages sailor sakura heals if he is buffed by both lightning main and darui and also ay combos are hit based too which means he can damage Han pretty bad even if he can't initiate a chase combo on him. also you forgot that even if you immobile ay on round 1 he will still do his lightning armor because mabui can remove his debuffs


you use han mystery AFTER his Ay uses lightning armor, so no boosts of any kind except for darui barrier and he will suffer both poison and ignition (if hits roshi with one of his weakened standard attacks). Round 2 you remove the barrier with Roshi mystery and you also heal as much as needed. That team dies by poison and ignition on long term by this lineup, like every other current MB meta team that doesn't have roshi in it.





This post was last edited by Garv on 2017-09-20 07:54:56.
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