Since the advent of this convoy system (2.0?) there have been less than 5 cases where I was unable to get an SS. Half of those was due to me opting not to take an SS when offered during a time period where I know I might be plundered.

For the record, I get, on average, ~12 refreshes per day. Roughly 6-7 during the night session, and 2-4 during noon session (sometimes the full 6-7) plus the 2 free manual refreshes. So your result might be better or worse if you can get more or less than that amount of refresh.

The thing is, while I get SS when I want vast majority of time, I do have trouble getting all max value S. In fact, I only get 3 of those about 70% of the time. Every week, for a day or two, I end up being one short. If SS is guaranteed on every refresh, then there would be fewer S, and by extension, less max value S. So while I might gain 100 more coupon, over the course of the 6 months, I would be missing out maybe 5-10m coins. It's hard to say which is more valuable due to lack of easy conversion.

Of course, if all you ant is guaranteed SS on the two manual refresh, then that might work better. That should have relatively little impact on the coin income, maybe 1-2m only, probably worth giving up for 100 coupon.

yea but what i dont get is why is it not a guaranteed one at least in the free refresh AT LEAST 1!!! no more o less cuz i mean f2p cant use more than one so why somedays u refresh and let the timer refresh wen free ones are done NO SS.... then the next day every refresh has 2/3 SS i rather one SURE SS a day and im good wether i get plunder or not 18 coupons betr than NONE :( specially for us F2P

Every 30 minutes the missions refresh. So you have actually two refreshes + one refresh every 30 minutes for both the time spans. It's pretty unlikely to not get any.

it's possible I tell you

Yep, i know is possible, just unlikely, something that happens maybe once a month

While rare it should not occur ever one should b guaranteed i mean its a measly 30 coupons WORSE u can be plundered so 50/50 u get the full 30 anyway so why not jut make it a guarantee man....like why is it not a certain thing in the 2 free refreshes not all have time to sit hours there usually its a quick log in on llunch or something anyway it still should be a sure thing cuz its really annoying and has happend to me more than once not getting any SS

not true multiplie times in a row it has happened to people in my group some even spending coupons to refresh because they have work and cant sit around all day waiting

The problem there lies in the "cant sit around all day waiting"

Out of the 16 free refreshes daily, how many do they get?

Getting no SS out of the 16 is, frankly, a once in 3-6 month event.

You can't blame the game for stuff that are there but player can't take advantage of.

They get the whole first convy try worth of refreshes. You can blame a game when real people have lives and this game pretends they do not. If you can't get one within one cycle How exactly are you blaming a person for not being able to make it back for the 2nd cycle

ok and even still besides all that y do u have to be around a game so long for something so small????????? its convoy it 30!!!!!! coupons 30!!!! not 100 not 1000 but 30!!! now add the chance of being plunderd its now 18!!!! not 100 not 500 but 18!!!!! so all that waiting for hours which ppl dont rly have time due to real life things uno mainly WORK and SCHOOL!!! all im saying is it shud be guaranteed in one of the 3 refreshes no matter what since its such a small amount anyway and it can be lessend by being plunder so all that waiting and hastle for 18/30 coupons and u may not even get it on refreshes come on dude..........stop *ing up for nonsense its not like its a big reward like say plundering where u can get possible 150 so that deserves time and patience and effort but 18/30?? once a day totally big diff...say u dont get plunderd ok thats 7 x30 IF u get it 210 coupons a week while plunder is 1050 if u get all 3 daily now that deserves patience and effort and due rewards but convoy u only can do 1 a day AS F2P!!!!

You people say it like you have to intensely stare at the screen for the entire time period. That simply isn't true (well, not if you do convoy, plunderers do, assuming they aren't cheating).

You only need to check the thing once every 30 min--you need exact times if you only open the page at that time, you have up to 30 min of leeway if you just keep it open on a tab somewhere. So in reality, you could get all the refreshes in with less than 20 min of staring at the game, less than 5 if you are good at keeping track of time.

(This is why i get screams of "y u no support me, u onlinez!" all the time in game.... because I'm afk...)

Then you need to realize that this is a ftp/ptw game. And part of the feature of such a game is that getting everything that is offered for free is hard, it takes a lot of work. Because if you can't make it, you are expected to catch up with $$. So you have a job, great! You can't afford to play the game as much as you want, but the income you get from doing the job will more than make up for it!

Not saying that people should pay, I don't, but the fact of the matter is you can. And therefore, it's ok to have stuff being challenging because there are options.

To do well in the game, you either have to spend time+effort or money. Don't be spoiled and expect everything to be handed to you.

You'll be surprised by the amount of people that just demand free stuff. Look at when myoboku trial was released in July and giving out Lee8gates and additinal items, and the following month with make-out kakashi. People (I think the f2ps who don't want to put the time into the game) were so happy then were strong to criticize and demand to replace it with the puzzles, which provides a source of coupons....

Every game is like this where if you don't want to spend any money, you better put the time in to be a little competitive so you can at least enjoy the game. If you don't, you move onto the next game until you are satisfied.

Earlier today I went to do Convoys, and I had 3 SS convoys up.

After I did one with no plunders (thank god). I refreshed...and 3 more SS convoys...

:c

you guys talkin abt being ungratful how is what im saying come off like that??? i mean seriously ITS 30!!! FREAKING COUPONS 30!!!!!!!!! im not asking for MORE im jus saying make it a guarantee in the bloody refreshes wth.....no one asking for any free stuff either read or dont just be one of those who copy paste the usual regurgitated nonsense abt f2p always want more free cuz this is NOTHING to do with wanting more coupons its just make the 18/30 measly coupons be in the refresh for convoy a sure thing how bad can that be?? u cant do more than 1!!!! run neway so how is it bad to make it guarantee some of us cant log in both times to do this uno so wen we lose out as f2p all these coupons do add up and if ur P2P wats to lose more than likely u plunder its a simple QOL upgrade i think as again IT IS ONLY 30 THIRTY COUPONS no one is asking for more just make the tiny amt guaranteed like ninetails event one u do 1 damage u sure of ur 25 gee

yes some days u refresh and wait on the extra refresh and nothing while some days evry refresh u can get even 3 SS ive seen it but its useless cuz u can only do 1 anyway

Making sure everyone gets a guaranteed ss is kind of giving away free coupons since you aren't making an effort to wait if you don't get a ss mission in the first three missions of the day. Also, the convoy system can be for f2ps and p2ws and so when you only provide your opinion as a f2p rather than talk about for the whole community, your argument can be countered easily. I'm a f2p just like you but I'm willing to put time into a game I enjoy (I'm just only talking about the game content).

I'll make you a counter proposal. You get guaranteed SS on your 16th refresh of the day if you haven't gotten any yet.

You can get that for free, it takes a bit of effort, can you live with that?

Fact of the matter is, if you get 16 refresh, you have an over 99.9% chance of getting an SS. So this won't be a huge change anyway.

You know what I have a problem with? I have a problem with people expecting to get them without putting in the effort of even getting 10 refreshes, which would drop their chance to maybe 95% or even less (if refresh count is lower). They expect to NOT put in the effort and STILL get the stuff. That's what I have an issue with.

If you do put in the effort, by all means, you should get it.

To be fair, there is no effort involved when waiting to do an SS Convoy.

You either sit there for hours, or you check back every 30 minutes while doing something else.

Well, that is some effort. Thou I agree that it's not much.

The thing is, some of those people are asking for hand outs when they can't even put in this much. That's just flat out entitlement.