Well, that's not exactly fact. Generally speaking, 10-15k will do fine if you can mitigate some of their heals. Mei, for example, is a great help as it can CC and ignite. 30k is grossly exaggerated. That only happens if you run a team that's simply hard countered by the enemy and have nothing to do with water being OP. Like When I run into a CC heavy team while using a team with little to no cleanse (arena quest are a pain XD)

Unfortunately, not all of them.

There are 4 and 5 figure cloth out there... handbags and shoes too...

And I don't mean custom tailored, just mass produced "designer" items.

I just don't see the point of it...

People are crazy i tell ya, crazy!

@OP: I think you missed my point. My point is that the only flaw in your statement is the numbers. Water ARE OP, unless you don't think requiring 10-15k more power qualifies as On the other hand, you did say "just stating the facts" so the point of whether it is actually fact can be a point of discussion.

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