Well, that's not exactly fact. Generally speaking, 10-15k will do fine if you can mitigate some of their heals. Mei, for example, is a great help as it can CC and ignite. 30k is grossly exaggerated. That only happens if you run a team that's simply hard countered by the enemy and have nothing to do with water being OP. Like When I run into a CC heavy team while using a team with little to no cleanse (arena quest are a pain XD)

That is all besides the point. I didn't start this thread to argue about water being op or not but because i was wrongfully muted on the general discussion thread where a great deal of the discourse happens in this forum

Whether or not you were trying to be disrespectful, the first sentence makes it sound like you were trying to conclude that OP doesn't know the obvious answer to the question. Next time, just answer a question without any form of toxic, sarcasm, etc. material since the mod's job is to remove any posts they think that can damage the community

Not worth it man,this forum get more censorship every day.I newer will forget when my coment that real world clothes are cheaper than pixel ones was deleted,it say i was creating drama

Unfortunately, not all of them.

There are 4 and 5 figure cloth out there... handbags and shoes too...

And I don't mean custom tailored, just mass produced "designer" items.

I just don't see the point of it...

People are crazy i tell ya, crazy!

@OP: I think you missed my point. My point is that the only flaw in your statement is the numbers. Water ARE OP, unless you don't think requiring 10-15k more power qualifies as On the other hand, you did say "just stating the facts" so the point of whether it is actually fact can be a point of discussion.

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This thread is about how they got deleted/muted for these posts. They aren't looking for answers to these posts in this particular thread.

Not worth it bro, mods sometimes act so power drunk.

Judging from your post history, I would've done far worse than muting.

Your posts come off as disrespectful and borderline toxic, to outright toxic in some.

If it was within my jurisdiction, You'll be banned for your attitude.

There's a multitude of ways to express your opinion, however when it comes to you. You get overly emotional.

Fix that attitude if you want to keep posting on the forums.