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  • Registered: 2017-07-24
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On 2017-09-01 04:20:27Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Hi guys, another chakra thread by me as I pulled a red Sand chakra and I am not sure whether to use it.

This time I would like to know how many of you guys use Sand chakra for DMG reduction? And which ninjas do you use it on?


I'm also going to speculate the following 2 points regarding DMG reduction:


1. Damage reduction is a flat decrease to initial base damage suffered
For example, mystery AOE hits the entire lineup for 10000 damage.

Ninja 1 has 1500 damage reduction with sand rune, so he receives 8500 base damage.

Ninja 2, 3, 4. have 1000 damage reduction. so they receive 9000 base damage


2. Defense, resistance or opponent's *ion are factored in AFTER base damage has been calculated.

Depending on each ninjas defense and resistance, each ninja will receive different damage values. Therefore, if your ninja has poor defense or resistance, the initial damage reduction might not be much use. But on a good tank like Kimimaro, the value of damage reduction might really shine.



Let me know what you guys think about my theory and if it is worth using that red Sand chakra. Thank you.


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On 2017-09-01 04:35:30Show this Author Only
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Last I heard, damage reduction reduce a % portion of damage based on some formula capped at some value.

According to test numbers seen, it's less effective than def/res, but more effective than half of them, ergo 2 reduction would be better than 1 def + 1 res (ofc, you can't have 2, but this means it have a higher per-slot value than def/res)

So yes, I do use them. In generality, they are better than defense and is a toss up with resistance, with the latter being better if you have any ability that utilize it (like shield) while damage reduction being better otherwise.

That said, due to the cap, which I do not know what it is, there might be more significant diminishing return on it. Thou I doubt anyone have reached it yet.


Also, as of last confirmed test, *ion does nothing. And to anyone who claims that they have tested and that nin *ion does help with nin damage against resistance or damage reduction, I know that's BS. Because that's not even what it's supposed to do. Granted, it could, because there are intersections where it would actually work that way. But that's not how it works and therefore shows a flawed understanding and, in all likelihood, test design.

I will continue to ignore anyone who claim they work until they show me numbers and testing methodology.

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