to clarify on the title, anyone can post, but its targeted to those two groups when discussing this topic, so keep that in mind when replying please~
now, if you watch People like scion storm and Kaiser, they always say "go power" "power always" and to an extent, I can understand this HOWEVER this is only understandable from the focus of high spenders, Imo one simple fact is, you don't beat a heavy p2w by spending efficiently you don't really best them at all as an f2p, so why try? Why not get the ninjas you want and have fun fighting people your power... You aren't more likely to win because you got 5k more power over that fun rare Nin, why do I say this? Because your opponent also will have 5k more power...
so basically, why should a player who is f2p or low spencer who's never going to be compareable in power to high spenders buy power instead of going for ninjas and fighting people at there power?
thoughts opinions and such?
sorry if this looks disconjointed, pc isbroken so typing on a phone
I personally go for ninja, everyone's about power, me? I just want a good time! :D
I'm f2p and I have 99 ninja, hoping to get Roshi as my 100th, and not Hebihime
I personally go for ninja, everyone's about power, me? I just want a good time! :D
I'm f2p and I have 99 ninja, hoping to get Roshi as my 100th, and not Hebihime
that's cool to hear and yea everyone seems to be power addicts, I'm middle of the road, I look at future content, get the ninjas I like and are strong, and then when I've got surplus coupons I go for power, I get minato on his next coupon buy event <3 he's my fav
gl getting all the nins =D!
While it is true that a strong p2w will always best you even if you are 100% efficient, if you do for power you will be in the top 5 of your server which in turn means more free stuff such as refines and seal scrolls. The "go for power" applies to what you should do in the majority of the events. Where you hesitate to go for a ninja. As an example getting dp hidan is great and all, but you really need a team behind him or else you won't be able to use him properly.
If you go for a ninja it's because either you like him a lot (Jonin Minato for example) or it will be an end game ninja that you will use for the next x months (tentent or sailor Sakura). Going for Hanzo and then realizing you won't put him in your lineup because your prévois team is stronger is simply a waste of coupons for a f2p.
However if you really love a ninja and will make the game more fun to you then by all means get him.
This game is oriented to pvp so not having enough power will make you a punching bag for other players which ultimately will probably bore you and you will end up quitting the game. However not getting any rare ninja is also boring and can end up in a similar situation where you get bored of the game. Try to balance the 2 and inform yourself of what is coming so that you can save seals/coupons for things you really want.
Honestly, you can have all the power you want, but if you have a crap team (Team 7 or something) and no good ninjas, then the power is wasted, Compared to someone who has a little less power but a better team composition. That is why I focus on Ninjas, cause I'll gain the power anyways even if it is later than everyone else.
u still have to think about the other f2p/low spenders on ur server not just the big spenders. if u dont want to ever win but want to collect ninjas then sure get ninjas but u wont be able to beat any1 on ur server who went power instead. its reccomended to go power because ninjas will come to u eventualy anyway. roshi and han need 220 pulls max so even if u only do free pulls ever other day its 440 days to get them both, start adding in 10 pulls when u save the scrolls and u get them faster.
power on the other hand takes alot longer to get, just farming advanced refines for free right now(if u somehow get first in spacetime every day) will get you max 122 a month. and you need 800 + 1600 + 4000 total. that would take 52 months to get, so its alot harder to farm that power than it is to farm that ninja.
plus events give ninja fragments easily enough, right now just using stam pots u should be able to farm 10+ hidan frags from time limited shop, and there is nothing there to buy to get power(purification runes come fast enough on their own and u need the protection runes to make real use of them).
plus u get rare ninjas from free pulls, every 4 months u should pull a rare ninja per treasure roughly, so y spend coupons on those ninjas?
While it is true that a strong p2w will always best you even if you are 100% efficient, if you do for power you will be in the top 5 of your server which in turn means more free stuff such as refines and seal scrolls. The "go for power" applies to what you should do in the majority of the events. Where you hesitate to go for a ninja. As an example getting dp hidan is great and all, but you really need a team behind him or else you won't be able to use him properly.
If you go for a ninja it's because either you like him a lot (Jonin Minato for example) or it will be an end game ninja that you will use for the next x months (tentent or sailor Sakura). Going for Hanzo and then realizing you won't put him in your lineup because your prévois team is stronger is simply a waste of coupons for a f2p.
However if you really love a ninja and will make the game more fun to you then by all means get him.
This game is oriented to pvp so not having enough power will make you a punching bag for other players which ultimately will probably bore you and you will end up quitting the game. However not getting any rare ninja is also boring and can end up in a similar situation where you get bored of the game. Try to balance the 2 and inform yourself of what is coming so that you can save seals/coupons for things you really want.
I agree with this strategy and strongly advocate for f2p doing research nd planning what to go for, which is why, yes, middle of the road is best, however, the majority of people simply go power and nothing else, , and as a side note, the to 5 on my serve have upwards of 85k bp, the highest f2p barely breached 68k
@renjiasuka
I don't think one should get every ninja, and i agree that youl still be viable in battles, maybe even more so for the variety you can bring, as the power gap becomes less relevant later as survivability goes way up
@shadowblazex
I disagree thvariancr of gain between 2 pure f2p players is minimal, if somebody went pure power vs pure mins, there'd be a 5k difference or so depending, heck, even a 20k difference is easy to make up with vastly superior ninjas and tactics, its more enjoyable to
I get what you are saying though, and I think that its mor an issue of newer servers, in the older larger servers there always going to ne people around your power to fight, the less power you have might even be an advantage for getting those refimes when you are put in a lower sage world
in regards to seao rates, I agree and I don't agree at the same time, many of TH event ninjas age significantly better then seal ninjas do, and are generally stronger and cooleto use, I advocate very much for the research and planning strategy, decide what ninjas you want and save for them then use the excess on power
however there's many people who hav gotten it in there heads that you can only buy pwerrx nothing else and that you are a bad player and an idiot for spending coupons on a ninja, and I just find that absurdly strange
From what I see in cross server events, most f2ps who want to be competitive will use the water team with tenten, mei, and mabui and focus power as the ninjas required aren't as hard to get. If a f2p should save their coupons for a ninja, they sacrifice the power they would have got.
Some people focus on power so that they can be in the top percentage (20-25% at least) of players who can win in events such as sage since its level ba
From what I see in cross server events, most f2ps who want to be competitive will use the water team with tenten, mei, and mabui and focus power as the ninjas required aren't as hard to get. If a f2p should save their coupons for a ninja, they sacrifice the power they would have got.
Some people focus on power so that they can be in the top percentage (20-25% at least) of players who can win in events such as sage since its level ba
I actually disagree, sage world is ba
Sometimes I went for ninja, for example really good ninjas and affordable for f2p that i invested over the past months were Sailor and Hanzo. I never regretted having them from day 1 I recruit. Both of them are really useful, in pvp and teams.
I normally compared and calculated whatever Ninjas were on that event. If something I really wanted like Hokage Tsunade was on event, but too expensive. I went for power instead. Even if I invested on her it would take years to recruit.
I agree with this strategy and strongly advocate for f2p doing research nd planning what to go for, which is why, yes, middle of the road is best, however, the majority of people simply go power and nothing else, , and as a side note, the to 5 on my serve have upwards of 85k bp, the highest f2p barely breached 68k
@renjiasuka
I don't think one should get every ninja, and i agree that youl still be viable in battles, maybe even more so for the variety you can bring, as the power gap becomes less relevant later as survivability goes way up
@shadowblazex
I disagree thvariancr of gain between 2 pure f2p players is minimal, if somebody went pure power vs pure mins, there'd be a 5k difference or so depending, heck, even a 20k difference is easy to make up with vastly superior ninjas and tactics, its more enjoyable to
I get what you are saying though, and I think that its mor an issue of newer servers, in the older larger servers there always going to ne people around your power to fight, the less power you have might even be an advantage for getting those refimes when you are put in a lower sage world
in regards to seao rates, I agree and I don't agree at the same time, many of TH event ninjas age significantly better then seal ninjas do, and are generally stronger and cooleto use, I advocate very much for the research and planning strategy, decide what ninjas you want and save for them then use the excess on power
however there's many people who hav gotten it in there heads that you can only buy pwerrx nothing else and that you are a bad player and an idiot for spending coupons on a ninja, and I just find that absurdly strange
I'm not saying you have to get every ninja, but it is always best to get ninjas you like or you plan on using. Say you have the choice of Sailor Sakura or Any Runes, you c*ways pick up the Sailor Sakura even if you already have her to 4 or 5 star her which will increase your power. Especially when you can get the Low and Medium Refine Runes rather easily, and if you need Adv Runes, you're best bet is to go for the frags to increase the power of your ninja through their stars as that should be a lot faster.
I actually disagree, sage world is ba
You should also disclose what your level is and your friends'. Remember, they count level first when putting where you are in a sage bracket then power. It makes sense you need a higher power compared to the majority of the bracket to stand out. The lower brackets (lvl 70+) is when players start to understand the game and begin building their teams and build power. I'm like your friend who faces people with that power bracket. However, my friend, who is five levels higher than me and have a power difference of 7k), ends up in a higher bracket.
Anyways, in the end, just like what Armand__ said, research a team you want to play with and use your coupons wisely.
You should also disclose what your level is and your friends'. Remember, they count level first when putting where you are in a sage bracket then power. It makes sense you need a higher power compared to the majority of the bracket to stand out. The lower brackets (lvl 70+) is when players start to understand the game and begin building their teams and build power. I'm like your friend who faces people with that power bracket. However, my friend, who is five levels higher than me and have a power difference of 7k), ends up in a higher bracket.
Anyways, in the end, just like what Armand__ said, research a team you want to play with and use your coupons wisely.
at the time of the multiple sage worlds? both 90 and for 2-3weeks worth of battlefieldshope
I also heavily agree with armand hope more people adopt this playstyle over listening to youtubers who cater to heavy spenders and always say powerpowerpower, I Said it myself that's the Strategy I use in the post above his. But this is also a discussion of why people are like this, rather then what arm and is saying
that's cool to hear and yea everyone seems to be power addicts, I'm middle of the road, I look at future content, get the ninjas I like and are strong, and then when I've got surplus coupons I go for power, I get minato on his next coupon buy event <3 he's my fav
gl getting all the nins =D!
Thanks! Hope you can get Minato!
As a F2p player, i think it is important to get close in power to any mini-spenders (definitely not Kozo or Memory of the past). Like many others have suggested, staying close to power with small spenders (being top 10 in the server) is important. If you're weak, it's easier for you to get plundered in convoy, lose in matsuri/SWB (which isn't really relevant anymore), can't do ninja exams because of lack of power, can't do TI, many many more. It's really rewarding when i, a F2P who focus on power can beat a semi-P2W guy with 2k power above me (but less initiative than me because i was stacking medium refines) :D Right now For me, my 1st target is to get to 70k power so that i can get the clothing for free which gives me more power. Then i'll worry about other important ninjas.
As far as coupons go for events, i'll go for ninjas that are certainly gonna "break the me
I like Hanzo, even though he's not good in a normal team, he's SO SO SO useful in RANKED BATTLE. So i'll try to get him in the tree event.
So to answer your question: Focus on power unless that ninja is REALLY cheap/ it's your favourite ninja of all time or something :V
Other than the very basic ninjas such as an early gnw 1010, you are better off spending it all on power as a f2p or low spender; if your wish is to be competitive.
The good event ninjas cost so much, that by the time you save up for them as a f2p over the course of 4 - 6 months, you'd be very behind in power. While your new shiny ninja can keep you competitive for a short while despite the power gap; when the me
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If your goal is just to have fun, then by all means, collect all the ninjas you want.
I , as a F2P am still quite competitive ( top 4 in single server , top 10 in merged server ) while mostly doing a balanced tactic. I always tend to calculate the cost of all ninjas, check if i have good ninjas to support it and check if its worth its cost over the power items in the events and only after that decide if i go for power or for the ninja. Tough i must say getting a early iruka and a early gnw tenten was probably never a mistake spending my first coupons on.
And no, not using water main tenten team for months now, mainly just because kage treasure hates me and i have no mabui or ao (even after 460 ss in kage)...so using lightning blitz or switching it to sage naruto wind main / fire main teams when i get bored of light blitz ( usually changing mains every week to keep it interesting )
The thing is, my enjoyment is a bit impeded by the fact that P2Ws are always killing me in all the events, so I gave up and became a P2S = a Pay 2 Survive
This is literally what i did too. i didnt spend much till recently (before that it was for monthly coupons twice and Gaara when i first joined)but it got very "demanding" to try catch up to ppl who were just paying for power. it brought me some more fun too.
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