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On 2017-08-18 01:57:50Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Recently I've been hearing people using the water main lineup, and I was thinking..."How can I become this level of aids to the community?" Currently the lineup I have Is Sakura, Kakashi, Sasuke and the lightning main. I manage to get a 7 hit combo off every round. Is that cancerous enough?


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On 2017-08-18 02:44:25Show this Author Only
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Being cancerous has nothing to do with how many combos you can get but how annoying your team can be for the opponent. Usually a cancer team mainly applies to water or earth team. There's two types of cancer team for water main. The immortal water team focuses on making sure heals always happen. The top-tier teams usually have roshi, tsunade hokage, han, sailor sakura, and a couple of other ninjas that would work in these types of teams. The water blitz team that has mei, mabui, and gnw tenten is popular, especially for f2p, because it's easy to build compared to other p2w teams, each turn you can deliver high damage, and you'll face a lot of this type of team lvl 70+ cross server events.


I assume you just started playing since you are using a team that is expected for someone to start with. Just plan out what main you want to play with and save your seal scrolls for kage treasure so you can begin building a team.





This post was last edited by Danzō on 2017-08-18 03:02:17.
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On 2017-08-18 03:07:20Show this Author Only
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  • Danzō On 2017-08-18 02:44:25
  • Being cancerous has nothing to do with how many combos you can get but how annoying your team can be for the opponent. Usually a cancer team mainly applies to water or earth team. There's two types of cancer team for water main. The immortal water team focuses on making sure heals always happen. The top-tier teams usually have roshi, tsunade hokage, han, sailor sakura, and a couple of other ninjas that would work in these types of teams. The water blitz team that has mei, mabui, and gnw tenten is popular, especially for f2p, because it's easy to build compared to other p2w teams, each turn you can deliver high damage, and you'll face a lot of this type of team lvl 70+ cross server events.


    I assume you just started playing since you are using a team that is expected for someone to start with. Just plan out what main you want to play with and save your seal scrolls for kage treasure so you can begin building a team.


"Being cancerous has nothing to do with how many combos you can get but how annoying your team can be for the opponent"

Wouldn't that include every fire team ever?


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On 2017-08-18 04:11:13Show this Author Only
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  • Sarpedón On 2017-08-18 03:07:20
  • "Being cancerous has nothing to do with how many combos you can get but how annoying your team can be for the opponent"

    Wouldn't that include every fire team ever?


Generally speaking, there are three things that can make a team annoying beyond belief:

1. The fight last FOREVER, if neither side is significantly stronger than others. Win or lose, if every fight take the full 10 round instead of the regular 3-5, it's going to get annoying. This is especially true in sage world battlefield where time is of the essence. Water and Earth are usually the "problem" here, as water can heal lots and earth can shield lots.

2. Non-interactive. This is where pretty much nothing you do significantly impact the outcome of the battle. Again, whether you win or lose in the end is not the important part, but it's about how the battle plays out. Water immortal, for example, have so many heal+cleanse that you can't really cc them. So all you can do, essentially is pile damage on them while they heal. By the same token, Earth team with gakido and jigokudo c*so be quite annoying due to debuff limitations. Fire main can be somewhat annoying in this aspect as they can make some full CC or counter-CC teams.

3. Relatively overpowered. To be exact, this doesn't mean that the team is annoying because it's strong. But rather that it is strong enough that everyone use it. This is where the term cancer come about, the fact that it spreads quickly. As it were, many of such teams also share point #2, as a team that cannot be counter-acted is more likely to succeed whereas a team that is easily taken apart would fail frequently no matter how strong it can be theoretically speaking.


So no, fire teams aren't cancer right now. There aren't any common builds and only a few fit #2 and none of them #1. In the days of yore, Earth was the most annoying despite fire is the strongest, because of #1--there are Earth team that last 10 rounds almost every time. Right now, the chief cancer is water immortal, mabuti-tenten-mei and RoW. RoW is phasing out and is not as bad due to it is not type 1, but it is very much type 2 and thus gets on people's nerves nevertheless. (Current RoW users are mostly DPH users, so that causes grief in and of itself.

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On 2017-08-18 04:48:38Show this Author Only
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Yeah I agree with you on the first point, the worst offenders are the immortal teams you can't really hurt until the fight ends.. but Annoyance wise. I tend to despise the fire main with the debuff spamming more than anything else. I rather be poisoned to death by a water main. than having to fight a fire main that can do whatever he wants. debuffing you and still reflecting whatever you do back at you for the lulz.

Maybe not the meta cancer team right now. but fire main is still quite cancerous.

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On 2017-08-18 06:05:42Show this Author Only
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Well praiseluka gave you the explanation on what is a cancer team. It's either unkillable due to triple healing/barrier+debuff or it is a team that 50% of the player base use since it is strong and easily accessible.


Bottom line however is to not care about wether your team is cancerous or not and play the game using the lineup you want. If it's annoying to others but you enjoy it then s*cks to be them. Don't let other players opinions or remarks compromise your experience of the game.

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On 2017-08-18 12:51:28Show this Author Only
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I remember in arena I ran a team (doing dailies)

I need a ninja that causes Sleep

I need a ninja that causes Immobile

So I was Fire Main at the time, and I threw in Tayuya, Shikamaru and cause I had GNW Ino I threw her in there too...after 3 rounds of constant CC my opponent in arena literally rage quit.

Think I reached Cancer status that day.

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On 2017-08-18 14:50:24Show this Author Only
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  • PraiseLuka On 2017-08-18 04:11:13
  • Generally speaking, there are three things that can make a team annoying beyond belief:

    1. The fight last FOREVER, if neither side is significantly stronger than others. Win or lose, if every fight take the full 10 round instead of the regular 3-5, it's going to get annoying. This is especially true in sage world battlefield where time is of the essence. Water and Earth are usually the "problem" here, as water can heal lots and earth can shield lots.

    2. Non-interactive. This is where pretty much nothing you do significantly impact the outcome of the battle. Again, whether you win or lose in the end is not the important part, but it's about how the battle plays out. Water immortal, for example, have so many heal+cleanse that you can't really cc them. So all you can do, essentially is pile damage on them while they heal. By the same token, Earth team with gakido and jigokudo c*so be quite annoying due to debuff limitations. Fire main can be somewhat annoying in this aspect as they can make some full CC or counter-CC teams.

    3. Relatively overpowered. To be exact, this doesn't mean that the team is annoying because it's strong. But rather that it is strong enough that everyone use it. This is where the term cancer come about, the fact that it spreads quickly. As it were, many of such teams also share point #2, as a team that cannot be counter-acted is more likely to succeed whereas a team that is easily taken apart would fail frequently no matter how strong it can be theoretically speaking.


    So no, fire teams aren't cancer right now. There aren't any common builds and only a few fit #2 and none of them #1. In the days of yore, Earth was the most annoying despite fire is the strongest, because of #1--there are Earth team that last 10 rounds almost every time. Right now, the chief cancer is water immortal, mabuti-tenten-mei and RoW. RoW is phasing out and is not as bad due to it is not type 1, but it is very much type 2 and thus gets on people's nerves nevertheless. (Current RoW users are mostly DPH users, so that causes grief in and of itself.

Well said Aramand, however i have a further point to add.


Cancer is curable now, but let's assume it is not. So cancer being cancer means that you will die in the end, in this case you will lose in the end no matter how you play.

In addition, cancer usually takes a long time to kill so thats up to 10 rounds of waiting to die lol.

I honestly feel this only applies to 3ple heal teams (to a lesser extent double heal roshi) and earth who try to drag out a long game and beat you through attrition. Other blitz teams are just fotm which will change when metas change, but the 3ple heal and earth teams' strategy do not change even if the ninjas are different.


That's the true concept behind cancer imo.

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On 2017-08-18 22:17:43Show this Author Only
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The definition of "cancerous team" is basically sailor sakura, water with poison and healing buff.

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On 2017-08-19 01:52:11Show this Author Only
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i'm currently using Roshi, Han, Sailor Sakura, Azure Fang with healing tips and poison tai lineup, works pretty good and is the reason why the old RoW or Blitz teams MB used to run are going to disappear since they don't stand a chance neither with 20k more power than the enemy. You can consider that team the actual version of the cancerous team.
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On 2017-08-19 05:08:07Show this Author Only
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Cancer = how annoying you are, generally.

Currently running fire main, Itachi Susano'o, Masked Man, and Danzo. Switch GNW Ino in for Danzo if the opponent runs Roshi. <~mega cancer, everyone hates it and it's incredibly annoying to go up against.

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On 2017-08-22 02:45:21Show this Author Only
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  • Danzō On 2017-08-18 02:44:25
  • Being cancerous has nothing to do with how many combos you can get but how annoying your team can be for the opponent. Usually a cancer team mainly applies to water or earth team. There's two types of cancer team for water main. The immortal water team focuses on making sure heals always happen. The top-tier teams usually have roshi, tsunade hokage, han, sailor sakura, and a couple of other ninjas that would work in these types of teams. The water blitz team that has mei, mabui, and gnw tenten is popular, especially for f2p, because it's easy to build compared to other p2w teams, each turn you can deliver high damage, and you'll face a lot of this type of team lvl 70+ cross server events.


    I assume you just started playing since you are using a team that is expected for someone to start with. Just plan out what main you want to play with and save your seal scrolls for kage treasure so you can begin building a team.


what earth cancer team? I thought earth was dead since 2.0

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On 2017-08-22 03:15:57Show this Author Only
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  • Attac an Respec On 2017-08-22 02:45:21
  • what earth cancer team? I thought earth was dead since 2.0

U need ninetails+Hanzo strong enough :P

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On 2017-08-22 07:52:15Show this Author Only
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  • Attac an Respec On 2017-08-22 02:45:21
  • what earth cancer team? I thought earth was dead since 2.0

You gotta be p2w for you to have an earth cancer team.

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On 2017-08-22 08:31:11Show this Author Only
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  • Danzō On 2017-08-22 07:52:15
  • You gotta be p2w for you to have an earth cancer team.

Nahhh not exactly. I've been playing Earth recently. I am starting to like him more than water now.

I play Earth with Roshi, Sailor and Gakido and run 22412 OR 22432, Monkey King, Ghost page.

Or 22232 Summon Dog.

Once Earth and Roshi have enough stacking by Round 3 they should clean the enemy team.

Love to vs GNW Tenten team. !!!

Sailor is not close to p2w, cos i got her on 40% off from Treasure long ago for less than 3k cps.





This post was last edited by Broken Screen on 2017-08-22 09:52:45.
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On 2017-08-22 14:42:35Show this Author Only
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If you have masked man , you can lock sailor sakura and control water main using danzo.After that ,you can finish off 1 healer. You c*e the same tactic on, mabui,mei,tenten team. Ao and LM's acupuncture might work.





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On 2017-08-22 17:39:51Show this Author Only
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what about fire main ino shikamaru and GNW kiba team?this team is very annoying,if used correctly.putted 3 ninjas in chaos and 1 in sleeping/immobile while testing at arena.so this team can be cancerous?

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On 2017-08-22 21:21:00Show this Author Only
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  • sinoaburai On 2017-08-22 17:39:51
  • what about fire main ino shikamaru and GNW kiba team?this team is very annoying,if used correctly.putted 3 ninjas in chaos and 1 in sleeping/immobile while testing at arena.so this team can be cancerous?

It would be annoying in 1.0 or at a certain level range (30-59). However, past level 70 or even past 60, that team is not cancerous since you have access to better ninjas to form teams.





This post was last edited by Danzō on 2017-08-22 21:21:20.
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On 2017-08-23 16:43:47Show this Author Only
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I'm running Han, Sailor Sakura, Roshi, and Water main. (might switch roshi for gakido)

Was thinking about slowing down the client's speed and throttling my internet connection for SWB, then attack blitz teams..


Let the cancer spread.





This post was last edited by gotoo on 2017-08-23 16:44:57.
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On 2017-08-23 21:07:13Show this Author Only
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so cancerous is being able to withdraw painful attacks from other people strong and their teams for example blitz and iginited. A good cancer teams need 3 max healers or if your good enoguh 2 however they have to be helaers who are used very frequently..Such as sailor kabuto then after this you need a damage dealer such as kimi or someone like him. so then you make a team like sailor kabuto kimi with water main.

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