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On 2017-08-13 08:18:28Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Yep, someone had to do this, what's up with the sudden change to 3 fields in, what seems to be the final fight?

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On 2017-08-13 08:19:34Show this Author Only
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I was thinking maybe they did this for the less populated servers.

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On 2017-08-13 08:21:28Show this Author Only
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Hello~


The admins are checking into this. I will get back to you once official answers will be given.

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On 2017-08-13 08:23:33Show this Author Only
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  • Exvius On 2017-08-13 08:21:28
  • Hello~


    The admins are checking into this. I will get back to you once official answers will be given.

Okay, Thanks! I thought it was just because my main server is pretty dead, and it's S18, but when I saw round 2 of 2 other servers, both merged, had this, I got su*ious,

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On 2017-08-13 12:45:51Show this Author Only
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As far as I can tell it seems to be a global change. Unfortunately imo it takes a decent amt. of strategy out of War placement and stuff.


Now all you need to do is stack two lands and pray for the best.

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On 2017-08-14 10:10:08Show this Author Only
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Wait, can you explain what was changed? Are you saying that they changed how many points each field is worth towards winning?

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On 2017-08-14 15:32:25Show this Author Only
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  • Karolus Magnus On 2017-08-14 10:10:08
  • Wait, can you explain what was changed? Are you saying that they changed how many points each field is worth towards winning?

The number of fields was reduced from 6 to 3. In our case, we only had battlefields 10, 7, and 8.


@Topic, they're still checking.

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On 2017-08-14 16:35:08Show this Author Only
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So, we got this response now: "Dear Ninjas,

We'd like to inform you on the new rules on "Great Ninja War". The amount of battlefields open in Great Ninja War are related to the amount of participants. When participants are fewer, the number of battlefields will also be adjusted and less battlefields will open (this process depends on the number of participants of the last 3 weeks).

Naruto Online Support Team"

Ok. Now, would be awesome if we were informed about things like this before such changes are add to game. I mean- it kinda does look like people working on this game in this version have no idea what each patch contain o.ó

Prove me wrong: it was the same with group summons, that just happened to pop up in game with one patch and nobody had idea about it.



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On 2017-08-14 16:58:36Show this Author Only
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  • Tiami On 2017-08-14 16:35:08
  • So, we got this response now: "Dear Ninjas,

    We'd like to inform you on the new rules on "Great Ninja War". The amount of battlefields open in Great Ninja War are related to the amount of participants. When participants are fewer, the number of battlefields will also be adjusted and less battlefields will open (this process depends on the number of participants of the last 3 weeks).

    Naruto Online Support Team"

    Ok. Now, would be awesome if we were informed about things like this before such changes are add to game. I mean- it kinda does look like people working on this game in this version have no idea what each patch contain o.ó

    Prove me wrong: it was the same with group summons, that just happened to pop up in game with one patch and nobody had idea about it.



That's because they don't. If Tencent gives them something in patch, and forgets to mention they did, Oasis doesn't know that such a change was made, unless it comes up during testing.





This post was last edited by TakafumiNaito on 2017-08-14 16:58:53.
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On 2017-08-14 17:54:49Show this Author Only
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How do the changes affect group coins distribution? Still base 700 + 100 per won land, up to 1000 total?

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On 2017-08-14 18:56:56Show this Author Only
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  • Zathroth On 2017-08-14 17:54:49
  • How do the changes affect group coins distribution? Still base 700 + 100 per won land, up to 1000 total?

What you talking about? It's always been 1k flat for winner.

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On 2017-08-14 20:02:08Show this Author Only
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  • PraiseLuka On 2017-08-14 18:56:56
  • What you talking about? It's always been 1k flat for winner.

There are 2 groups during a specific round, and on smaller servers its usually high discrepancy in power between them, nonetheless both groups could get 1k coins if communicated properly. I honestly doubt that if you could collect all active players from unmerged server into 1 group, you'd get required 27 players. That's why I'm asking if old coin system stays the same- if yes, then 1k coins for both sides is no longer an option, another discentive towards players.





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On 2017-08-14 21:23:09Show this Author Only
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Let's face it, this change was made for small or dead servers with population issues.


Just like Zathroth above mentioned, alot of players are farming group coins by cooperating and avoiding fights in GNW. The weaker group is resigned to losing GNW but they can still get their group coins by winning their field. In other words, dominant group takes fields on the top row and the weak group can take the fields on the bottom row.


What I don't get is why doesn't Oasis just fix the server population issue instead of fixing this player behavior. After this change, there's no difference as dominant group will just take 10 and 8 while weak group takes 7. Just a slap in the players face again sigh..

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On 2017-08-14 21:25:29Show this Author Only
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  • PraiseLuka On 2017-08-14 18:56:56
  • What you talking about? It's always been 1k flat for winner.

PraiseLuka, you are rarely wrong but on this occasion you are. I get 900 coins usually for winning and it makes sense because we usually only win 2 fields.

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On 2017-08-14 22:42:35Show this Author Only
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Well make 27ppl show in wars and u good to go nothing changes, it seems with less than 27ppl u will have just 3 lands

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On 2017-08-14 23:43:54Show this Author Only
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27 people in an old server for GNW? yea that is not gonna happen.


Although this change it benefitial to my group, it is the final nail in the coffien of the weaker of the 2-3 groups participating in GNW.

Before, since we do not have many active players we had to gamble on where would the strong members of the opposing group would be. If we were unlucky and since the opposing group had more members, they oculd beat us since we could only fully secure 1 - 2 battlefields and add a wild card battlefield that could loose as well as some very weak member in a couple of the others. Now we can secure 2 battlefields and abandon the last essentially winning every time.


In other words, before having a larger number of members, even if they were not in the top 10, could win you GNW if the opposing group had few players. Now the group that has the most top 5 players in their ranks will win the war every time.


I dont know if this change is good or bad, even on low populated servers like UK407 who really need a merge


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On 2017-08-15 00:15:27Show this Author Only
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So to my understanding, the larger groups have to fight 3 fields against smaller groups? Seems a bit unfair...imo, to start it's these small patches that kill off a game... gg oasis in making the game even more dumb.

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On 2017-08-15 00:28:35Show this Author Only
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To their defense, i do not think this comes from Oasis but from Tencent.


It would be interesting to know if this is also the case in the german version of the game.

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On 2017-08-15 00:36:54Show this Author Only
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My question still stand, my group is big, and do we have to fight 3 fields vs smaller groups now? Kind dumb but whatever, idc what u call it "balance" or whatever, to me, it's stabbing the game till it dies.

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On 2017-08-15 01:27:10Show this Author Only
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  • Armand__ On 2017-08-14 23:43:54
  • 27 people in an old server for GNW? yea that is not gonna happen.


    Although this change it benefitial to my group, it is the final nail in the coffien of the weaker of the 2-3 groups participating in GNW.

    Before, since we do not have many active players we had to gamble on where would the strong members of the opposing group would be. If we were unlucky and since the opposing group had more members, they oculd beat us since we could only fully secure 1 - 2 battlefields and add a wild card battlefield that could loose as well as some very weak member in a couple of the others. Now we can secure 2 battlefields and abandon the last essentially winning every time.


    In other words, before having a larger number of members, even if they were not in the top 10, could win you GNW if the opposing group had few players. Now the group that has the most top 5 players in their ranks will win the war every time.


    I dont know if this change is good or bad, even on low populated servers like UK407 who really need a merge


This is the case for my group, we have been winning wars with numbers and strategy against all the top players who all joined the same group. 5 or so ppl really spent money I'm talking thousands and they all ended up in the same group but lose 90% of the time. With the new war they can now focus 2/3 fields and possibly win every war since its hard fighting 10-20k higher power than our strongest people.

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