tobi hinata fire team has alot of debuffs and karin can remove them all in one round, and since fire main goes b4 wind main wind gets sealed/prisoned/ignited every time until dead even if karin dispels seal, imprison will get ur main killed by aoe next round.

then without an initiator fire just picks off ur team while u hope for a combo to start.

as a fire main i love seeing empress teams because they are a free win since they cant hit hard if they dont hit first.

clones counter sleep but dragon one shots them if they have no shields, wind main needs lucky draws for ninjas(or lots of money for draws) to be able to beat a fire seal team since they basic ones dont help.

iruka, gaara, pb sasuke, konan, pain, c*l help u out alot with shields and cc to keep u alive and surviving that first combo so u can counterattack