Refine is more important than ninjas...if you have a good team with 7+ combo is fine
Don't spend coupons on seal/tendo treasure... you can have those ninjas in future on merchant
We have mood right now...buy from shop Mood scroll pack and upgrade your ninjas attributes

Good point on the merchant. I almost forgot about that in the midst of looking at those seal scrolls. xD
So, refining and mood scrolls, right?
How about magatamas though?
In the level high 50s to 60s, what level magas should I have?

Only use coupons for magatamas, refining, and mood scrolls.

Should I just spend them as I get them to achieve max power ASAP?
I have 1,700 coupons to spend on those three things. . not really sure how to distribute them. . .
And I can't really be exact anyway, since refining is based on rng . . .

I think you need to prioritize based on your current needs.

Once I get around lvl 3ish magatamas on my ninjas, I focus on refining and a bit on mood scrolls.

Imho, I would prioritize on magatamas, refining, then mood scrolls.
In my experience, I've spent most of my coupons on magatamas and refining. Mood scrolls are a bit new atm, so I'm only spending a little bit on it.

Also, refining is extremely expensive so make sure to spend your coupons at your own discretion.
This post was last edited by Godsu* at 2016-8-20 09:41

Magatamas first, eh?
I would have thought that refining would be more important.
I mean, it's almost like whoever moves first wins because you can just nuke the enemy's squishy damage dealer (Kakashi, Sasuke, etc.).

Maybe I'll try to only top up on low level refining? I won't touch medium refine runes yet.
Then, I'll try to spend some coupons on magatamas. How does that sound?

Also, for magatamas, should I buy the rest of the level 3s, or should I just farm/craft them and head straight for level 4 magatamas? The offensive level 4s cost 135 while the defensive ones cost 108, so they are a bit more on the pricy side compared to the lower leveled ones.

And yeah, the mod system is still extremely new, so it's no surprise that it's coupon-only right now.
It allows people to spend coupons to take advantage of this early.
Thus, I'm assuming that we'll be able to gather them through other means in the future without paying coupons . . .So I'll tag that as a lower priority.

And maaaaybe I'll spend some coupons to treat myself to a seal scroll or summoning scroll >_> hehe

Although, I heard something about future clothes?
Do you know anything about that? Do they cost coupons or have stat bonuses?

Magatamas were priority for me because they were the only thing worthwhile to purchase with coupons before I hit lvl 40+, so naturally I invested the majority of my coupons on those shiny jades.

Refining is great but can be extremely expensive like I mentioned, so I would only buy enough to secure at least lvl 1 refining on your main toons that need them.

Regarding which lvl magatamas to get, I would only buy lvl 2's and lvl them as you go from the random maga drops from instances - lvl 4's are way too expensive.

No idea about future clothes and what not.

Do note that Refining can be a waste as well. Going first isn't always the optimal play and Water mains tend to play reactive style. Kakashi is in position 3 so anyone like Neji or Midnight Blade who are usually in position 1 or 2 will go before he does even if you boost your refining. Refining can be important but there are ways to get your jutsu in with good timing instead of refining stats. That said, crit chance and combos are also refining dependent so up to you how many coupons you want to waste on RNG.

Mood however is a huge help that is guaranteed. Your water ninja with a few mood scrolls can boost her ninjutsu by 30% and be healing like crazy and nuking things left and right. Or if Kakashi constantly dies then consider boosting his Resistance or Life by 30% to make him more durable. Moods go beyond 30% but that's an affordable goal.

I'm using Water Main for an offensive purpose with Poison Tai, Flowing Whip, Water Dragon, and Super Shark Bomb. . . I'm thinking about possibly making Water into a healer and replacing Kabuto or something . .but eh.
So that's why I tend to really want to go first to activate my Super Shark Bomb and get those combos up to apply ignition/paralysis/acupuncture.

Also, really?
So lets say my Kakashi is in position three, and an enemy Kakashi is in position two, and they both use their mystery skills.
Are you saying that the enemy Kakashi will always pull off his mystery skill first regardless of initiative because he is in position two and my Kakashi is in position three?
Or does initiative matter at that point, and you're just talking about standard attack?

And, yeah . .I can understand how refining can be a waste.
I've heard nightmare stories on 39/40 or something . . Yikes!
However, right now we do have the Refine Rebate events thing in the Hot Topics. . .right?
So do you think that this would be the most ideal time to refine?
And I'm only thinking about (almost) topping up on just low refine runes. . So that shouldn't be too bad, right?

Yeah . .Mood is definitely interesting. . .
I remember reading one of your posts and you said how this game isn't about defense. .something like that? And I did agree with it because. .well .. whoever gets nuked and ignited/paralyzed/acupunctured . . is pretty much a goner. Lol. My Kabuto can only cure one of those things. Lol.
So I figured that going offensive with high initiative would have been the solution . . Eh . .

For Azure Fang, I was definitely thinking about going towards +ninjutsu, and probably - attack.
Kakashi? Don't know about him . . . I feel like even if he had his resistance up, he'd still be a goner.
Once my enemy combos him (I don't have Lightning's paralysis and speed) with ignition, paralysis, and control . . well he's done. . . Even if he lives to see yet another round, he still can't combo . . And my Kabuto can't cure everything instantaneously.

I think Water Main's healing mystery can cure ALL debuffs, though, right? THAT is starting to sound pretty tempting as well . >_>

"So lets say my Kakashi is in position three, and an enemy Kakashi is in position two, and they both use their mystery skills. Are you saying that the enemy Kakashi will always pull off his mystery skill first regardless of initiative because he is in position two and my Kakashi is in position three? "

Yes, he will always pull off his Jutsu first. Your position supercedes Initiative. That's why interrupts like Iruka and Neji being in the front tend to be awesome while Gai and Shikamaru being in the back tend to be lousy.

Initiative is just a tiebreaker. The game checks the following to determine who goes first...

Priority 1 - Type of Attack - Prompt Jutsu always go before Standard Jutsu
Priority 2 - Position Rank - Ninjas act in number order, move your ninjas up to go faster
Priority 3 - Initiative Stat - The last thing that matters and a tiebreaker for same positions

I'm sure there's something that determines how you act if your initiative is identical. Just don't know what it is.

Also note that in PVE Initiative matters more. The enemy won't act if your initiative beats theirs which is why your entire team will go before them sometimes.

Oh, I see. . . .
I'm assuming that Kakashi, being lightning, has higher initiative then Water Mains, correct? (I'll double check in game later)
So, I'll try to switch my main's and Kakashi's positions and see if that helps. That way, I'll be able to get off a mystery first and apply my ignition/paralysis/acupuncture.

And thank you for listing down the Priority 1, 2, and 3. Helps a ton!

What is PVE Initiative you speak of, however? e.e