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Can Somebody Help me how speed works i already read about position if you position your ninja to 1 you attack 1st.. but i always put my MC at position 1 but i dont understand why is it my opponent is always faster than me even if i put my main to position 1 can someone help me how speed works on this game is maganta upgrade equip help you boost speed cuz even if my opponent is 4 lvl lower then me they still attack 1st that make me so annoy..
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On 2016-08-19 23:53:58Show this Author Only
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Refining stats is the tiebreaker when two people in the same position are acting at the same time.

Initiative specifically is what helps your speed. So buy refining scrolls and boost your gear.

Also, make sure the jutsu you are using is Prompt because Prompt jutsu will always go before non-Prompt ones.
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On 2016-08-20 00:01:46Show this Author Only
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  • Kyutaru On 2016-08-19 23:53:58
  • Refining stats is the tiebreaker when two people in the same position are acting at the same time.

    Initiative specifically is what helps your speed. So buy refining scrolls and boost your gear.

    Also, make sure the jutsu you are using is Prompt because Prompt jutsu will always go before non-Prompt ones.
i am lvl 43 and i always put my MC at position 1 so i have refine buff already.. but when i fight below lvl 40 especially on survival i always got annoy cuz they always attack 1st i dont understand .. i Really need to understand how this speed thing really works cuz i want my mc to attack 1st especially when fighting againts lightning mc..
PS: I am using Fire MC

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On 2016-08-20 00:16:39Show this Author Only
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  • i am lvl 43 and i always put my MC at position 1 so i have refine buff already.. but when i fight below lvl 40 especially on survival i always got annoy cuz they always attack 1st i dont understand .. i Really need to understand how this speed thing really works cuz i want my mc to attack 1st especially when fighting againts lightning mc..
    PS: I am using Fire MC

    This post was last edited by 110***@google at 2016-8-20 00:05
Your position is not a refine buff... Refining stats are on your gear. You get access to refinement at level 40. Clearly the people you are fighting have refined their stats to be higher than yours.

I already told you how speed works. Jutsu type matters first, then Position, then Initiative.


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On 2016-08-20 06:40:19Show this Author Only
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  • Kyutaru On 2016-08-20 00:16:39
  • Your position is not a refine buff... Refining stats are on your gear. You get access to refinement at level 40. Clearly the people you are fighting have refined their stats to be higher than yours.

    I already told you how speed works. Jutsu type matters first, then Position, then Initiative.


    This post was last edited by Kyutaru at 2016-8-20 00:20
I know about that and i already lvl up some gear for my main... my question is when i am doing survival lightning mc always use jutsu 1st.The thing is i am lvl 43 and he is like lvl 37.. i have refine boost he has no refine boost but he attack 1st so i dont understand why he use jutsu 1st on me.. i am saying this because i am getting annoy on lightning mc cuz once they use jutsu 1st they CC and i cant kill them fast and end some up some of my ninja low life and i cant finish survival cuz this lightning mc is quicker than me..

so my question is why is my lvl 43 Fire MC is slower than lvl 37 lightning mc? If what you say that refine is the resposible why your faster than him then why is it some MC even if he they are low lvl than u they are faster than you. i wont post this question if this thing didnt happen to me and it always happen to me especially on survival it get me annoy. why is some low lvl MC is quicker than me? dont tell me again about refine cuz i know already about that the thing is why is MC not even lvl 40 and has no refine is quicker than me and i am lvl 40+ the has already refine some of my gear. This post was last edited by 110***@google at 2016-8-20 06:48
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On 2016-08-20 06:48:33Show this Author Only
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If he has less refining stats than you do, he's faster because he's in a higher position than you are. Move your Fire main up so he acts sooner.

In other words, say your formation is Hinata in front, then Gai, then Fire main, then Kabuto on the side next to him... terrible team but just an example. In this scenario, Fire main is in position 3 on the team. So he is SLOWER than people in position 1 or 2. Lightning mains tend to be in spot 1 or 2.

If you are in a similar position to the enemy, the game checks your Initiative to see who goes first. This is where refining makes you faster. But it only applies if you are both in the same position relative to other ninja on your team. Someone can be lower level and still act faster by having more refining than you done or by being in a lead position.

The reason characters like Neji seem to be super fast is because they are always in the front of the team. If you put them in the back they suddenly become slow.
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On 2016-08-20 06:51:16Show this Author Only
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  • Kyutaru On 2016-08-20 06:48:33
  • If he has less refining stats than you do, he's faster because he's in a higher position than you are. Move your Fire main up so he acts sooner.

    In other words, say your formation is Hinata in front, then Gai, then Fire main, then Kabuto on the side next to him... terrible team but just an example. In this scenario, Fire main is in position 3 on the team. So he is SLOWER than people in position 1 or 2. Lightning mains tend to be in spot 1 or 2.

    If you are in a similar position to the enemy, the game checks your Initiative to see who goes first. This is where refining makes you faster. But it only applies if you are both in the same position relative to other ninja on your team. Someone can be lower level and still act faster by having more refining than you done or by being in a lead position.

    The reason characters like Neji seem to be super fast is because they are always in the front of the team. If you put them in the back they suddenly become slow.
    This post was last edited by Kyutaru at 2016-8-20 06:49
can you post a formation 3 star saske 3 star kankuro and 3 star hinata that the line up i am using with fire mc what you think the best formation?.. i always put my Fire MC 1st row top right cuz they say that is the position 1. So i really dont know even if i put my mc there i dont use jutsu 1st i am always 2nd to use it. Fire MC 1st top right row saske middle below my fire mc hinata Middle Middle kankuro behind hinata sometimes i put kankuro behind saske My Position
Kankuro Saske Fire MC 8 Hinata 2
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On 2016-08-20 07:01:52Show this Author Only
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If your Fire main is in position 1 already then it comes down to Initiative. The only ninja that can act before you is someone who is also in position 1 that has higher Initiative than you. So even though the person is low level, they have more refining stats than you do. They spent more coupons refining.
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On 2016-08-20 07:04:44Show this Author Only
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  • Kyutaru On 2016-08-20 07:01:52
  • If your Fire main is in position 1 already then it comes down to Initiative. The only ninja that can act before you is someone who is also in position 1 that has higher Initiative than you. So even though the person is low level, they have more refining stats than you do. They spent more coupons refining.
But the one that i am fighting in survival trial was not even lvl 40 so why does he have good initiative than me.. i am 40+ that already boost my refine gear
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On 2016-08-20 07:17:15Show this Author Only
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  • On 2016-08-20 07:04:44
  • But the one that i am fighting in survival trial was not even lvl 40 so why does he have good initiative than me.. i am 40+ that already boost my refine gear
No idea, survival is weird. These rules are for PVP. In PVE position doesn't matter, it's only initiative that matters and the enemy has a fixed amount of it. Survival has weird hybrid rules.
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On 2016-08-20 07:21:39Show this Author Only
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  • Kyutaru On 2016-08-20 07:17:15
  • No idea, survival is weird. These rules are for PVP. In PVE position doesn't matter, it's only initiative that matters and the enemy has a fixed amount of it. Survival has weird hybrid rules.
ok thx.. sometimes i fight lvl 20 and he is quicker than me.. and also hate facing lighting mc on survival cuz they can pull of a combo a full combo that make your hp half and my ninja low life already before reaching at 11 stage
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