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On 2017-07-31 22:30:04Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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, poison, ignite, immobile,25% more damage to male, WTF, are u serious? Acupunture also *NNN!!!

WHY NOT ADD TAG, BLIND, PARALYZED?





This post was last edited by SetSet777 on 2017-07-31 22:30:04.
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On 2017-07-31 22:42:44Show this Author Only
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Nah they should add 50 procent shields to all elemental ninjas so the Broken water teams with mabui will have 7k shields from begining....the sad part of my joke is that water main in china really does put up shields so God help us. Btw I asked that when they nerfed my Darui ...Qolem said he will ask but dont think they will nerf her.

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On 2017-07-31 23:10:06Show this Author Only
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I think they should rather nerf GNW TenTen tbh or at least add a enter battlelefield cooldown of 1-2 rounds to her mystery... True, Mei seems to have way more utility than any other ninja but i don`t find her dmg to be that high compared to other kage ninjas ... ( honestly my sage naruto 3 stars does more dmg than my 3 star mei both at 25 % mood same awaken / cultivate levels ) ...

Anyway regarding Mei , i would sugest to either take her poison out or the accupuncture from her normal atack so she won`t be such a CC machine anymore. Leaving it with 1 imobile chase ( same as kage gaara ), barrier and increased dmg to males should be more than enough.

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On 2017-07-31 23:29:19Show this Author Only
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  • Max642 On 2017-07-31 23:10:06
  • I think they should rather nerf GNW TenTen tbh or at least add a enter battlelefield cooldown of 1-2 rounds to her mystery... True, Mei seems to have way more utility than any other ninja but i don`t find her dmg to be that high compared to other kage ninjas ... ( honestly my sage naruto 3 stars does more dmg than my 3 star mei both at 25 % mood same awaken / cultivate levels ) ...

    Anyway regarding Mei , i would sugest to either take her poison out or the accupuncture from her normal atack so she won`t be such a CC machine anymore. Leaving it with 1 imobile chase ( same as kage gaara ), barrier and increased dmg to males should be more than enough.

Bro, this is not about damage only, her damage is not that high but with poison ignite at the end of turn she does more damage more than other kages!, and u know water main posion tai make her poison worst right?, and also she control your ninjas in 2 ways (Acupunture and immobile). this is not good, she is more like fire+water for me. The developer just like her and made her broken, the dont care about balance game, just like how they made cancer team more cancerous.

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On 2017-07-31 23:31:27Show this Author Only
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  • SetSet777 On 2017-07-31 23:29:19
  • Bro, this is not about damage only, her damage is not that high but with poison ignite at the end of turn she does more damage more than other kages!, and u know water main posion tai make her poison worst right?, and also she control your ninjas in 2 ways (Acupunture and immobile). this is not good, she is more like fire+water for me. The developer just like her and made her broken, the dont care about balance game, just like how they made cancer team more cancerous.

Bro, that is exactely why i suggested to take out her poison and accupuncture. Next time please try and read trough my entire post before replying. no offence intended.

Now , on a side note, i still think they should first adress Gnw TenTen , since that one is way too strong especially since she is not even a kage and doing way too much dmg, and can do it on turn 1 , and her mystery can apply the maximum stacks of poison when coupled with poison tai ( maximum beeing 4 stacks from my knowledge and her mystery does 5 hits ) . And nerfing TenTen will reduce the extensive amounts of cancerous teams possibly resulting in a les usage of Mei as well until they decide how to change Mei.





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On 2017-07-31 23:39:38Show this Author Only
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  • S.H.I.E.L.D On 2017-07-31 22:42:44
  • Nah they should add 50 procent shields to all elemental ninjas so the Broken water teams with mabui will have 7k shields from begining....the sad part of my joke is that water main in china really does put up shields so God help us. Btw I asked that when they nerfed my Darui ...Qolem said he will ask but dont think they will nerf her.

I'm using Darui also, i confused, why did they nerf him? He is squishy and his barrier additional passive just allow him to attack twice, i mean he needs buff actually tho

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On 2017-07-31 23:47:37Show this Author Only
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  • SetSet777 On 2017-07-31 23:39:38
  • I'm using Darui also, i confused, why did they nerf him? He is squishy and his barrier additional passive just allow him to attack twice, i mean he needs buff actually tho

actually on a fun note , Darui now does more dmg since his skill no longer has water dmg tag and also does more to earth ninjas / characters since it`s pure lightning dmg. But i agree, he needs a slight buff.





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On 2017-08-01 00:18:06Show this Author Only
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Yeah he is better against earth and water but still all he hesd was that...from all of the kages mei is OP...mifune doesn'thave a barrier..onoki has tripple element buff but mystery really low damage,darui-u already know...bee mystery should have non acupuncuter effect too not only interupt, danzo is good with chaos and immobile which is ok- on another note actually danzo HAD to be wind ninja not fire...skill books in china fix that and his barrier buffs wind as well..and kage gaara for his 80 chakra point he has to have immobile in his mystery but nothing...he def needs a buff...regular gaara seems better..chojuro is good but only with darui and lightning main and water..

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On 2017-08-01 00:30:37Show this Author Only
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lol, get high initiative and done!

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On 2017-08-01 01:03:09Show this Author Only
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  • S.H.I.E.L.D On 2017-08-01 00:18:06
  • Yeah he is better against earth and water but still all he hesd was that...from all of the kages mei is OP...mifune doesn'thave a barrier..onoki has tripple element buff but mystery really low damage,darui-u already know...bee mystery should have non acupuncuter effect too not only interupt, danzo is good with chaos and immobile which is ok- on another note actually danzo HAD to be wind ninja not fire...skill books in china fix that and his barrier buffs wind as well..and kage gaara for his 80 chakra point he has to have immobile in his mystery but nothing...he def needs a buff...regular gaara seems better..chojuro is good but only with darui and lightning main and water..

Actually , kage gaara is better than normal gaara because he has immobile on his CHASE , not on his mystery .

Same as Mei has imobile chase, Danzo has imobile chase ,same as Ohnoki has 2 x atack , mifune and darui also have 2x atack , same as ohnoki can intrerupt a skill with his AA , Mei can accupuncture with her AA , same as Danzo does a debuff (chaos) before a action Mei does a debuff ( poison ) before a action . Do you see the patterns ?

So , since Mei seems to fall in way more patterns than the others i sugested to take out either her poison or her accupuncture , and leave rest as it is , otherwise she would become far too weak.

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On 2017-08-01 01:42:28Show this Author Only
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nerf darui but not mei.....i may leave soon

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On 2017-08-01 02:27:14Show this Author Only
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It's not really needed to nerf Mei, seriously. I fought someone today with earth main using kage Gaara, Ohnoki and Sage Naruto and lost (I'm water with the, if I listen to nearly everyone on this forum, way op Mabui, Mei, GNW Tenten team). I'm 4 levels higher, 8k more power and lost. I can't use any other team really because unlike nearly everyone in my server I never got any of the other rare ninja. If they nerf Mei, I won't stand a chance anywhere anymore. Already unable to play SWB, Matsuri and Arena just because I can't ever win even 1 fight due to p2p teams. Btw it's not my inexperience or anything, been playing for half a year, though tbf I'm definitely not a good player, it's just that for some people having Mei like this is best as some of us just aren't lucky enough to otherwise be able to participate, most of the top players in my server even stopped using her.





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On 2017-08-01 03:13:28Show this Author Only
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  • Minato[PowerOfH On 2017-08-01 02:27:14
  • It's not really needed to nerf Mei, seriously. I fought someone today with earth main using kage Gaara, Ohnoki and Sage Naruto and lost (I'm water with the, if I listen to nearly everyone on this forum, way op Mabui, Mei, GNW Tenten team). I'm 4 levels higher, 8k more power and lost. I can't use any other team really because unlike nearly everyone in my server I never got any of the other rare ninja. If they nerf Mei, I won't stand a chance anywhere anymore. Already unable to play SWB, Matsuri and Arena just because I can't ever win even 1 fight due to p2p teams. Btw it's not my inexperience or anything, been playing for half a year, though tbf I'm definitely not a good player, it's just that for some people having Mei like this is best as some of us just aren't lucky enough to otherwise be able to participate, most of the top players in my server even stopped using her.


Oh man, how about Darui users? Darui got nerf, how if they are like u that dont have any kage rare beside Darui?

You defended her because u have Mei and u were not fair to Darui users with that opinion.

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On 2017-08-01 03:26:05Show this Author Only
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U say u lost but u were stronger...if ur barier was up and you still lose the fight its you its not the other player ninja...because if u have more initiative ud blast him with tenten and use mei second round first cause ur faster if ur mei is on the last row ull use mabui to iterrupt his mystery with meia chase....mei is really overpowered...and that has to change because if other kages were buffed ud see tsunade healing all at once and1 punch deals half life to a ninja same as Ay...Ay should be able to dogde as hell but he doesn't....onoki mystery should be overpowered and erasing ninjas but its pathetic and weak...kage gaara for that 80 chakra should do 2 immobiles on his myatery but no he doesnt...mifune should have had earth/lighting barier but hey his just a samurai he is buffed already...danzo should have had wind attacks...his barier later on gives buff to wind but very later on...chojuro same as mifune buffed...darui has lightning panter and gale style I think he got nerfed cause now he cant fight fire or wind effectively...buffed against earth and water but still...he should deal more damage but his not taijutsu why the hell ia that big sword anyway..anyway having poison,ignition,accupuncture, broken mysteries and 2 healers on top of that shielded and still lose...its ur vault not ur broken water team.

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On 2017-08-01 03:43:01Show this Author Only
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Okay, sorry if I didn't word things well, no need to start attacking, come on, I admit I'm not a great player at all and I don't care as I try to enjoy the game for what it is. Which is what everyone should try to do in my opinion, of course giving proper feedback to Oasis is good and all but whining and complaining is not feedback. True she might be op, some other ninja are as well though, but seeing at least 3 topics pop up about how she is op and should be nerfed etc. is a bit much. I won't bother to defend her either as I use her for a reason, so I at least stand a chance somewhere. But with a bit of creativeness and a better initiative it's still possible to easily defeat the op water team, which is why I barely see any top players still use her. Sorry if I kind of worded things wrong or sounded too defensive I'm just trying to state things as I see them and got a bit annoyed by going around the forum and only seeing complains like this.

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On 2017-08-01 04:38:41Show this Author Only
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  • Minato[PowerOfH On 2017-08-01 03:43:01
  • Okay, sorry if I didn't word things well, no need to start attacking, come on, I admit I'm not a great player at all and I don't care as I try to enjoy the game for what it is. Which is what everyone should try to do in my opinion, of course giving proper feedback to Oasis is good and all but whining and complaining is not feedback. True she might be op, some other ninja are as well though, but seeing at least 3 topics pop up about how she is op and should be nerfed etc. is a bit much. I won't bother to defend her either as I use her for a reason, so I at least stand a chance somewhere. But with a bit of creativeness and a better initiative it's still possible to easily defeat the op water team, which is why I barely see any top players still use her. Sorry if I kind of worded things wrong or sounded too defensive I'm just trying to state things as I see them and got a bit annoyed by going around the forum and only seeing complains like this.

Well, look at that , even you finally admitted she is OP. Then in all honesty, you shouldn`t be bothered if people make threads asking whether she will be nerfed or not, and if u look at some posts, we even gave suggestions on how she can be nerfed so there is a balance between kages as it should be. Now, what would u call that if not feedback ? No offence intended.

@ S.H.I.E.L.D. - actually darui can still be effective vs fire since his water wall chase is still there , and his barrier still buffs water ninjas , so all u have to do is just use darui maybe in conjuction with 1 more water ninja if u want alot of water dmg versus fire , and FYI most water ninjas are also sword users ...





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On 2017-08-01 04:44:53Show this Author Only
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Her poison is fine, it's a barrier dependent perk, which most auto-barrier ninja have. i think only onoki doesn't his barrier covers an extra element, so I guess they consider that balanced out.

Her mystery is also fine. It deals rather low damage for its cost even against male ninjas(@ppl crying about onoki mystery damage, it cost 40, what do you expect?). Only if the ignition *s does it actually do above par damage. And since ignition can be cleansed, it's not strictly better than normal. (yes, ignition blocks heal, so in case of heal based cleanse, it's still good. But gakido etc pure cleanse are a thing too and pretty much ruins mei's mystery)

I'd say the only thing overkill about her is the acupuncture. That does feel a bit out of no where. Thou to be fair it frequently doesn't do much--even if it lands, since as an initiator she is usually placed in 1st or second position whereas most team's healer(and thus cleanser) are in 3rd and/or 4th position, it actually rarely *s.


I think it would be fair to replace her normal attack with regular tiajutsu attack,something that generates no debuff and causes low float instead of knockdown. Most kage have a weakness, Onoki doesn't generate debuff except body removal which is useless most of the time. Gaara with his super high cost mystery. Mifune doesn't have a barrier. I think it would be fair if Mei's weakness is that she doesn't chase her own attacks, which is already true for her mystery but she can chase her normal attack right now.

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On 2017-08-01 04:51:07Show this Author Only
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  • PraiseLuka On 2017-08-01 04:44:53
  • Her poison is fine, it's a barrier dependent perk, which most auto-barrier ninja have. i think only onoki doesn't his barrier covers an extra element, so I guess they consider that balanced out.

    Her mystery is also fine. It deals rather low damage for its cost even against male ninjas(@ppl crying about onoki mystery damage, it cost 40, what do you expect?). Only if the ignition *s does it actually do above par damage. And since ignition can be cleansed, it's not strictly better than normal. (yes, ignition blocks heal, so in case of heal based cleanse, it's still good. But gakido etc pure cleanse are a thing too and pretty much ruins mei's mystery)

    I'd say the only thing overkill about her is the acupuncture. That does feel a bit out of no where. Thou to be fair it frequently doesn't do much--even if it lands, since as an initiator she is usually placed in 1st or second position whereas most team's healer(and thus cleanser) are in 3rd and/or 4th position, it actually rarely *s.


    I think it would be fair to replace her normal attack with regular tiajutsu attack,something that generates no debuff and causes low float instead of knockdown. Most kage have a weakness, Onoki doesn't generate debuff except body removal which is useless most of the time. Gaara with his super high cost mystery. Mifune doesn't have a barrier. I think it would be fair if Mei's weakness is that she doesn't chase her own attacks, which is already true for her mystery but she can chase her normal attack right now.

i would like to correct you on one point , ohnoki can intrerupt skills with his normal atack ( if it lands , but u can get that back-ache so it`s not certain ) .

Besides that , really nice and well done *isys. Another possible modification could be to take out the taijutsu tag from her standard atack as well, so she can`t apply poison tag with that besides taking away the accupuncture from it.





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On 2017-08-01 06:01:44Show this Author Only
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  • Max642 On 2017-08-01 04:51:07
  • i would like to correct you on one point , ohnoki can intrerupt skills with his normal atack ( if it lands , but u can get that back-ache so it`s not certain ) .

    Besides that , really nice and well done *isys. Another possible modification could be to take out the taijutsu tag from her standard atack as well, so she can`t apply poison tag with that besides taking away the accupuncture from it.


Interrupt is not a debuff, I was careful in my terminology saying no debuff as opposed to no special effects.

And frankly, interrupt on a normal attack is almost guaranteed to be useless in live combat only punishing the laggy and nooby, and only rarely end up being useful in auto-battles. It's honestly one of the most useless effects in the game, so it doesn't really impact the evaluation too much.


As for the tai tag. I know the intend is to nerf that aspect for WATER mains. But it would nerf mei in general as there are ninjas that are immune to ninjtusu damage. As a wind main who uses mei, I feel like collateral damage XD.

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On 2017-08-01 06:14:24Show this Author Only
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lol another idiot post about nerfing,


normal gaara will get immobile on chase in his skillbreakthrough (for the person up there who says kage is better than normal) he will get additional def and change in his standard I think

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