Maybe you're mistaken. From what I've read, you believe that the positioning of the ninjas matter (ie if they are in the first row, second row etc) But that isn't true. The first thing to take into account when deciding who goes first is based on the ninja's position relative to other ninjas in your team. When you look into your Ninja tab, You will see your ninjas having a Position 1, Position 2, Position 3, Position 4 above their name. Between you and your opponent, your Position 2 ninja will never move before your opponent's Position 1 ninja when both of you cast a mystery at the same time. (Unless the mystery is not prompt for your opponent) The only instance initiative comes into play is when both Position 2 ninjas from both you and your opponent decides to use a mystery. This is when having the higher initiative comes into play and you will move first in this instance.

From this, you can see that it doesn't matter whether you have your ninjas being in the second row first position etc or not. Hopefully I understood your problem right, based on how you described it?

Hey there,

Positioning in game works as following:

7 4 1

8 5 2

9 6 3

In your lineup, ninja that stands on a tile with lowest number, will almost always move before ninjas that stand on tiles with higher numbers. The only exceptions are caused by debuffs. The 2nd factor is initiative. Move 4 ninja that is faster than move 1 ninja will NOT move before move 1 ninja, because move 1 ninja is prioritized.

I hope this is what your question is about, if not, please let me know, will try to help you in a different way.

I think i understood what is your problem, so let me explain a thing that maybe you aren't aware of.

The general rule qoolem talks about is the following one: in pvp a first prompt move mystery can be interrupted only by a first prompt move mystery if has higher initiative, a second prompt move mystery can be interrupted only by a first prompt move mystery or by a second prompt move mystery with higher initiative, a third prompt move mystery can be interrupted by a 1st or 2nd prompt move mystery or by a 3rd prompt move mystery with higher initiative, and so on. But beware that this is the general rule.

The game mechanics are made in a way that if you don't lag and have the best pc in the world and you don't use any mystery then what happens is that you get the following streak of actions: 1st: highest initiative first prompt move ninja uses his standard attack. 2nd: lowest initiative first prompt move ninja uses his standard attack. 3rd: highest initiative second prompt move ninja uses his standard attack, 4th: lowest initiative second prompt move ninja uses his standard attack and so on up to the 4th lowest initiative prompt move ninja. The time span between one action and the following one is set and when you use a mystery this timespan don't get at all modified nor the actions i talked about get delayed. Depending on when you use a mystery the effect gets displayed before or after one of these actions.

Now, the problem you are facing is the following one: a skilled player knows exactly about how this mechanics work and so waits 1 millisecond before his 2nd prompt move ninja standard attack lands to use a mystery if he knows it can be interrupted. By doing so, when the icon of the mystery pops over the ninja, you click on your mystery to interrupt the enemy, but the server don't have the time to understand that you wanted to use the mystery to interrupt your enemy one and so, for it, is like if you wanted to use the mystery AFTER the enemy second prompt move standard attack.

So what happens is that instead of getting the following streak of movements (the one you expect to get): your mystery -> enemy negated mystery -> standard attack, you get this streak of movements: enemy mystery -> standard attack -> your mystery. Just because the time between one standard attack and another is fixed and mysteries gets placed between them.

To be clearer: a mystery can be interrupted by a theoretically faster mystery ONLY IF BOTH ARE CALCULATED BY THE SERVER AS IF THEY ARE HAPPENING BETWEEN THE TWO SAME ACTIONS (standard attacks).

So, yes, a mystery, with some timing skill can be made uninterruptable and personally speaking i think this is a serious problem that could be easily solved in 99% of the cases by adding a line of code that says that when you use a mystery the following standard attack gets forcefully delayed by 2 seconds.

Theoretically automode should prevent this, but only if you are lucky enough to be on auto before the standard attack where your enemy choses to use his mystery, otherwise the AI will simply waste the interruption on the lowest hp ninja and beware that when you click on 'auto' the game doesn't switch immediately to automode, but waits for the following action to do it, making so very hard to take advantage of it in this specific situation.

I explained it in the text. Read it better. Doesn't matter your initiative, he just uses his mysteries before one of his standard attacks and even if you have higher initiative you can't use your mysteries before his ones for the reason i explained. If instead you get nuked by a standard attack like sage naruto one that starts for sure a combo... i explained that too. Position on the field matters only on par initiative, (so in pvp only among summons/clones at the end of the round), but if initiative is higher than 0 then the highest initiative first prompt move ninja moves always before the lowest initiative first prompt move ninja, even if your one is in position 1 and enemy one is in position 6, to use the numbers of qoolem.

Let be clearer. Lets say i use this lineup:

x roshi x

yagura breeze dancer x

x sage naruto x

and my roshi have 4000 initiative.

Lets say you use the classic mb blitz team:

Mifune x MB

Wb asuma iruka x

x x x

And your mb have 3800 initiative.

Who moves first?

Reading what you wrote you seem to think that should move first your mb, but no, since both your mb and my roshi are first prompt moves then, moves first my roshi even if is in position 4 and your mb is in position 1.