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1＃ Go ToAs the title says,I'd like you guys to share your teams that can counter blitz teams,if you have some.Also share your talents,summon and positionning This post was last edited by blu***@gmail.com at 2017-7-11 02:53 -
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This is what my alt is running.
Killer Bee Sage Naruto x
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WM KazeKage Gaara x
Talents: 3, 3, 1, 2, 4 Rhino OR 3, 3, 4, 3, 4 Snake
Haven't tried it since I don't have the ninja but maybe if you killer bee samehada, try it out since it absorbs chakra and would be helpful with gaara's mystery. -
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1. Water & wind main's 4th mystery drastically reduces their dmg, since they remove all buffs and shields, blitz teams are focused on buffing main to the highest possible level. Wind jinchuuriki teams tend to do well since they are wind and wind naturally does 20% more dmg to lightning, also gaaras super armor cant be moved. Water after deleting buff can either chaos or poison lightning main sicne round 1.
2. Hinata with a bit of luck can dodge standard attacks (must be first row)- teams are really flexible, since its just 1 ninja that u use for round1 when they go lightning armor. Chase with acupuncture allows u to cancel enemy mystery on everyone except mifune.
3. Gimmick counter is running yagura and instant chakra giver (think bani chakra from fire main with 3/4 mystery) to clone enemy barrier ninja (if slower) to destroy enemy barrier
4. team with a lot of starting shields and super armor, propably scaling defenses as well OR water/earth immortal team (kage tsunade/kabuto/sakura/water main and a scaling tank) -
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God I am tired of blitz teams in Matsuri and Sage... I did matsuri today and due to bad match making I had 3 fights against the same blitz team, all over 5-6k above me. Needless to say I was done first round...
Until new packs come, and most importantly damage recalculation, you either build a team ONLY to counter blitz, or just wait for the battle to end.
The sad thing is that there is no fantasy in team making...people see only 2 teams that work and copy them.
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To counter lightning blitz, you only have a few viable options (that doesn't involve throwing the match vs everything else you might meet).
1) Run the wind f2p meta team (SN, KK gaara, Bee; talent 3x134 with dog of hell. X can be any of the standard attacks, depending on your personal taste.) Summons and chases can be changed to less optimal, but still functional ones if you don't have dog of hell, as stated by a post above.
2) Run a black hidan or SSN SSK team. It'll beat lightning blitz at equal power.
3) Run an earth roshi team, and pray the enemy mb is not parked directly opposite of your roshi.
4) Run blitz team yourself and hope your mb has higher init ;P
5)* Run mabui 1010 water team, replace mei with hashi (and stay on water clone) or kimimaro + poison tai. You'll beat lightning blitz at equal power most of the time, but not always.
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Regarding some of the posts above...
- Normal sakura has ZERO viability against lightning blitz. It won't work at all.
- Skewer (water 4th mystery) is not viable. It cannot be used on round 1. You are already (half) dead by the start of round 2.
- Sand dust (wind 4th mystery) is not viable except for specific situations such as spacetime playoffs. Using this mystery is basically throwing the fight against many matchups that you'd otherwise win through dance of impetus.
- Hinata is not meta viable for single teams at higher power. She works as a stopgap at lower power/levels only.
- Immortal teams are HORRIBLE vs lightning blitz. Lightning blitz is the hard counter to immortal teams.. do not try to fight lightning blitz with healspams.
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Last night, as water main in matsuri and the first time ever! I used normal 5* Zabuza. I didn't know what i was thinking I just wanted to try out his round 1 blind.
As equal power and slightly higher init I believe. My Zabuza threw out his mystery and it worked wonder.
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Blitz teams are hard to counter because it is basically a Battle Power stand off. If you have more power than a blitz team and your ninjas survive the first turn then there you go, but if you have less and you lose one or 2 ninjas then its over.
I see people saying a sage, gaara, jin team. But even with that a high bp blitz will rip right through it probably killing the sage clone, sage, and pressing quite a bit of damage on the WM.
The only big counter to a blitz team is a Hinata. She will soak all the damage turn 1, and block the whole blitz. -
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- Broken Screen On 2017-07-11 06:29:13
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Last night, as water main in matsuri and the first time ever! I used normal 5* Zabuza. I didn't know what i was thinking I just wanted to try out his round 1 blind.
As equal power and slightly higher init I believe. My Zabuza threw out his mystery and it worked wonder.
And first time in a long while 5/5 wins.
Zabuza mystery can't be used in round1 so is not at all a counter for blitz teams. The only viable option to beat a blitz team that owns higher initiative than you currently are *y harem jutsu and sand dust. The problem is that both are very few useful against other meta teams.
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- Dragonfire14 On 2017-07-11 12:24:19
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Blitz teams are hard to counter because it is basically a Battle Power stand off. If you have more power than a blitz team and your ninjas survive the first turn then there you go, but if you have less and you lose one or 2 ninjas then its over.
I see people saying a sage, gaara, jin team. But even with that a high bp blitz will rip right through it probably killing the sage clone, sage, and pressing quite a bit of damage on the WM.
The only big counter to a blitz team is a Hinata. She will soak all the damage turn 1, and block the whole blitz.
Blitz teams usually run asuma wind blade whose standard attack overcomes hinata mystery. If the enemy has not the intelligence of a rat will wait for wb asuma to attack to see what happens (unless they chose to not use the critical standard attack, since both taijutsu attack and the one that hits the lowest hp ninjas can't care less about hinata). And if owns higher initiative could delay its lightning armor to round 2 or the very end of round 1 if asuma combo + iruka mystery was enough to nuke hinata.
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tbh, wind meta team with S.N, KK,gaara, killer bee and wind main can't effectively counter blitz team....they can only win blitz in power advantage for 3000-5000 BP instead of countering the blitz team. The only counter team that can annihilate blitz team is empress team, build with wind main, hinata, karin, and kurenai. In most space-time battle, empress team can suppress blitz team in a BP disadvantage for about 3000-5000 bp. -
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- Zelgadis~ On 2017-07-11 16:11:22
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Blitz teams usually run asuma wind blade whose standard attack overcomes hinata mystery. If the enemy has not the intelligence of a rat will wait for wb asuma to attack to see what happens (unless they chose to not use the critical standard attack, since both taijutsu attack and the one that hits the lowest hp ninjas can't care less about hinata). And if owns higher initiative could delay its lightning armor to round 2 or the very end of round 1 if asuma combo + iruka mystery was enough to nuke hinata.
This post was last edited by ayr***@yahoo.com at 2017-7-11 16:13 This post was last edited by ayr***@yahoo.com at 2017-7-11 16:14
Most blitz teams run on auto, but true Hinata is not a 100% counter but close as we can get -
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In terms of mains Earth with Steel Body and Unyielding counter light armor teams hard and any Wind team with blind passive, 75% it lands on their main and you get huge advantage or Wind team with Bee and debuf removal mystery, you Bee main then they either interrupt Bee or let your main get mystery off because because Bee makes her immune to interrupt.
In terms of ninjas, Iruka does good, he tanks good and if he dies he don't break combo, his shield and dmg buff stay till they time out, generally if same power blitz spent whole first turn killing Iruka you can just win them 3v4 after with Fire/Wind or Light mains. -
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As a guy who uses Konoha blitz (Danzo-Iruka-Asuma ~72k) these are the following teams that give me trouble at similar BP:
1. Shield teams, mainly with earth main and a well timed Gakido
2. Kimimaro teams with water poison tai - Kimi being positioned in the middle row and the other ninjas "lower"
3. Wind mains - with blind passive or dust
4. Blitz with higher init P1
Points 2,3,4 can be countered by blitz with Iruka, Danzo or waiting in case of blind and a little luck.
At similar BP, Sage Naruto and/or Roshi are not viable, they die first round. -
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