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[ Suggestions ] Proposal to nerf of two main characters mysteries.

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On 2017-07-09 21:27:41Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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I know what most of you could think, but i honestly think two mysteries right now are too overpowered based on how big is the advantage they give with very easy gainable ninjas.
I'm talking about:


1) Illusion - Mirroring Vision for Scarlet Blaze


2) Lightning Armor for Midnight Blade.


About the first, what do we see?
Is prompt moved, costs 0 chakra, have 0 starting battle cool down, shields for quite a lot, remove every debuff and also give immunity to every ninja the enemy owns for 1 whole round and have 'only' a 3 rounds cd.
The only way to avoid it is to interrupt it or to use buff removing mysteries, but many times this would be pretty hard to do for many reasons, overall with scarlet blaze other passives.
Seems a bit too much, overall because when used you can't even know if the enemy is using or not Genjutsu - Mirror Return, that's pretty annoying by itself.
Imho this mystery should be nerfed, and quite a lot.
Or you make it cost 40+ chakra so that is the only thing they c*e in round 1 if they want to use it there, or you give to it an 1 round starting battle cooldown, or you remove one of the two effects (or removes debuffs or give immunity, not both).


About the second, what do we see?
Is prompt moved, gives immunity to every debuff for 1 round to MB, gives +15% critical rating and grants two more standard attacks for a round.
The main issue here is not the mystery itself, differently from SB one, but how easy is for MBs to make good teams that hyper boosts MB themselves to wipe out everything with bloodthirsty demon.
What i honestly think about it is that should be scripted in a way that when used together with Bloodthirsty Demon should become non prompt or should not give at all immunity to debuffs to the ninja, in the sense that should be way more a double edged sword in comparison with how is now for MBs.




Those are just suggestions and i know nothing will change, but is my opinion, since i don't see comparable OP single mysteries on Breeze Dancers, Crimson Fist and Azure Fang.
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On 2017-07-09 21:42:55Show this Author Only
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I do agree that Lightning Main's kit is a bit over powered, not necessarily the one skill. With just a few ninjas you can make a investigating blitz team or a CC resisting sword team. Those 2 teams pretty much counter most teams. The fact that one main counters all mains is in need for a nerf.

On the other hand, the shield mystery for fire main is fine. You talk about how clearing all debuffs is broken, well just look at Gaikido Pain which does the same thing before every action to your team, or Hanzo who does it to your entire field! In an average fight a Fire Main can get the shield off about once, which I actually think it needs to be buffed to a 2 turn cool down. Now the other part you think is op is the immunity, but look at there are ninjas that have that built in plus Lightning main can give that to 3 sword ninjas. The shield skill is fine
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On 2017-07-09 22:36:35Show this Author Only
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Mirror Vision is fine. If anything Fire's shield (and leech) needs a buffs to avoid being oneshot by blitz team.

Lightning Armor is pretty much dead against Hinata; unless your opponent outgears you. IF you survive him after his mystery wears out, you can pretty much cc him to death. Plus, with Bloodthirsty in effect, they wouldn't be immune to cc, in which case you can try chaosing them and watch Midight turns on his allies.

(Also, Lightning doesn counter all main. Water's mega heal compo can outheal his damage.)

All in all, Fire (along with Wind and Earth) need buff to keep up with Lightning (and Water). Maybe gives Fire his damage buff on ignited targets or buff his leeching.
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On 2017-07-10 08:51:33Show this Author Only
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Hello,

Thanks for your opinion on the matter ;)
I will let our team know about it ^^

Have a nice day
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On 2017-07-10 09:36:04Show this Author Only
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  • Watanuki13 On 2017-07-09 22:36:35
  • Mirror Vision is fine. If anything Fire's shield (and leech) needs a buffs to avoid being oneshot by blitz team.

    Lightning Armor is pretty much dead against Hinata; unless your opponent outgears you. IF you survive him after his mystery wears out, you can pretty much cc him to death. Plus, with Bloodthirsty in effect, they wouldn't be immune to cc, in which case you can try chaosing them and watch Midight turns on his allies.

    (Also, Lightning doesn counter all main. Water's mega heal compo can outheal his damage.)

    All in all, Fire (along with Wind and Earth) need buff to keep up with Lightning (and Water). Maybe gives Fire his damage buff on ignited targets or buff his leeching.
A blitzing LM can kill a ninja before a WM heal team can heal the damage.
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On 2017-07-10 10:51:06Show this Author Only
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lightning armor is *edly broken, it turns every team into nothing
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