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1＃ Go ToSo can you plunder other plunderers or can you only match with only convoy players during plunder? I want to know because if you can only match with convoy players then I am gonna start plunder too (I c*ready beat everyone in the range of 40-45k) my power is 36k but I use a good team. the thing is players aren't listening and plundering is better then the current convoy system because even if you land just 1 plunder you get more coupons then 3 faliled SS convoys. we will all burn for this plunder system turning good people toxic, this isn't good karma.
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You can only plunder convoyers
However, support can be anyone, which means a plunderer can support the one you try to plunder and you will end up fighting that team as well.
Also, there is the issue of supply. As more people think the way you do, there might eventually end up in a state where there are more plunderers than convoyers, so each of you, on average, won't even get one plunder. This isn't an issue in the oldest servers, but for newer ones, it can be a significant problem.
And at last but not least, if there are way too many plunderers such that SS convoy almost always fails, eventually the convoyer might simply not take any SS to spite you.
So while it's true plunder have much higher potential yield, you need to pay attention to the server en environment to see if it would actually work for you. -
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- PraiseLuka On 2017-06-23 04:43:25
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You can only plunder convoyers
However, support can be anyone, which means a plunderer can support the one you try to plunder and you will end up fighting that team as well.
Also, there is the issue of supply. As more people think the way you do, there might eventually end up in a state where there are more plunderers than convoyers, so each of you, on average, won't even get one plunder. This isn't an issue in the oldest servers, but for newer ones, it can be a significant problem.
And at last but not least, if there are way too many plunderers such that SS convoy almost always fails, eventually the convoyer might simply not take any SS to spite you.
So while it's true plunder have much higher potential yield, you need to pay attention to the server en environment to see if it would actually work for you.
your points are very good indeed but here is the kicker most of the high power ''*'' try hards don't really care about the low power players, most of the time I don't get a support response even when you can clearly see them talking in group chat and that's pretty much the whole server which means if I can even land just 1 plunder I profit compared to convoys that not only take away you ingots but coupons as well if you lose, I might sound like I am on a high horse but the fact is the players in my server are really close minded and short sighted. I mean we could have about 6-7 groups easy and each and everyone of us will get gnw rewards like 40-60 seals per month the f2p will catch up and it will be fun but everyone is too busy reveling in the defeat of others and winning even though winning in gnw just means 1 more legendary pack and few hundred group coins. -
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- PraiseLuka On 2017-06-23 04:43:25
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You can only plunder convoyers
However, support can be anyone, which means a plunderer can support the one you try to plunder and you will end up fighting that team as well.
Also, there is the issue of supply. As more people think the way you do, there might eventually end up in a state where there are more plunderers than convoyers, so each of you, on average, won't even get one plunder. This isn't an issue in the oldest servers, but for newer ones, it can be a significant problem.
And at last but not least, if there are way too many plunderers such that SS convoy almost always fails, eventually the convoyer might simply not take any SS to spite you.
So while it's true plunder have much higher potential yield, you need to pay attention to the server en environment to see if it would actually work for you.
Best answer!
Our server was like that...like 15 people plundered everyday. Eventually people stopped running SS and many quit due to frustration.
Nowadays no one plunders and everyone runs SS with safety. Well....there aren't many of us anyways.. -
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- Attac an Respec On 2017-06-23 05:41:45
- your points are very good indeed but here is the kicker most of the high power ''*'' try hards don't really care about the low power players, most of the time I don't get a support response even when you can clearly see them talking in group chat and that's pretty much the whole server which means if I can even land just 1 plunder I profit compared to convoys that not only take away you ingots but coupons as well if you lose, I might sound like I am on a high horse but the fact is the players in my server are really close minded and short sighted. I mean we could have about 6-7 groups easy and each and everyone of us will get gnw rewards like 40-60 seals per month the f2p will catch up and it will be fun but everyone is too busy reveling in the defeat of others and winning even though winning in gnw just means 1 more legendary pack and few hundred group coins.
based on what you said about your server, it sure *s. However, you can't really change the behaviour of players. I'm not sure how active you are in your guild but if they know who you are and you have a good relationship with them and you try to get convoy support but you don't get one, then it's easier for you call their bs. If you don't contribute to your guild besides just showing up, then they will most likely see you as a one of those "nameless guild member" and won't help you.
When you mean by players aren't listening, does it mean that your server has people that don't understanding the benefits of plunder? Sounds kind of rude but if you know about the benefit why should you tell others? Just like what Praise stated, if more people know about it, less people will switch to do plunder.
In the end, you have to decide if you want to convoy or plunder per day and answer these questions. Who do I usually plunder? Who are the regulars that do convoys and do they know about the support system? Is it better to plunder or convoy during the morning or afternoon? -
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What i do (i am one of the top5 in my merged server) is to run S convoys only where there is the food trial in rich field and to plunder when there is the coins trial.
What praiseluka says is true and there is also to consider the fact plundering is one of the main activity that drives away players from this game.
In a new patch of the game the convoy/plunder system gets modified so it won't be anymore as is now, but the current system is too appealing for strong players if your server is not a dead server.
What i honestly think is that the system should be reversed, in the sense that top20 people should not be able to plunder, but only 21-50th place should be and that, at most, top20 should be given a chance to support weaker players plundering attempts for a 25% of the eventual reward up to 3 times per day. This way the things woud work out way better. -
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- Zelgadis~ On 2017-06-23 15:46:58
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What i do (i am one of the top5 in my merged server) is to run S convoys only where there is the food trial in rich field and to plunder when there is the coins trial.
What praiseluka says is true and there is also to consider the fact plundering is one of the main activity that drives away players from this game.
In a new patch of the game the convoy/plunder system gets modified so it won't be anymore as is now, but the current system is too appealing for strong players if your server is not a dead server.
What i honestly think is that the system should be reversed, in the sense that top20 people should not be able to plunder, but only 21-50th place should be and that, at most, top20 should be given a chance to support weaker players plundering attempts for a 25% of the eventual reward up to 3 times per day. This way the things woud work out way better.
What the hell? You talk as all the top20(and maybe on a merged server or a really active one is true)but is not always the case.Players or no players on a server is one of the few things that a f2p can do do gain a nice amount of coupons.I get that is frustrating getting less coupons than the plunder players and I am all for increasing the amount of ss or coupons a player that does convo can do/get. But only a certain top to do plunder is not that much extraordinary. Sure,p2w to get coupons this way too is frustrating ,but the convoy players always have the option of being supported and that means that us plunders may fight people with 20k+etc power over us and lose that and also they can do convo at any hour. If any case,many players get sick of waiting even 5hours for maybe just one ss or that player c*so lose all his tries. I guess not everyone can do the waiting but as a f2p ,for the waiting and the risk of getting no coupons I still prefer to do it. Personally ,I think the frustrating part of for a players who does convo(I did it in the beginning) is the small amount of getting just 30 coupons and 15 if you lose. Maybe if they would increase the official amount of those coupons and make it at 50for a successful convoy and 30 for a lost one people may not complain that much. There is always the option of having the possibility of adding another ss mission or if you defeat the plunder to not be able to get attacked again. Given that my server is not a merged ones the idea of only a certain top to do and first 20 not to is not something I like given that are ways of improving the plunder/convoy system. This post was last edited by XI*erflies at 2017-6-23 11:40 -
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Update: 2 days ago leader of one of the groups pm our groups leader, told him to stop the plunders his players are talking about quitting the game but most of the group members just dismissed him, I just don't understand like these are the same players that were whining 2 months ago about low server population threatening to quit. -
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Note: This post has been filtered by Daiske (Administrator)The strong becomes the weak and the cycle continues -
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Note: This post has been filtered by Daiske (Administrator)They begin to convoy themselves, only to be ravaged on by stronger players. Thus restarting the cycle. -
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Note: This post has been filtered by Daiske (Administrator)To be honest most ppl that do get plunder are * enough to deserve it, since they never ask for support and do convoy when the serve and players are most active, then they get plundered and then they blame everyone else except themself(commonly seen as"I can't do anything vs no-life P2W"). But i guess in the end it is survival of the fittest. -
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Note: This post has been filtered by Daiske (Administrator)was that directed to me? -
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Note: This post has been filtered by Daiske (Administrator)First of all i don't remember saying if i do convoy or plunder at all.
And second the majority of as you said powerless players are * hence the powerlessness. -
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