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On 2017-06-21 17:40:03Show this Author Only
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  • Sakumo7 On 2017-06-21 14:07:13
  • I currently have Roshi but he isn't someone to fawn over yet at least not until 3.0

    Yes he has his strong points but almost all team have him in the front which makes him very easy to blitz out.
Whats good about 3.0? He didn't get updated in Germany, we won't be getting a better Roshi at the start either :)
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On 2017-06-21 23:09:20Show this Author Only
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  • AkashaMoka On 2017-06-21 17:40:03
  • Whats good about 3.0? He didn't get updated in Germany, we won't be getting a better Roshi at the start either :)
He gets a good buff if I am not mistaken?

Or did the German version didn't get the buff yet?
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On 2017-06-21 23:32:08Show this Author Only
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Nothing changes about Roshi in 3.0. In fact, if we get the same tactics update that Germany got (+stat percentages) in 3.0 then Roshi actually becomes worse.
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On 2017-06-21 23:51:59Show this Author Only
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He's one of the best front tanks to deal with blitz

I 65k blitzed the fk out of a 75k roshi so your entire post is invalid
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On 2017-06-22 01:08:43Show this Author Only
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  • Sakumo7 On 2017-06-21 23:09:20
  • He gets a good buff if I am not mistaken?

    Or did the German version didn't get the buff yet?
Germany got no roshi buff on theiir 3.0 release.

Just like how we didn't get cave keys in wishing tree for the first 5 months of 2.0... probably will not see the damage formula change that significantly buffs roshi for quite some time after 3.0
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On 2017-06-22 02:11:58Show this Author Only
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  • Sakumo7 On 2017-06-21 23:09:20
  • He gets a good buff if I am not mistaken?

    Or did the German version didn't get the buff yet?
No buff yet.
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On 2017-06-22 02:12:45Show this Author Only
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  • Deculture On 2017-06-21 23:32:08
  • Nothing changes about Roshi in 3.0. In fact, if we get the same tactics update that Germany got (+stat percentages) in 3.0 then Roshi actually becomes worse.
If we get tactics you can say goodbye to the game.
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On 2017-06-22 04:12:03Show this Author Only
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  • veelocity On 2017-06-21 09:09:40
  • Very true. I absolutely agree that he was pretty hyped and now quite a few players find him disappointing. I think a lot of people just jumped on the bandwagon without watching the CN gameplay etc. Or actually just not understanding the impact he will have late game...as that is what his kit is built for. People are just expecting this monster right now...but he'll be fine once they fix his scaling or ratios with later versions. Haha, nah, Kurama link and Madara will be well worth it when they arrive as we should have all the pieces for them to function as they should.
by the way how much seal pulls will it take to get madara? is it possible to save up for him?
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On 2017-06-22 04:16:58Show this Author Only
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  • Attac an Respec On 2017-06-22 04:12:03
  • by the way how much seal pulls will it take to get madara? is it possible to save up for him?
let's say -(it differs because they don't give exact number of drawn seal scrolls) ~ 1000 either Kyuubi Naruto or Uchiha Madara
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On 2017-06-22 04:27:03Show this Author Only
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every streamer pulled roshi so everyone had to pull him as well, hmm, I am laughing... he is not that good to have him asap, so If you had 300+ seal scrolls why everyone cant wait for a rebate... even though you are spenders you could wait one week..
Edit: to rebates: as someone already said the recruitment feedback gives back at 300 seal scrolls used 2? itachi frags... probably everyone who pulls over 300 seal scrolls every time wants to have him one day... so why not to have such an event here as well
This post was last edited by Evankhell at 2017-6-22 04:31
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On 2017-06-22 04:33:26Show this Author Only
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  • Attac an Respec On 2017-06-22 04:12:03
  • by the way how much seal pulls will it take to get madara? is it possible to save up for him?
Well it'll probably be a while before we get him but you can definitely save if you like. Kurama link and Madara are around 1k scrolls and you get 1 of the two. We probably wont see that treasure for another year or so maybe longer. But there's going to be a lot of temptation between now and that treasure. But if you're dedicated to saving you should have enough by then
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On 2017-06-22 04:34:28Show this Author Only
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  • Gutsy Shinobi On 2017-06-22 04:27:03
  • every streamer pulled roshi so everyone had to pull him as well, hmm, I am laughing... he is not that good to have him asap, so If you had 300+ seal scrolls why everyone cant wait for a rebate... even though you are spenders you could wait one week..
    Edit: to rebates: as someone already said the recruitment feedback gives back at 300 seal scrolls used 2? itachi frags... probably everyone who pulls over 300 seal scrolls every time wants to have him one day... so why not to have such an event here as well
    This post was last edited by Evankhell at 2017-6-22 04:31
I understand youtubers trying to get it first since they need to show it on their videos for them views. Besides them, everyone else aren't using their brains or don't care about rebates.
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On 2017-06-22 04:37:33Show this Author Only
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  • Danzō On 2017-06-22 04:34:28
  • I understand youtubers trying to get it first since they need to show it on their videos for them views. Besides them, everyone else aren't using their brains or don't care about rebates.
lol this is everything. People just enjoy the thrill of having them. right then and there. Not a single person on my server who pulled Roshi is using him.
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On 2017-06-22 04:42:16Show this Author Only
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  • IamAscrub On 2017-06-22 01:08:43
  • Germany got no roshi buff on theiir 3.0 release.

    Just like how we didn't get cave keys in wishing tree for the first 5 months of 2.0... probably will not see the damage formula change that significantly buffs roshi for quite some time after 3.0
Well that's kind of disappointing.
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On 2017-06-22 04:53:12Show this Author Only
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  • veelocity On 2017-06-22 04:37:33
  • lol this is everything. People just enjoy the thrill of having them. right then and there. Not a single person on my server who pulled Roshi is using him.
that's so sad :) at least 30 seal scrolls gone... :dizzy:
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On 2017-06-22 05:23:16Show this Author Only
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I don't get where some of you guys are coming from. I know a lot of Germans said Roshi was under powered so I wasn't expecting much. But I've been saving seals for him since Tendo Treasure so I went ahead and pulled him. He is MUCH better than what the Germans said. Blitz is capable of taking him down...I'll admit I've heard this but I've not experienced it myself. Infact my experience has been even after my whole team dies I still have a chance to win because of Roshi.

Infact the other day I fought a team that lined up beneath my roshi so they took out the bottom part of my formation, and then with debuffs they killed my main. So it was 4 ninjas against Roshi. He came back and beat them all down aside from the water main. I ended up winning with like 8k hp against my opponents having 7.2k. My point is I don't think I have any other ninja that could have pulled that off.

I thought for sure the match was lost. And that isn't the only time Roshi has saved me. Now I'm not saying he is OP or anything but he is better than a lot of posters here would have you believe. All that "He *s until 3.0" is a complete lie. I mean not only did 3.0 not do ANYTHING for the Germans yet, he is pretty * good right now. If Germans thought he was weak then they were not using him correctly.

But sure, you can beat him if you line up your team correctly against him...maybe. But maybe not? And honestly, either way, luck shouldn't be a factor that you hold against him. Besides even the strongest blitz on my server couldn't beat my Earth main team once I shielded Roshi. That isn't a brag, I'm just saying he isn't nearly as squishy as people would want you to believe. Of course, I did mood him life and I have him on a life tactic spot. But that should be standard procedure for any tank.

It's worth mentioning that earth main team does die to immortal teams, but I think by now we c*l agree immortal teams are more powerful than most teams, and you know...immortal. (Of course some blitz teams do exist that have enough power to dps them down, but please don't say that is a formation thing...it's a power thing.)
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On 2017-06-22 05:31:56Show this Author Only
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  • Beji On 2017-06-22 05:23:16
  • I don't get where some of you guys are coming from. I know a lot of Germans said Roshi was under powered so I wasn't expecting much. But I've been saving seals for him since Tendo Treasure so I went ahead and pulled him. He is MUCH better than what the Germans said. Blitz is capable of taking him down...I'll admit I've heard this but I've not experienced it myself. Infact my experience has been even after my whole team dies I still have a chance to win because of Roshi.

    Infact the other day I fought a team that lined up beneath my roshi so they took out the bottom part of my formation, and then with debuffs they killed my main. So it was 4 ninjas against Roshi. He came back and beat them all down aside from the water main. I ended up winning with like 8k hp against my opponents having 7.2k. My point is I don't think I have any other ninja that could have pulled that off.

    I thought for sure the match was lost. And that isn't the only time Roshi has saved me. Now I'm not saying he is OP or anything but he is better than a lot of posters here would have you believe. All that "He *s until 3.0" is a complete lie. I mean not only did 3.0 not do ANYTHING for the Germans yet, he is pretty * good right now. If Germans thought he was weak then they were not using him correctly.

    But sure, you can beat him if you line up your team correctly against him...maybe. But maybe not? And honestly, either way, luck shouldn't be a factor that you hold against him. Besides even the strongest blitz on my server couldn't beat my Earth main team once I shielded Roshi. That isn't a brag, I'm just saying he isn't nearly as squishy as people would want you to believe. Of course, I did mood him life and I have him on a life tactic spot. But that should be standard procedure for any tank.

    It's worth mentioning that earth main team does die to immortal teams, but I think by now we c*l agree immortal teams are more powerful than most teams, and you know...immortal. (Of course some blitz teams do exist that have enough power to dps them down, but please don't say that is a formation thing...it's a power thing.)
It's not that he's weak in German, it's that the games ruined over there because of % tactics. You can get a light main with 26k attack and good luck to your Roshi. let's see if he survives that.
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On 2017-06-22 05:50:20Show this Author Only
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  • AkashaMoka On 2017-06-22 05:31:56
  • It's not that he's weak in German, it's that the games ruined over there because of % tactics. You can get a light main with 26k attack and good luck to your Roshi. let's see if he survives that.
Challenge accepted. j/k... lol I didn't know about the % tactics thing being the reason why they said that. I suppose that is not good for us short term.

I will see what sort of teams to test when that time comes..

Btw Akasha, since you do have some good knowledge on the subject, mind if I ask you about Immortal teams? I mean does this % tactics effect them at all? I'm hoping it does..cuz I'm not exactly the biggest fan.
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On 2017-06-22 06:22:04Show this Author Only
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  • Beji On 2017-06-22 05:50:20
  • Challenge accepted. j/k... lol I didn't know about the % tactics thing being the reason why they said that. I suppose that is not good for us short term.

    I will see what sort of teams to test when that time comes..

    Btw Akasha, since you do have some good knowledge on the subject, mind if I ask you about Immortal teams? I mean does this % tactics effect them at all? I'm hoping it does..cuz I'm not exactly the biggest fan.
The % tactics amplify your tactic page. I believe it has to be level 8 for it to take in affect to use otherwise you must upgrade it first. the Tactic % ranges from 5/10/15/20/25% is the max you can have. With some Germany screenshots I've seen Joinin Minato with 28k attack, Light Main with 27k, and others. I am sure Nin and life will play a huge role as well. I believe I saw a front tank with 37k hp. That is very tanky and dangerous.

It just ruins the game a bit for Germany since there is no balance at all at the moment. I believe these tacitc % help immortal teams just as well, but like I said, if the enemy player has too much damage you will die. So it does kill off immortal teams just a bit.
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On 2017-06-22 06:25:30Show this Author Only
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  • Beji On 2017-06-22 05:50:20
  • Challenge accepted. j/k... lol I didn't know about the % tactics thing being the reason why they said that. I suppose that is not good for us short term.

    I will see what sort of teams to test when that time comes..

    Btw Akasha, since you do have some good knowledge on the subject, mind if I ask you about Immortal teams? I mean does this % tactics effect them at all? I'm hoping it does..cuz I'm not exactly the biggest fan.
You got me curious, since i'm still not sure if Roshi is worth my seals
are you f2p ? if yes how much power you got ?
Also what's your current earth lineup ?
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