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On 2017-06-20 13:51:50Show All Posts
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  • LordMeul On 2017-06-20 13:48:04
  • let me guess.. u dont have roshi....
He doesn't have Roshi. ;P:dizzy: CN players call this game the road to initiative because that's what ultimately the game is about. You either follow the meta or create your own. If you don't like Roshi there are teams to beat it, just have to use your head and do some homework. Simple enough, no college course field required or anything XD This post was last edited by AkashaMoka at 2017-6-20 13:55 This post was last edited by AkashaMoka at 2017-6-20 14:04
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On 2017-06-20 14:12:55Show All Posts
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  • Broken Screen On 2017-06-20 14:08:33
  • Judging from his story, most likely LM, DPB Hidan, Bee 7 Swords and Roshi. This team triggers all the chases easily.

    All units immune to debuffs for 2 rounds, then that player open the real fight with Roshi and kapow.
use blitz and kill Roshi:shutup::shutup::shutup:
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On 2017-06-20 14:27:04Show All Posts
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  • Loaf On 2017-06-20 14:19:34
  • "Blitz" is subjective to power and initiative.

    "Konoha Blitz" sort of works but's its all or nothing in one attack. Even managing to kill Roshi its a stretch to win because your team is going to be crying after Hidan is done with two turns. If you don't get the crits and combo you need in 1 turn, its game over.

    You can say Blitz is the answer to every strong team given the power to destroy a ninja, but the reality is it can fail easily with many small adjustments or bad luck. Roshi with def stacking is very similar to Earth Main stacking which is essentially the hardest counter to blitz in the game.
For your case you have the power. Many ways to test if its approachable or not via space time.
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On 2017-06-21 06:56:20Show All Posts
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  • Attac an Respec On 2017-06-21 05:31:53
  • your comment is kinda funny to me because almost everyone thought Roshi was gonna be the new meta but it turns out he isn't that tanky and has alot of counters, Now everyone is trying to justify Roshi but he just isn't at the level he was hyped to be.
He's still good. Doesn't mean he's bad at all.
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On 2017-06-21 17:40:03Show All Posts
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  • Sakumo7 On 2017-06-21 14:07:13
  • I currently have Roshi but he isn't someone to fawn over yet at least not until 3.0

    Yes he has his strong points but almost all team have him in the front which makes him very easy to blitz out.
Whats good about 3.0? He didn't get updated in Germany, we won't be getting a better Roshi at the start either :)
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On 2017-06-22 02:11:58Show All Posts
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  • Sakumo7 On 2017-06-21 23:09:20
  • He gets a good buff if I am not mistaken?

    Or did the German version didn't get the buff yet?
No buff yet.
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On 2017-06-22 02:12:45Show All Posts
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  • Deculture On 2017-06-21 23:32:08
  • Nothing changes about Roshi in 3.0. In fact, if we get the same tactics update that Germany got (+stat percentages) in 3.0 then Roshi actually becomes worse.
If we get tactics you can say goodbye to the game.
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On 2017-06-22 05:31:56Show All Posts
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  • Beji On 2017-06-22 05:23:16
  • I don't get where some of you guys are coming from. I know a lot of Germans said Roshi was under powered so I wasn't expecting much. But I've been saving seals for him since Tendo Treasure so I went ahead and pulled him. He is MUCH better than what the Germans said. Blitz is capable of taking him down...I'll admit I've heard this but I've not experienced it myself. Infact my experience has been even after my whole team dies I still have a chance to win because of Roshi.

    Infact the other day I fought a team that lined up beneath my roshi so they took out the bottom part of my formation, and then with debuffs they killed my main. So it was 4 ninjas against Roshi. He came back and beat them all down aside from the water main. I ended up winning with like 8k hp against my opponents having 7.2k. My point is I don't think I have any other ninja that could have pulled that off.

    I thought for sure the match was lost. And that isn't the only time Roshi has saved me. Now I'm not saying he is OP or anything but he is better than a lot of posters here would have you believe. All that "He *s until 3.0" is a complete lie. I mean not only did 3.0 not do ANYTHING for the Germans yet, he is pretty * good right now. If Germans thought he was weak then they were not using him correctly.

    But sure, you can beat him if you line up your team correctly against him...maybe. But maybe not? And honestly, either way, luck shouldn't be a factor that you hold against him. Besides even the strongest blitz on my server couldn't beat my Earth main team once I shielded Roshi. That isn't a brag, I'm just saying he isn't nearly as squishy as people would want you to believe. Of course, I did mood him life and I have him on a life tactic spot. But that should be standard procedure for any tank.

    It's worth mentioning that earth main team does die to immortal teams, but I think by now we c*l agree immortal teams are more powerful than most teams, and you know...immortal. (Of course some blitz teams do exist that have enough power to dps them down, but please don't say that is a formation thing...it's a power thing.)
It's not that he's weak in German, it's that the games ruined over there because of % tactics. You can get a light main with 26k attack and good luck to your Roshi. let's see if he survives that.
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On 2017-06-22 06:22:04Show All Posts
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  • Beji On 2017-06-22 05:50:20
  • Challenge accepted. j/k... lol I didn't know about the % tactics thing being the reason why they said that. I suppose that is not good for us short term.

    I will see what sort of teams to test when that time comes..

    Btw Akasha, since you do have some good knowledge on the subject, mind if I ask you about Immortal teams? I mean does this % tactics effect them at all? I'm hoping it does..cuz I'm not exactly the biggest fan.
The % tactics amplify your tactic page. I believe it has to be level 8 for it to take in affect to use otherwise you must upgrade it first. the Tactic % ranges from 5/10/15/20/25% is the max you can have. With some Germany screenshots I've seen Joinin Minato with 28k attack, Light Main with 27k, and others. I am sure Nin and life will play a huge role as well. I believe I saw a front tank with 37k hp. That is very tanky and dangerous.

It just ruins the game a bit for Germany since there is no balance at all at the moment. I believe these tacitc % help immortal teams just as well, but like I said, if the enemy player has too much damage you will die. So it does kill off immortal teams just a bit.
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