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Given that this week was sage cross over implanted can someone explain how come 55k power is close to 75k? Given that I have 2 people from my server here I tend to believe that not every server has only players above 70k;so how I am close in power to be distributed this way?I find weird that I was in the same sage as some people who are at least 20k power over me. I do not know it it was a bug in distribution or something similar ?

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On 2017-05-26 04:06:48Show this Author Only
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Do you know of any lv 90 55k*+ player in your server cluster that is in a different sage?
If so, something fishy is going on.
If not, it's simply a case of... there aren't enough high power player who signed up for sage in your server cluster, so everyone 55k and up got stuffed into one, including the 75k. (I would assume a grouping that includes 75k is the first grouping of the server cluster, because otherwise it would imply there are enough 75k+ for their own grouping, which is kinda scary)

Remember, the "promised" grouping for group 1 is effectively "the N highest power player who are level 90 from the server cluster" where N is the size of the sage battle. For many clusters, that's going to be somewhere around 60k to 120k(or whatever highest power is in that cluster)

Btw, I assume that the server cluster is the same as the space time battle one, thou I can't be 100% certain.

55k+*: to be more specific, players who have a higher "max power" than your "max power"(since you are the "55k" here), where max power is the power that a player have on the leader board which I assume the sage sorts player by.
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I have the people(lv90) on my server who were over 60k(and they are not many in number) placed in different sage and the others who were near my power(or just under 60k) were also placed in different sages who despite the fact that had some high power also had people similar to their power who were larger in number. That's why I find strange,that as a 55k power player, I got placed in a sage with people who are above me with at least 20k This post was last edited by XI*erflies at 2017-5-25 23:19
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On 2017-05-26 04:19:25Show this Author Only
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  • XIButterflies On 2017-05-26 04:11:26
  • I have the people(lv90) on my server who were over 60k(and they are not many in number) placed in different sage and the others who were near my power(or just under 60k) were also placed in different sages who despite the fact that had some high power also had people similar to their power who were larger in number. That's why I find strange,that as a 55k power player, I got placed in a sage with people who are above me with at least 20k This post was last edited by XI*erflies at 2017-5-25 23:19
That would prove that they are not doing what they said they would.
Too late now, but I'm guessing the 60k on your server didn't capture screen shots like you did? Because if they did and the following 4 screenshots are shown, it would have been a solid case.
1. The screenshot you had: of a lower power player fighting a higher one.
2. The list of player in Camp X of the sage you are in.
3. The list of player in Camp X of the sage a player who have higher power than the "lower power" player in #1 is in
4. The power ranking showing that the player in #3 is of higher power than the "lower player" in #1 (and, by light of being in the ranking board together, in the same server and therefore server cluster)

Oh, i assume the 60k is a lv90, because for some *beep* reason, they decide to bracket by power first so.... different level can actually cause horrible splits.

I'm in LA server so our sage haven't started yet. I'm gonna ask all my lv 90 group mates grab a screenshot of the mountain camp players in their respective sage to see if we can come up with such a set of screenshots. I mean there is the 1 min prep period, perfectly good for taking screenshots~
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On 2017-05-26 04:24:26Show this Author Only
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  • PraiseLuka On 2017-05-26 04:19:25
  • That would prove that they are not doing what they said they would.
    Too late now, but I'm guessing the 60k on your server didn't capture screen shots like you did? Because if they did and the following 4 screenshots are shown, it would have been a solid case.
    1. The screenshot you had: of a lower power player fighting a higher one.
    2. The list of player in Camp X of the sage you are in.
    3. The list of player in Camp X of the sage a player who have higher power than the "lower power" player in #1 is in
    4. The power ranking showing that the player in #3 is of higher power than the "lower player" in #1 (and, by light of being in the ranking board together, in the same server and therefore server cluster)

    Oh, i assume the 60k is a lv90, because for some *beep* reason, they decide to bracket by power first so.... different level can actually cause horrible splits.

    I'm in LA server so our sage haven't started yet. I'm gonna ask all my lv 90 group mates grab a screenshot of the mountain camp players in their respective sage to see if we can come up with such a set of screenshots. I mean there is the 1 min prep period, perfectly good for taking screenshots~
Yes;I was talking about the lv 90 only. Well;the over 60k are payers so they don't care too much about that but for the rest this distribution is hardly fair.(and in my sage we were 24 and 25 in each camp). And that screenshots would be extremely nice of you and your server to do.This way it can be shown that the distribution is not quite right.
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On 2017-05-26 04:35:35Show this Author Only
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  • XIButterflies On 2017-05-26 04:24:26
  • Yes;I was talking about the lv 90 only. Well;the over 60k are payers so they don't care too much about that but for the rest this distribution is hardly fair.(and in my sage we were 24 and 25 in each camp). And that screenshots would be extremely nice of you and your server to do.This way it can be shown that the distribution is not quite right.
i just knew it from the start .. dont expect to be balanced around your bp .... my 3 battlefields were all from 40k - 82k :D some group mates that was in a different swb's was the same.. its all mixed up very badly and unbalanced .. but thats the crosserver we already knew that would happen.. so just either pray for good luck in your battlefields or just put you on auto and chill
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On 2017-05-26 04:40:26Show this Author Only
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  • Jori. On 2017-05-26 04:35:35
  • i just knew it from the start .. dont expect to be balanced around your bp .... my 3 battlefields were all from 40k - 82k :D some group mates that was in a different swb's was the same.. its all mixed up very badly and unbalanced .. but thats the crosserver we already knew that would happen.. so just either pray for good luck in your battlefields or just put you on auto and chill
Yes;it was a known fact that we will get some high players(way over the us) but the difference in the numbers for example is too much-placing 2-3 with 55k or around power and the rest to be so high powered , when there are actual players registered to make it somehow even is hardly balanced.
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On 2017-05-26 04:43:53Show this Author Only
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The only cluster worth talking about with regards to the cross server sage is the magnitude of the cluster f*ck it actually was/is not to mention that we clearly showed we didn't want it because we all knew it would be a cluster..(as above).

I'll try to be constructive though (I'm not sure anyone will listen but hey I'm bored).

Considering the huge power gaps that (lets be honest) will not go away, why don't oasis change the reward system?

I don't know what happened in China or in Germany but the updates are all the same in one time frame or another so all this stuff was planned, pre-arranged.

Why not at least increase the spots that get rewards, not just the top 3 because really, even if a 50k bp player runs an immortal team (it's what space time and now this xserver sage is making many if not most players do which ruins everyone's fun) his/her chances of being in the top 3 when most players are between 60k to 100k is very slim.

On my sage bracket the power varied between 50k (EDIT* maybe less but I didn't fight any lower) to 110k, I expect this to be the norm because I don't see a way for oasis to change it, I mean just look at Matsuri.

I know it would take alot of work probably but maybe reward, say, top 5 to 7 players per field, rewards at your discretion (well everything is..) but please don't go giving ramen and dangos... Give less Advance runes or some mood scrolls, lvl 3/2 magas or whatever but make it FAIR and WORTHWHILE to the players.

Well these are my thoughts what do you guys and gals think? This post was last edited by StonnyMc at 2017-5-25 20:47 This post was last edited by StonnyMc at 2017-5-25 20:47
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On 2017-05-26 04:50:32Show this Author Only
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  • XIButterflies On 2017-05-26 04:40:26
  • Yes;it was a known fact that we will get some high players(way over the us) but the difference in the numbers for example is too much-placing 2-3 with 55k or around power and the rest to be so high powered , when there are actual players registered to make it somehow even is hardly balanced.
there arent enough 70k players to fill a swb bracket so other lvl 90s need to fill the spots and im 57k power and loved the new xserver swb cause it only gave close fights, just so you know 57k vs 70k is winable if you have a good team and dont just copy immortal teams This post was last edited by Syldor at 2017-5-26 04:52
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I think easiest way for them to understand how bad this is is for us just not to sign up so the ones who now is happy about it get how screwed up it is. I wont attend anymore rewards is hardly worth the frustration that it brings until they fix this * i wont recharge anymore no reason to when im up against people with 20-30k+ power more than me, no way im going to spend whats needed to beat them. This post was last edited by PeNMaX at 2017-5-26 04:58
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  • The only cluster worth talking about with regards to the cross server sage is the magnitude of the cluster f*ck it actually was/is not to mention that we clearly showed we didn't want it because we all knew it would be a cluster..(as above).

    I'll try to be constructive though (I'm not sure anyone will listen but hey I'm bored).

    Considering the huge power gaps that (lets be honest) will not go away, why don't oasis change the reward system?

    I don't know what happened in China or in Germany but the updates are all the same in one time frame or another so all this stuff was planned, pre-arranged.

    Why not at least increase the spots that get rewards, not just the top 3 because really, even if a 50k bp player runs an immortal team (it's what space time and now this xserver sage is making many if not most players do which ruins everyone's fun) his/her chances of being in the top 3 when most players are between 60k to 100k is very slim.

    On my sage bracket the power varied between 50k (EDIT* maybe less but I didn't fight any lower) to 110k, I expect this to be the norm because I don't see a way for oasis to change it, I mean just look at Matsuri.

    I know it would take alot of work probably but maybe reward, say, top 5 to 7 players per field, rewards at your discretion (well everything is..) but please don't go giving ramen and dangos... Give less Advance runes or some mood scrolls, lvl 3/2 magas or whatever but make it FAIR and WORTHWHILE to the players.

    Well these are my thoughts what do you guys and gals think? This post was last edited by StonnyMc at 2017-5-25 20:47 This post was last edited by StonnyMc at 2017-5-25 20:47
I personally avoided using immortal teams(since I don't like winning that way) but right now seems impossible to do sage without one when I am placed with only or 98% with players with at least 15-20k power advantage against me. And knowing from my own server that the distribution is bad.They only reason some of them managed to beat some players was because they decided to start this sage with a bliz team or a healers team. At least in matsuri you have a chance of getting players near your power(if you get the timing right)
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On 2017-05-26 04:57:22Show this Author Only
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  • Syldor On 2017-05-26 04:50:32
  • there arent enough 70k players to fill a swb bracket so other lvl 90s need to fill the spots and im 57k power and loved the new xserver swb cause it only gave close fights, just so you know 57k vs 70k is winable if you have a good team and dont just copy immortal teams This post was last edited by Syldor at 2017-5-26 04:52
I can understand that; but placing 2-3 players who have around 55k power in a sage with only players that gotten 65k++(talking about power over 75k here) is really hard to excuse. And we all know from space event that people who have 70k give or take are not that little in number for one sage... This post was last edited by XI*erflies at 2017-5-25 23:59
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Its easily fixed if they didnt try to fill the battlefield completely focusing on balanced team rather than full teams. if they WANTED to. They can set constraints on what players can join they just didnt care enough to do that.
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On 2017-05-26 05:02:36Show this Author Only
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Then dont sign up anymore i wont and that way they will have even more people telling then how * this * is all people i saw that was happy about it in my server were those that managed to get in the 2nd bracket instead of the highest one
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On 2017-05-26 05:42:19Show this Author Only
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  • PeNMaX On 2017-05-26 05:02:36
  • Then dont sign up anymore i wont and that way they will have even more people telling then how * this * is all people i saw that was happy about it in my server were those that managed to get in the 2nd bracket instead of the highest one
i was highest bracket as 57k and i loved it only 55k+ people to fight, what means super close fights and not stomps all around.
yes there are a few people i cannt beat because of the power difference but its a lot better than just either stomp on everyone or getting stomped
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  • Syldor On 2017-05-26 05:42:19
  • i was highest bracket as 57k and i loved it only 55k+ people to fight, what means super close fights and not stomps all around.
    yes there are a few people i cannt beat because of the power difference but its a lot better than just either stomp on everyone or getting stomped
Then i might say u were really lucky im around 60k power and got wrecked hard.
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On 2017-05-27 00:36:38Show this Author Only
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  • PeNMaX On 2017-05-26 06:00:26
  • Then i might say u were really lucky im around 60k power and got wrecked hard.
i call this skill not luck ^^
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On 2017-05-27 02:23:10Show this Author Only
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  • Syldor On 2017-05-26 04:50:32
  • there arent enough 70k players to fill a swb bracket so other lvl 90s need to fill the spots and im 57k power and loved the new xserver swb cause it only gave close fights, just so you know 57k vs 70k is winable if you have a good team and dont just copy immortal teams This post was last edited by Syldor at 2017-5-26 04:52
57k vs 70k winable??are you for real??idk who you played against...I got 62k bp, and no one under 65k can win against me, 57k teams get 1 shotted by me...
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On 2017-05-27 02:46:33Show this Author Only
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  • Syldor On 2017-05-26 05:42:19
  • i was highest bracket as 57k and i loved it only 55k+ people to fight, what means super close fights and not stomps all around.
    yes there are a few people i cannt beat because of the power difference but its a lot better than just either stomp on everyone or getting stomped
Mine is the moment I get a streak, someone 40 - 70k higher will camp me out for a free kill. No amount of skill will let you win in those situations. Consider yourself lucky to be not lumped in with the big spenders.
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