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1＃ Go ToOnce Again Thnx for taking consideration of the community's opinion xD epic disappointments incoming in the future aswell :)
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Unpopular opinion here: I thin you own a part of the fault...You're one of the big spenders, and you keep spending, so in their heads they think they can get away with anything, because you kept spending even after Ari showed their true face...
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
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- DrDoo On 2017-05-25 08:00:33
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Unpopular opinion here: I thin you own a part of the fault...You're one of the big spenders, and you keep spending, so in their heads they think they can get away with anything, because you kept spending even after Ari showed their true face...
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
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now he cant farm newbies xd -
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- DrDoo On 2017-05-25 08:00:33
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Unpopular opinion here: I thin you own a part of the fault...You're one of the big spenders, and you keep spending, so in their heads they think they can get away with anything, because you kept spending even after Ari showed their true face...
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
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''If there is evil in this world, it lurks in the hearts of man.''
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- LordMeul On 2017-05-25 09:00:25
- now he cant farm newbies xd
i will laugh hard when the matchmaking will be 50k vs 75k and they will start complaining in the forums about this.. i dont even care about newbies i was always have fights also with same bp as me in my SWB.. you will see what will happen they all are gonna stop lvling up and you will fight against low level people with over 70k bp in the future while you will have around 60k in the same level.. and something extra in china they dont even have crosserver SWB they have GNW which is 100000 times better and more accurate ..The solution for the servers that doesnt start SWB was to start merging them .. but not they decided to open new servers instead of merging servers with low population. thnx peace! and i am a big spender btw i dont care much but i care for my group mates that will be in disadvantage.. cause we all know how their matchmaking is.. they dont even know how to edit or code something properly not even the completed ones they fuked up in translation also,,, so yeah good luck with that -
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well i dunno man. that poll was 2 months ago. and people lately have complained a lot about not being able to do SWB. so i honestly think that if a new poll will be opened with the same topic, id say the results will change. and imo, cross server SWB is better than a merged server doing SWB cause in a merged server, the top player among the merged server will still be the top in that merged server. its like stronger players gets to be even more stronger while weaker player gets to be even more weaker. while on a cross server, they'll be grouped. i cant really say something more about it though cause we havent experienced it first-hand yet but who knows, maybe it'll be good. -
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only reason, most people are complaining is,, cause its based on LEVEL NOT POWER. For 5+ months people on my server, watch as these low level people with High power Farming Sage
Then they changed it, and they couldnt farm anymore. No more could they get 1st place,, as they where force to fight people around there power range
My issue is it should of been grouped by POWER. Your a level 60 that spent over 5k dollars and have over 80k power. Guess what u should be fighting level 90, not people at your level with 20k power
All this does is make people Camp level , which in turn what did u solve, if they want to make it FAIR make it based on POWER -
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The problem here was simply one: servers that managed to make swb start didn't want it to be cross server. Other servers wanted it to be or didn't care because they didn't even remember it existed. In general is way better to have it cross server than to not have it at all, but there was a way to make both happy and was to modify the cross server code to avoid a server in taking part in it if there were enough people to make it start intraserver. That way only the servers that weren't able to get one by themselves would have taken part in the cross server version of it. But if they had no will to do it this way then is better to have it cross server, it's fairer for all the servers that weren't able to get one for weeks and is fair also for the others. What changes is simply that whales are no more 100% sure to get 15 advanced refinement per run since they will fight among themselves. The whole point of this is by how many people will a field be composed. -
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Another thing to keep in mind is that while the majority voted no, 826 people (44%) voted yes. Not sure why people keep exaggerating saying "no one" asked for this and "everyone" hates the idea of cross server sage when it's clear almost half the people voted yes.
I can see why people are upset, but I'd wait until actually experiencing it before complaining. A lot of people complaining seem so jaded and cynical from existing cross server stuff that this is the only way they can express themselves. At a certain point, if you have that little faith in this game, why not just quit? -
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A difference of opinion here;
It would appear to me that this will greatly affect (and be the most vocal against) the ones that currently dominate their servers and constantly rank top. In my server, for example, there is one group that is vastly overpowered. It is to the point that they literally take turns throwing the fight to each other in *ternating fashion so they can reap the rewards.
No one can do a thing because they literally are 30k power above the next closest person. THIS is unacceptable. I'm not that high in power myself, but knowing that even if/when I get to lvl 90 and still be about 50~60k power below them would hardly be fair. Also consider the fact that this is literally the ONLY way to reliably farm Adv. Refine Runes.
Sorry if this sounds like bad news to you if you currently dominate, but you won't get much sympathy from those of use that are constantly at your mercy. This post was last edited by Sidious at 2017-5-25 16:19 -
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- Zelgadis~ On 2017-05-25 15:32:04
- The problem here was simply one: servers that managed to make swb start didn't want it to be cross server. Other servers wanted it to be or didn't care because they didn't even remember it existed. In general is way better to have it cross server than to not have it at all, but there was a way to make both happy and was to modify the cross server code to avoid a server in taking part in it if there were enough people to make it start intraserver. That way only the servers that weren't able to get one by themselves would have taken part in the cross server version of it. But if they had no will to do it this way then is better to have it cross server, it's fairer for all the servers that weren't able to get one for weeks and is fair also for the others. What changes is simply that whales are no more 100% sure to get 15 advanced refinement per run since they will fight among themselves. The whole point of this is by how many people will a field be composed.
exactly but i am sure they cant even code that.. they cant even do proper translations so i really dont have any hope about it -
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Xserver pros and cons:
Pro:
--It's good for servers w/o sage
--It's good for server w/ bullies (when you are being bullied)
--It's good for players who are really behind compared to the rest of the server for whatever reason
--It's good for level campers or low level high power ptw (this is not due to Xserver in and of itself, but the level>power thing)
Con:
--It's bad in terms of reward per person: fields are going to be rather large, much larger than most sages now, even if we consider infusion of more players from servers that can't start sage, chances are there will be fewer number of total # of sage and therefore fewer number of top 3 rewards.
--Group 1 of each server cluster is going to be hell. Given the fact that there tends to be bigger power disparity on the top most section, top 10 usually being 15-50k above then 20th ranked player, there will be a large number of player who have absolutely no chance now. Compared to w/o Xserver, even on servers with bullies, it's usually not impossible to get top 3 SOMETIMES, because there usually aren't enough super ptws in the server to keep everyone dominated. On the other hand, in a sage where there are 20+ player with 15k+ power over you, it would be quite the different story.
--It's bad for a lot of the players who are currently winning.
--There is a good chance that every ftp that's not 90 yet will get shafted due to lower level high power ptws. (this is not due to Xserver in and of itself, but the level>power thing)
Overall, Xserver sage will end up hurting more player than it helps. This is a statistical certainty given con #1. Yet at the same time, it might be somewhat more fair (would be MUCH more "more fair" if sorting is based more on power than level). To put it simply, it's like socialism, everyone gets less on average but everyone gets something and the gap between the top 1-5% and the bottom 50% lessens. -
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cross server is part of an update that they will eventually push. The polls and anyone's opinions doesn't matter to them. But then everyone is so blinded here.
If it makes you happy by talking about not wanting it then go on, but yeah we will eventually get it no matter what. Oh and it ain't going to be tweaked too. -
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- PraiseLuka On 2017-05-25 17:40:20
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Xserver pros and cons:
Pro:
--It's good for servers w/o sage
--It's good for server w/ bullies (when you are being bullied)
--It's good for players who are really behind compared to the rest of the server for whatever reason
--It's good for level campers or low level high power ptw (this is not due to Xserver in and of itself, but the level>power thing)
Con:
--It's bad in terms of reward per person: fields are going to be rather large, much larger than most sages now, even if we consider infusion of more players from servers that can't start sage, chances are there will be fewer number of total # of sage and therefore fewer number of top 3 rewards.
--Group 1 of each server cluster is going to be hell. Given the fact that there tends to be bigger power disparity on the top most section, top 10 usually being 15-50k above then 20th ranked player, there will be a large number of player who have absolutely no chance now. Compared to w/o Xserver, even on servers with bullies, it's usually not impossible to get top 3 SOMETIMES, because there usually aren't enough super ptws in the server to keep everyone dominated. On the other hand, in a sage where there are 20+ player with 15k+ power over you, it would be quite the different story.
--It's bad for a lot of the players who are currently winning.
--There is a good chance that every ftp that's not 90 yet will get shafted due to lower level high power ptws. (this is not due to Xserver in and of itself, but the level>power thing)
Overall, Xserver sage will end up hurting more player than it helps. This is a statistical certainty given con #1. Yet at the same time, it might be somewhat more fair (would be MUCH more "more fair" if sorting is based more on power than level). To put it simply, it's like socialism, everyone gets less on average but everyone gets something and the gap between the top 1-5% and the bottom 50% lessens.
So true m8.Even tho a lot of ppl wanted Xserver Sage,when they see all those hard p2w guys with so much more power,they will be disappointed. -
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Well, it is like Oasis said in the first place, they were "only" postponing it. So we all knew that it was going to happen no matter what. And yes, Sage will turn into a battlefield for high powered people, that is for sure. It will be a casher event. Nothing more. I don't really care about it. Haven't had a Sage in ages due to low registrations and now with the cross server I am not even bothering with it anymore. :lol -
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