The only triple healer team that works as good as you point out is tsunade hokage, sailor sakura + a tank. Every other full 3 healers team doesn't work as good as that one (yes, kabuto or shizune could be a good substitute for hokage tsunade even if still not even close to her and no other ninja could be a good substitute for sakura sailor uniform). So, lets talk honestly about that lineup.
That lineup uses an uncommon ninja and an ultra pay to win ninja, so, to do a comparison, you have to make it with comparable lineups.
As for example the followings:
1st: Crimson fist with Naruto Ninetails chakra 4 star, Onoki/Gaara 5th kazekage, Iruka/Bee.
2nd: Cursed Hidan, Hashirama/Danzo, Bee/Iruka, Scarlet Blaze.
3rd: Sasuke susano'o, Danzo, Iruka/Mifune, Midnight blade.
Now if you honestly think that team on par power and initiative is stronger than the 3 i've talked about then we have a point of discussion.
Otherwise we just do comparisons between kabuto/shizune, kimimaro/amber/choji/choza, sailor sakura, azure fang teams and other more or less common teams we can have out there. This post was last edited by ayr***@yahoo.com at 2017-6-14 16:51 This post was last edited by ayr***@yahoo.com at 2017-6-14 16:52

If i'd wanted to kms i woulda jumped out of the balcony not wait 10 rounds every fight to kill me of old age. Cancer healer teams are cancer but what is even more cancerous is poison stacking up to 4 times. IF they wanna balance that they should make burn stackable too and heal not cleansing every layer of debuffs in a single skill.

Another thing to keep in mind about MB is that yes, Root lasts for Round 1 and 2 with 100% resistance buff and immunity - but also if they are using Lightning Armor it will make them immune to debuffs. This can get confusing if the battles moving fast and you see "Immune to debuffs" pop over the MB's head.

It's also relevant to note that debuffs and ninjutsu isn't the only way to kill a ninja. Many MBs are countered by the same strategy, initiative permitting. An earth main front tank should basically negate a blitz team's strategy with optional talents to spare. I was able to choke a 140k bp player's blitz team by using the stacking def passive with sakura/tsunade and Akatsuchi to eat the other line of attacks. This post was last edited by Loaf at 2017-6-14 17:47

I don't know about you guys, but here is the stat in my space time and server ranking.. Never seen immortal team.. Because MB team is frgging op

Immortal teams are pretty much what cause immortal teams to spread. So if you don't have them in those top 10 lists it just means no players have become smart enough to use it to defeat more powerful blitz teams.

Not saying I would use an immortal team myself, but one has to admit that it is definitely powerful enough to defeat stronger blitz teams.
EDIT: When people call them cancer teams they usually do it because of the way that it kills you. Very slow and painful. But for me, I call them cancer teams because of the manner in which they spread. And if it gets past a critical breaking point, GG. In my server group we are pretty much at Stage 4.
This post was last edited by Beji at 2017-6-15 11:55

Immortal teams are pretty much what cause immortal teams to spread. So if you don't have them in those top 10 lists it just means no players have become smart enough to use it to defeat more powerful blitz teams.
Maybe it;s true..

Let's say, it have 100 immortal team on rank 1-2000. So what is your point? At the end, it still MB that go to top 3

That all we want right? Become the top.

And from what I assume from your quote, MB = * people that only can pay more money to win, Immortal = Smart player that can win vs * people who can only spend money?
This post was last edited by ari***@yahoo.com at 2017-6-15 13:42

Didn't mean to trigger you. For the record I dislike immortal teams. But those guys who are at the top ain't winning because they are MB. They are winning because of the extreme power advantage.

And what I'm saying about immortal teams, the 95k FM could probably beat the 104k LM if he switched to an immortal team. I'm saying this to talk about how OP they are.

Some argue that it IS smarter to use immortal team and to some degree they are correct. But only because it's cheap. You can't seriously think that the 125k LM is only at the top because he is LM. He could be almost anything and still be at the top. Lightning blitz teams are only OP when they have a huge power advantage, I've never lost to a blitz team at my power level. (Well I shouldn't say NEVER because formations do play a factor in that as to who gets focused by standards etc...but I digress) This thread is talking about how OP Watermains are for being immortal, not how OP Lightning Blitz is for spending $10k on power.

If you don't have any cancer teams in your Space Time good on you, and honestly I envy your cir*stances. But don't bring those "Top 3 MBs" into this because they are in that position based on how much money they have spent...not because their teams are particularly OP.

EDIT: Also, just wanted to say I'm sorry if I sound arrogant about this..I promise I'm not trying to put you down or anything. I'm just very skeptical of any data that contradicts what I have observed myself. While I know that I will not be right all the time and therefor I am open to suggestion and criticism, in this particular case I have studied immortal teams and blitz teams both first hand. They each have their strengths and their problems...but from what I have observed the Immortal teams are more OP than Blitz teams. Nothing else allows you to fight outside your power range quite like them. Which is good for immortal teams, and there is an argument to be made that it is wise to use the OP thing to win. I just don't think that the healing is balanced, and I do have personal problems regarding that. However, this is very much a controversial topic.


This post was last edited by Beji at 2017-6-15 14:40

Food for thought, a player with super high power would choose LM blitz over immortal team if he can beat everyone else with either team.
Why? Because even if immortal is stronger, it doesn't matter as he will win anyway. On the other hand, immortal team is relatively slow where as LM blitz is fast. Why spend one and half minute to win your battle if you can win it in 30 seconds with a blitz?

So at anytime, you probably should not take the top most players into consideration when you want to argue which class/team is strongest, because it's possible that winning/strength is no longer a consideration as it is assured regardless and they are pursuing other objectives.

To be clear, I am NOT saying water is stronger than LM or vice versa. Just wanted to point out this bit.