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On 2017-05-19 08:14:58Show All Posts
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There should be no negative points before you reach 6 paths the first time.
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On 2017-05-19 08:50:38Show All Posts
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  • On 2017-05-19 08:35:50
  • As in the first time in your game life, or 1st time each month?
First time in your life. The negative system is perfectly fine after you have season rewards unlocked.

Main issue is that most players will never, ever be able to unlock season rewards if they lose points when they lose. By removing point loss before you reach 6 paths the first time, this whole mess would be solved.
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On 2017-05-20 12:31:20Show All Posts
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  • UchihaShay On 2017-05-20 10:13:47
  • Im just gonna say this, and this is a fact btw...

    start building your refines, magatamas, and purifying runes, especially iniciative, but ofc you going to lose to people who have been playing this game longer than the recent servers, that's a fact, nothing you can do about it, and i think there's a limit threshold which servers you can be in a arena with, unless someone has proof that has been fighting let's say "player from server 2 vs players from server 120" ofc the older server player is most likely going to win, even if it is like that, you going to be discouraged by couple losses?

    Regarding new players, unless OASIS come clean with arena threshold on fighting among servers, new players shouldnt be even encouraged to do arena imo, why are they doing it, in the first place, beats me.

    Now servers depopulation, that's a whole other matter, that would be going off topic, and that's not only affecting arena, but overall other events.

    The nutshell version i have to say to you is, dont be discouraged if u lose by a higher iniciative player, i've beaten people with pain teams, and cursed hidan team before, as i lost with people with beginner ninjas, arena is only about iniciative and team comp and bit of strats.
I'm on server 236. At the start of this arena season, I asked my opponents what server they are from after reaching anbu. Most that answered are from double digit servers, with multiple from server 14. That's a pretty huge gap in terms of server age, and hence initiative.

I spend money and use resources in a very optimized manner; there are less than 100 players in this giant LA bracket with higher overall initiative than me. I have yet to meet a single opponent at kage+ who has lower initiative than me. If a player like me has no chance of ever winning initiative, what chance do newer players have? Saving refines ain't doing much when players on older servers are still gaining initiative. As hard as you try, you will never catch a much older f2p player without spending a huge amount of money on refines.

Reality is.. once your server goes cross-server; if you didn't reach 6 paths yet, you will never reach it short of spending a couple grand to make up for the server age difference.

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What makes this current system even worse is that the total number of arena points are decreasing. More points are removed at the end of a season from ppl with seasons unlocked, than points being generated by season rewards and winning streaks. Since players who didn't reach 6 paths don't get a negative point reset; they just end up more and more negative, until they give up. This current system is inherently flawed and biased against players who never did reach 6 paths.
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On 2017-05-20 14:23:04Show All Posts
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  • UchihaShay On 2017-05-20 12:52:10
  • But in the end, does your rank go down?
I get monthly resets because I got 6 paths before cross server. I will be stuck at super kage forever and never reach 6 paths otherwise. One of the opponents I met is at 46 - 20 at the time of facing me this season. He got to super kage pre-cross server, and could never get out of the negative hole since.
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