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On 2017-04-02 01:24:30Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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I'll point out straight away this is more of a vent than anything else, so I do apologize but after playing for months and never talking I feel the need to.

Is the english version of this game salvagable or is it too late?

I've had a look at Chinese and Taiwenese versions and they are better in every conceivable way. better events offering better characters for much cheaper than the ones we get.

we get sage naruto 100 points per frag
they get raikage 50 points per frag, road to ninja hinata 15 coupons per frag

our mabui lightning store - 1 seal scroll 100 coupons, or sailor sakura for $99.99 worth of ingots, could buy mutliple games, maybe even collectors editions for less than oasis charge us for a single character
they get- 3 seal scrolls 240 coupons

our monthly character giveaway- hebihime
theirs- itachi

we have 2 different types of "clothing" - cowboy and kimono
they have seemingly dozens, watch any video on youtube and look at the variety

they have dozens upon dozens of characters we don't

since oasis open new servers every 5 second's and dont have merging old ones as a priority the servers are dead from week they open, and given the whole drama that happened recently even more people are leaving. My server has only had 2 active groups for over 4 months now and in the last GNW my group had 3 participants and the opponents had 5. By contrast foreign versions of the game have issues with overpopulation causing lag and people are even talking about introducing a system of deleting players that havent been online in a certain amount of time to deal with it.

we've only had enough people to run sage battlefield once this year, and the devs idea to "fix" that by merging servers makes no sense since people who dont have deep pockets already get frustrated losing to people they know, let alone not getting any rewards because they get spammed by high paying strangers.

the devs idea of matching is a joke i have got 32k power, since making matsuri cross server ive yet to face a single opponent with less than 40k power and thats not even an exageration.

the arena should be a good way for f2p people to get some decent characters since all the characters are levelled to 100, but initiative ( the most important stat in the game) is still in effect, and level isnt everything for example I dont have any passive barrier casters and only have a few 5 star characters, I don't have much of a chance against the standard arena teams of -water main, mei,mabui tenten gnw Or fire main, danzo, sage jiraiya, sage naruto all 5 stars.

Anyway don't expect anyone to actually read all of that and hopefully it wont get my account blocked, as I said I just needed to vent as its so frustrating to see a good game and the only MMO ive ever played being ruined because its being managed so poorly.


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On 2017-04-02 01:30:49Show this Author Only
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You are looking at a game 2 years ahead of our version in terms of updates. China actually had even worse rewards 2 years ago than what we have; other than having konan in the shop. 2 years of updates don't appear overnight.

Matsuri matchmaking is miserable for players 25k - 32k power, because thre are very few players between 32k and 39k. 32k TI alone easily get you 5k pow in a single week. Once you get past that "void" yourself, matchmaking get a lot better.

Arena matchmaking *s. The system could be improved significantly if you disable point loss for players who have never reached 6 paths.
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On 2017-04-02 02:29:25Show this Author Only
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Price wise. I think they seem to definitely be milking us.

But in terms of content, like what IamAscrub said, they are ahead of our time. So you can't compared that. Just like in the working world. You just started and you feel that the boss knows everything and its impossible for you to know it all, so you should just quit work cause your boss will always be better. But one day, you'll catch up to his stage, but of course he might progress as well. A never ending chase cycle.
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On 2017-04-02 03:14:07Show this Author Only
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Just saying, even if we do catch up, things here will be still way way more overpriced and outrageous, what is my main issue with this game. And probably many others. So I pretty much can expect more and more ppl leaving as long OASIS wont care about this.
So far spent around 700-1k on this game, mostly in micro transactions. But since I seen that stream I did not recharge nor planning. Still keep playing but mostly just so-so. I rly like/liked this game, but if they wont change a thing, I wont recharge for sure.
Still everything is shady, used 700 or so seal in Kage but still dont see the end when I would get Susano Sasuke either, and prices just keep going up. This post was last edited by ger***@gmail.com at 2017-4-2 03:18
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On 2017-04-02 06:15:01Show this Author Only
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at least u can do ranked arena ...in my server cross server arena isn`t working ( stayed 3 or 4 times in over 30 mins queue time and just gave up since no enemy ) ... and in my server , where only 15 active ppl are left no one even wants to do ranked arena ..they just do training battles to do the missions and that1s it ...
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On 2017-04-02 07:08:35Show this Author Only
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  • IamAscrub On 2017-04-02 01:30:49
  • You are looking at a game 2 years ahead of our version in terms of updates. China actually had even worse rewards 2 years ago than what we have; other than having konan in the shop. 2 years of updates don't appear overnight.

    Matsuri matchmaking is miserable for players 25k - 32k power, because thre are very few players between 32k and 39k. 32k TI alone easily get you 5k pow in a single week. Once you get past that "void" yourself, matchmaking get a lot better.

    Arena matchmaking *s. The system could be improved significantly if you disable point loss for players who have never reached 6 paths.
And why should they give us the lesser game that they know is worse?

Why should they not update us to be, up to date.

It's just mind*ingly bad not to do so.
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On 2017-04-02 07:38:32Show this Author Only
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China's 3 years into their game cycle so its only natural that they have more ninjas and the reason why they can afford to give away so much or sell so cheap is because it doesn't affect the game since theyre so far in that most people have the majority of characters they need anyways.
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On 2017-04-02 07:39:49Show this Author Only
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Oasis could easily show that they care about their playerbase.

To sell ninjas for seveal times more then tripple A games is just not the right way.
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On 2017-04-02 07:43:53Show this Author Only
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  • Richorn On 2017-04-02 07:08:35
  • And why should they give us the lesser game that they know is worse?

    Why should they not update us to be, up to date.

    It's just mind*ingly bad not to do so.
because the game isn't designed to be sustainable, it's just designed to trod along hoovering up money from dumb whales and anyone else braindead enough to pay money for a "game" like this. I had to quit, I didn't like how all new treasures are already developed and they just wait to release them out of greed, because they know the game model makes no sense long term.

Why dont they even release the new ninja exams now? there's no reason not to, They just take the piss.
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On 2017-04-02 09:10:41Show this Author Only
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  • because the game isn't designed to be sustainable, it's just designed to trod along hoovering up money from dumb whales and anyone else braindead enough to pay money for a "game" like this. I had to quit, I didn't like how all new treasures are already developed and they just wait to release them out of greed, because they know the game model makes no sense long term.

    Why dont they even release the new ninja exams now? there's no reason not to, They just take the piss.
That mindset is the problem, they could make much much much more money over time if they did it differently.

Going hard and then dying is worse then going smooth and living for an eternity.

Not to mention you will get a good rep and gain more people to join.
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On 2017-04-02 10:22:37Show this Author Only
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  • because the game isn't designed to be sustainable, it's just designed to trod along hoovering up money from dumb whales and anyone else braindead enough to pay money for a "game" like this. I had to quit, I didn't like how all new treasures are already developed and they just wait to release them out of greed, because they know the game model makes no sense long term.

    Why dont they even release the new ninja exams now? there's no reason not to, They just take the piss.
I would be very if you the embodiment of the toxicity on this forum actually quit. Most of your post just like this one have no argument whatsoever other than baseless accusation and I am surprised to see you still haven't got banned
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On 2017-04-02 10:24:48Show this Author Only
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What's baseless about it? New versions dont even get QOL of life changes, if you can tell me one good reason why a new version can't simply start on 2.0 then I'll never post again. Let alone all the other *
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On 2017-04-02 11:13:41Show this Author Only
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  • What's baseless about it? New versions dont even get QOL of life changes, if you can tell me one good reason why a new version can't simply start on 2.0 then I'll never post again. Let alone all the other *
You throw in the straight 4.0 version that china currently has and 90% of the ninjas we are using right now will be garbage, player be bombed by tons and tons of event that they don't know how the * do they function (Chinese version almost has 4 times the number of activity that we currently have). Will the toxicity be decreased because of that? No. The Chinese forum is still full of complain as we do. And of course on a business perspective, having the game progress will be better for the income since every new era has new ninja that counter the meta before it (Kushina Triggered > Passive Immune, Hans > Root & Blitz, Passive Barrier > Manual Barrier, etc...). Also as the version get more complex you would need more optimize on everything, skill, stat, pricing, etc.... Releasing the game at an early stage and let it progress will make it easier to optimize unlike throw in a bunch of stuff and fck everything up from the ecosystem to the meta.
Now what advantage that you think would come if they give us straight 2.0 or 4.0 version? You wanna get free stuff or cheaper stuff like hidan 2 or sage naruto? It's because they are all out of meta right now in China. Do china get free Temari Swimsuit? Do they get free rares from the GNW treasure? Hell no. Free power? What's the different between a server with all 100k power and a server with all 10k power? Nothing. I agree that recently the game is boring as hell and really need new content, dev know that and has been working hard on it but it doesn't mean it's a good ideal to throw in all of them at once.
Oh and seems like from your point of view there is absolutely no positive thing about this game since I have never seen a positive post of yours on this forum. Is bond system not good for you and it should be get rid of? Is the way they give out BA Rebate right after Panic Buy just like usual that bad that you want it to be completely random, unexpectable? Is the normal pricing in Time-Limited Recruitment so bad that it should be either lowered by 50% or doubled? If this game is so bad why are you still keep playing? Just quit.
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On 2017-04-02 11:35:07Show this Author Only
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First of all I like how you went straight to exageration and started talking about 4.0 or whatever the * that is, when that's not what I asked.

Secondly, no one cares about a pathetic "meta" in which it's already known what is going to be good, and I find it laughable that this game could ever include something that's hard to figure out, unless it's a job of garbage translation.

Thirdly, I don't give a * about ingot events so that's irrelevant, however our events are the worst since our version apparently has the most whales, so I actually have quit, basically, I still log on to do survival when it strikes my fancy but I essentially have stopped doing everything else. The idea of being drip fed like this when the content is there but is basically held back for no reason annoys me too much.
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