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On 2017-03-26 09:14:20Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Ok first of all i got a problem with 5'th Kage Treasure , i got from kage treasure 4-5 Rare ninja , Killer Bee , Gaara 5'th Kazekage , Chojuro , Darui

and my last 3 rare hawe been in last 2 week's and i got DUBLICATE for KILLER BEE . GAARA . CHOJURO , is THIS A F> joke ?
did , i really spend money for rare to get dublicate , i start tinking that is something wrong with my account as i got attachemnt wich i can't extract .
this isn't possible

Name : Al3x
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and this isn't all i hawe tiket at customer service , when i got lv80 i could not use my jonin medal to sweep mission , and i needed to contact service support to change it , even i pay for something and i didn't get now again is happening something with the account .. i wait for some answers , thanks This post was last edited by 115***@facebook at 2017-3-26 09:18
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On 2017-03-26 09:17:52Show this Author Only
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That attachment just doesn't work... that's why they sent the other ones.
(Not like that's the main problem right now... there are much more pressing things to discuss.)
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On 2017-03-26 09:20:37Show this Author Only
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  • Dosu On 2017-03-26 09:17:52
  • That attachment just doesn't work... that's why they sent the other ones.
    (Not like that's the main problem right now... there are much more pressing things to discuss.)
ok i understand that i dont even care about that , other thing is more important for me , why is keep going with same ninja over and over again , is trolling litteraly
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On 2017-03-26 09:33:53Show this Author Only
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  • Al3x On 2017-03-26 09:20:37
  • ok i understand that i dont even care about that , other thing is more important for me , why is keep going with same ninja over and over again , is trolling litteraly
I believe the first 3 or so rare pulls in each treasure are guaranteed to be unique, after that, it's fully random.
And given that there are 8 rares(I think, others are super, ryt?), once you have 5, chances are you will get a duplicate.
Now, 3 duplicate in a row is on the unlikely side, but only barely, at 24% chance.

You are, as far as I know, the first one to complain about this on a treasure, but this topic have came up quite a few times on summon, which I'm sure you can imagine will encounter the repeating threshold much easier.

On a side note, using the coupon collector's problem, the estimated number of rares you need to pull before getting the full set is:
If 3 non-duplicate are guaranteed(including those first 3): 21.27
If 4 non-duplicate are guaranteed: 20.67
If 5 non-duplicate are guaranteed: 19.67
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On 2017-03-26 09:48:13Show this Author Only
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  • PraiseLuka On 2017-03-26 09:33:53
  • I believe the first 3 or so rare pulls in each treasure are guaranteed to be unique, after that, it's fully random.
    And given that there are 8 rares(I think, others are super, ryt?), once you have 5, chances are you will get a duplicate.
    Now, 3 duplicate in a row is on the unlikely side, but only barely, at 24% chance.

    You are, as far as I know, the first one to complain about this on a treasure, but this topic have came up quite a few times on summon, which I'm sure you can imagine will encounter the repeating threshold much easier.

    On a side note, using the coupon collector's problem, the estimated number of rares you need to pull before getting the full set is:
    If 3 non-duplicate are guaranteed(including those first 3): 21.27
    If 4 non-duplicate are guaranteed: 20.67
    If 5 non-duplicate are guaranteed: 19.67
first one hawe been Chojuro , last week after 1 hour i done again 60 pulls and i got Gaara got to angry and done around 40 pulls more and stoped today i done 20 pulls and got Killer Bee , wich is too much already , i can't deal with 3 dublicate , isn't legit , as thre problem with jonin isn't working on my account and needed to contact the service support to fix it ,shall i contact them again ? or i need to do further action's ?
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On 2017-03-26 12:59:16Show this Author Only
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If you think that's an issue check all this out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=*&feature=youtu.be
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On 2017-03-26 16:55:50Show this Author Only
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On 2017-03-27 03:34:29Show this Author Only
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im still waiting for answer .
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On 2017-03-27 03:37:15Show this Author Only
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I believe the first 3 or so rare pulls in each treasure are guaranteed to be unique, after that, it's fully random.

That is the answer - I've used 1500 seals on Kage and I've pulled Onoki only very recently for the first time. Random is random - the only advice is pray to the RNG gods :(
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On 2017-03-27 03:46:02Show this Author Only
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  • Anjia On 2017-03-27 03:37:15
  • I believe the first 3 or so rare pulls in each treasure are guaranteed to be unique, after that, it's fully random.

    That is the answer - I've used 1500 seals on Kage and I've pulled Onoki only very recently for the first time. Random is random - the only advice is pray to the RNG gods :(
That is above par, as even with only 3 guaranteed non-dup the expected number of rare required is only 21.27, which means a bit under 1300 pull

But at the same time, 1500 isn't exactly far off from the par.

Assuming, that is, onoki is your last one, as the last one is the hardest (regardless of which it is), accounting for over 1/3 of the total required. If it's your second-to-last rare, then you are way above par, almost 2x.
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On 2017-03-27 03:49:57Show this Author Only
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On 2017-03-27 03:52:48Show this Author Only
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treasure trolled ya ;-'
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