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On 2017-03-12 19:23:45Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Dont know if this is intended or not but when I use torunes poison aoe on an opponent that has more initiative (especialy those lightning blitz teams) I dont get my bonus chakra on the same round (round 1), which makes casting danzos izanagi impossible (I have to do this to keep my main alive for round 2 so he can cast his flame dragon) and sometimes when I do get the bonus chakra that is 10chakra per hit and I initiate danzos mystery he only casts it on round 2. honestly I dont know what the hell is going on with this game but from the looks of it everything about this game benefits paying players.

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On 2017-03-12 20:51:02Show this Author Only
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You can only absorb as much chakra as the enemy has in that given time.
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On 2017-03-13 23:40:01Show this Author Only
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  • Yunomegasai On 2017-03-12 20:51:02
  • You can only absorb as much chakra as the enemy has in that given time.
also one more thing, I noticed that if the enemy team has more initiative and a ninja with some kind of chakra steal especially standered attacks that steal chakra, their ninjas attacks first even if I have a prompt interrupt already cast
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On 2017-03-13 23:44:59Show this Author Only
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  • Yunomegasai On 2017-03-12 20:51:02
  • You can only absorb as much chakra as the enemy has in that given time.
to be honest there are some really serious problems in the game I think, for some reason my iruka always interrupts sasuke even in teams that have 5k more power, I have yet to encounter a sasuke that my iruka cant interrupt, but for some reason ao goes first even if the opponent has lower power then me, I have yet to encounter an ao that goes after I use irukas mystery (also I know ao is immune to interrupt)
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On 2017-03-13 23:47:04Show this Author Only
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  • Attac an Respec On 2017-03-13 23:44:59
  • to be honest there are some really serious problems in the game I think, for some reason my iruka always interrupts sasuke even in teams that have 5k more power, I have yet to encounter a sasuke that my iruka cant interrupt, but for some reason ao goes first even if the opponent has lower power then me, I have yet to encounter an ao that goes after I use irukas mystery (also I know ao is immune to interrupt)
iruka has prompt sasuke doesnt
its not a bug just logic
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On 2017-03-13 23:48:54Show this Author Only
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  • Attac an Respec On 2017-03-13 23:44:59
  • to be honest there are some really serious problems in the game I think, for some reason my iruka always interrupts sasuke even in teams that have 5k more power, I have yet to encounter a sasuke that my iruka cant interrupt, but for some reason ao goes first even if the opponent has lower power then me, I have yet to encounter an ao that goes after I use irukas mystery (also I know ao is immune to interrupt)
sasuke's barrier is a non-prompt mystery, which means, it will go off after all the prompt mysteries such as Iruka's mystery
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On 2017-03-14 05:22:43Show this Author Only
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  • Attac an Respec On 2017-03-13 23:44:59
  • to be honest there are some really serious problems in the game I think, for some reason my iruka always interrupts sasuke even in teams that have 5k more power, I have yet to encounter a sasuke that my iruka cant interrupt, but for some reason ao goes first even if the opponent has lower power then me, I have yet to encounter an ao that goes after I use irukas mystery (also I know ao is immune to interrupt)
I think you need to learn more about the game first before posting anything new ;)
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On 2017-03-14 14:39:27Show this Author Only
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  • Yunomegasai On 2017-03-14 05:22:43
  • I think you need to learn more about the game first before posting anything new ;)
still no one has explained why chakra depleting standard attacks go first vs prompt mysterys if the enemy has more initiative.
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On 2017-03-14 14:59:36Show this Author Only
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Can you give an example? I dont see standard attacks going off before prompt mysteries unless u were super slow to cast the mystery...
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On 2017-03-14 15:19:06Show this Author Only
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  • Attac an Respec On 2017-03-14 14:39:27
  • still no one has explained why chakra depleting standard attacks go first vs prompt mysterys if the enemy has more initiative.
I use kisame a lot, I can guarantee this doesnt happen lol.
Only way is you lag way too much, or you click your mystery after the timing window has passed for the ninja to perform his standard.
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On 2017-03-15 02:45:41Show this Author Only
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  • Slacker. On 2017-03-14 15:19:06
  • I use kisame a lot, I can guarantee this doesnt happen lol.
    Only way is you lag way too much, or you click your mystery after the timing window has passed for the ninja to perform his standard.
but this happened to me in arena, opponent had torune in first position and it was the very first round, I immediately used my irukas mystery on his torune because he/she was using pretty much the same strategy as me, however torune attacked first. now I don't remember if that was a torune clone or his own standard attack but the bottom line is no kind of standard attack should go before a prompt mystery, if it isn't a bug then the only explanation is lag.
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On 2017-03-15 02:47:19Show this Author Only
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  • Slacker. On 2017-03-14 15:19:06
  • I use kisame a lot, I can guarantee this doesnt happen lol.
    Only way is you lag way too much, or you click your mystery after the timing window has passed for the ninja to perform his standard.
also I didn't know there is a timing window for prompt mysterys, I thought as long as you click it before a standard attack you will go first unless they got a faster prompt.
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On 2017-03-15 03:10:14Show this Author Only
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  • Attac an Respec On 2017-03-15 02:47:19
  • also I didn't know there is a timing window for prompt mysterys, I thought as long as you click it before a standard attack you will go first unless they got a faster prompt.
That is true if you have no lag. (and for the record, it's NOT just internet lag, your flash rendering ability matters too)
The "timing" before ANY move is made in each round is so that you can Q up your mysteries early, so that lag don't get to you.

Sounds like you are not doing the mystery in that safe period and instead try to do it once the round "really starts", at which time lag gets to you.
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On 2017-03-15 05:44:07Show this Author Only
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Tbh the only aspect i find annoying is, tobirama's is hardly a prompt, find it always going last like tendo, even in slot one with L8 Refines, with purple gold puri int. and L7-8 Int. Cave runes. Quite laughable, for such an expensive ninja to obtain. The fact It never goes first is the only reason I don't run him, even if it says prompt it hardly is. So he like all the other kage are strictly ranked, they are good for nothing else which is saddening.
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On 2017-03-15 18:49:12Show this Author Only
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How come a prompt is hardly a prompt? It either is or isn't.
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On 2017-03-16 03:14:16Show this Author Only
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  • Kaimen On 2017-03-15 05:44:07
  • Tbh the only aspect i find annoying is, tobirama's is hardly a prompt, find it always going last like tendo, even in slot one with L8 Refines, with purple gold puri int. and L7-8 Int. Cave runes. Quite laughable, for such an expensive ninja to obtain. The fact It never goes first is the only reason I don't run him, even if it says prompt it hardly is. So he like all the other kage are strictly ranked, they are good for nothing else which is saddening.
See that is exactly what I am talking about, for some reason some ninjas move first compared to others no matter what, for example Ao always moves first with his acupuncture vs neji even though they have same mystery, (unless neji is non-prompt, I never really used the f2p ninjas much because I got lucky with gakido and conan pretty early so I ran a wind team with recharge garra). also hinata and sennin tsunade do their mystery first even vs iruka but Ao can out speed all of them, its like every ninja has a hidden built in base initiative stat. also note that Ao goes first vs neji even if neji is 1st slot and Ao is in the second slot.
This post was last edited by sop***@gmail.com at 2017-3-16 03:16
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On 2017-03-16 04:44:20Show this Author Only
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  • Mitrandir On 2017-03-15 18:49:12
  • How come a prompt is hardly a prompt? It either is or isn't.
Was sarcasm at the fact it is stated as prompt, but the mystery is applied like a non-prompt.
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On 2017-03-16 04:46:50Show this Author Only
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  • Attac an Respec On 2017-03-16 03:14:16
  • See that is exactly what I am talking about, for some reason some ninjas move first compared to others no matter what, for example Ao always moves first with his acupuncture vs neji even though they have same mystery, (unless neji is non-prompt, I never really used the f2p ninjas much because I got lucky with gakido and conan pretty early so I ran a wind team with recharge garra). also hinata and sennin tsunade do their mystery first even vs iruka but Ao can out speed all of them, its like every ninja has a hidden built in base initiative stat. also note that Ao goes first vs neji even if neji is 1st slot and Ao is in the second slot.
    This post was last edited by sop***@gmail.com at 2017-3-16 03:16
I know some moves are faster than others, but to some degree, this doesnt always matter assuming i have literally double the initiative of the person I'm facing if not more, and I'm in slot 1, and it still goes last? yeah no thank you.

But if correspondence to you, there are ninjas who are faster, but as far as I'm aware off, initiative also helps with placement. or else you'd see everyone running pure cc accu teams, if these ninjas were faster regardless of int.
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On 2017-03-16 08:05:29Show this Author Only
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  • Attac an Respec On 2017-03-14 14:39:27
  • still no one has explained why chakra depleting standard attacks go first vs prompt mysterys if the enemy has more initiative.
How about elaborating which ninja casted what mystery. Because prompts go off b4 standard attacks. If you have high ping/lag ofc it can happen that mystery doesnt go off first. Everything how the game works has already been explained. So I don't see the reason to say it one more time.

Edit: after reading some more of your bs...

See that is exactly what I am talking about, for some reason some ninjas move first compared to others no matter what, for example Ao always moves first with his acupuncture vs neji even though they have same mystery, (unless neji is non-prompt, I never really used the f2p ninjas much because I got lucky with gakido and conan pretty early so I ran a wind team with recharge garra). also hinata and sennin tsunade do their mystery first even vs iruka but Ao can out speed all of them, its like every ninja has a hidden built in base initiative stat. also note that Ao goes first vs neji even if neji is 1st slot and Ao is in the second slot.
So after reading this, Iam just like... what am I reading HERE, this is wrong on so many levels. No Neiji wont go after Ao if Ao is on 2nd slot and Neji on 1st. Then you must have lags like hell. But what are you even talking about here? Ninja exam? Arena? Survival Trial? Sealed Ninja? If you are talking about Ninja exam or Sealed Ninja, those are special cases where the game wants it to make harder for you and basically disable certain game functions such as initative etc.
This post was last edited by Yunomegasai at 2017-3-16 08:10
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On 2017-03-17 01:46:07Show this Author Only
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  • Yunomegasai On 2017-03-16 08:05:29
  • How about elaborating which ninja casted what mystery. Because prompts go off b4 standard attacks. If you have high ping/lag ofc it can happen that mystery doesnt go off first. Everything how the game works has already been explained. So I don't see the reason to say it one more time.

    Edit: after reading some more of your bs...

    See that is exactly what I am talking about, for some reason some ninjas move first compared to others no matter what, for example Ao always moves first with his acupuncture vs neji even though they have same mystery, (unless neji is non-prompt, I never really used the f2p ninjas much because I got lucky with gakido and conan pretty early so I ran a wind team with recharge garra). also hinata and sennin tsunade do their mystery first even vs iruka but Ao can out speed all of them, its like every ninja has a hidden built in base initiative stat. also note that Ao goes first vs neji even if neji is 1st slot and Ao is in the second slot.
    So after reading this, Iam just like... what am I reading HERE, this is wrong on so many levels. No Neiji wont go after Ao if Ao is on 2nd slot and Neji on 1st. Then you must have lags like hell. But what are you even talking about here? Ninja exam? Arena? Survival Trial? Sealed Ninja? If you are talking about Ninja exam or Sealed Ninja, those are special cases where the game wants it to make harder for you and basically disable certain game functions such as initative etc.
    This post was last edited by Yunomegasai at 2017-3-16 08:10
why are you so jello mate, I just simply wrote about what happened to me, now if you have a problem with that then that's on you. Sometimes people kinda forget that this is a freemium game and 99% of the time paid ninjas are going to be just better then farm-able free2play ninjas. now if you want to go into specifics I can go on all day long about how there is your total initiative and then there is each individual initiative of your ninjas and how it depends on your ninja placement who goes first etc etc, but after all of this calculation etc we still don't know how much initiative the opponent has. so you cant just say that neji will go first if Ao is in the second slot, also you should know that the only real pvp is matsuri in this game and that is broken as hell too.
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