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1＃ Go ToI think people having multiple accounts needs to be discussed. As much as I like having a second account, it's easy to cheat the game with them. Now with plundering, people create smurf groups or put their smurfs into other groups and use them to plunder for free coupons. Flowers are another thing as well, but that's not as big of a deal. From GNW to Sage to Arena, smurfs are now being used to the players' advantage to cheat the game. I think we need to take a step back and look if this is an okay thing to do and if the devs are okay with us doing it.
I do hate to bring it up because that means our group will be plundered to bits as we are the weak group, but I think it's just not right. And what I've read about the rules, alternate accounts aren't mentioned. Not only that, but inactive people handing their accounts to another person in game (not buying or selling, just for free because I know that it isn't allowed) so that they can continue to get the dailys and be used in war and such.
To be fair, this game is dying. Multiple people are getting bored with it, including myself, and so alternate accounts lets the game continue to be playable for the people who still want to play. I mean, over half our server is smurf accounts or people using another person's account.
I don't know, I just thought it needed to be brought up and discussed because it is being abused to cheat the game, but is it necessary due to the lack of people playing? There's a lot of pros and cons on the table here.
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- Niji On 2017-03-06 11:02:44
- Not sure why having multiple accounts would be a problem as it's one of the things contributing to keeping this game alive.
Yeah I know but isn't that sad? The fact the only thing keeping this game alive is people making multiple accounts? Literally the only thing. The fact we have to use our alts to be able to do nine tails, sage, gnw, etc is because everyone has at least 2 accounts? -
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- NoobityBoobity On 2017-03-06 11:14:16
- Yeah I know but isn't that sad? The fact the only thing keeping this game alive is people making multiple accounts? Literally the only thing. The fact we have to use our alts to be able to do nine tails, sage, gnw, etc is because everyone has at least 2 accounts?
I suppose it is sad. But it makes sense why so many people lose interest in the game. It's very repetitious, which many find boring after a while and the timed events cut into a lot of people's free time.
If you don't do things on the game every day, you can fall behind pretty quickly, which would discourage anyone that's spent money or time into the game. -
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- Niji On 2017-03-06 11:25:27
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I suppose it is sad. But it makes sense why so many people lose interest in the game. It's very repetitious, which many find boring after a while and the timed events cut into a lot of people's free time.
If you don't do things on the game every day, you can fall behind pretty quickly, which would discourage anyone that's spent money or time into the game.
And the fact that people who are f2p get frustrated at people who pour money into this game. Seen a lot of f2p people snap because some guy with $5,000 one hit killed them lol. Not gonna go on a huge tangent about f2p and p2p because there is really no point -
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- NoobityBoobity On 2017-03-06 11:32:29
- And the fact that people who are f2p get frustrated at people who pour money into this game. Seen a lot of f2p people snap because some guy with $5,000 one hit killed them lol. Not gonna go on a huge tangent about f2p and p2p because there is really no point
The people in my server are the opposite. xD We had a lot of pay to win players that would get angry because free players beat them in some way or another.
But yeah. We just recently had one of our heavy pay to win players quit - not sure the reason since he's not in my group. -
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First of all, thank you for the idea. Now I can plunder guilt-free. ;P
Second of all, is there a mmorpg without any alts?
It's true, using alts could help you farm certain things in the game (Arena pre-2.0 comes to mind). But I don't see why receiving acount from people who quit playing is so bad though. I mean, they quit; and so long as you aren't scamming the system or others players with it, then it shouldnt be a problem, right?
i don't mind the alts on my server. Arena and Matsuri are cross-servered now. Alts in Sage are pretty fun; because free wins, plus they guarantee Sage in quiter server. Veteran group leaders know how to identify spies, plus there's the Whte List, so alts's advantage for GNW is pretty moot. As for plundering alts, that only applies for dead servers; in normal server that alts would be torn to shreds convoying even before you could hit "refresh". :).
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- Niji On 2017-03-06 12:01:02
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The people in my server are the opposite. xD We had a lot of pay to win players that would get angry because free players beat them in some way or another.
But yeah. We just recently had one of our heavy pay to win players quit - not sure the reason since he's not in my group.
Seeing it here too. Although our top p2w is still kicking. The second best one I'm friends with and he's tired of the game. -
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- Watanuki13 On 2017-03-06 12:13:10
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First of all, thank you for the idea. Now I can plunder guilt-free. ;P
Second of all, is there a mmorpg without any alts?
It's true, using alts could help you farm certain things in the game (Arena pre-2.0 comes to mind). But I don't see why receiving acount from people who quit playing is so bad though. I mean, they quit; and so long as you aren't scamming the system or others players with it, then it shouldnt be a problem, right?
i don't mind the alts on my server. Arena and Matsuri are cross-servered now. Alts in Sage are pretty fun; because free wins, plus they guarantee Sage in quiter server. Veteran group leaders know how to identify spies, plus there's the Whte List, so alts's advantage for GNW is pretty moot. As for plundering alts, that only applies for dead servers; in normal server that alts would be torn to shreds convoying even before you could hit "refresh". :).
So, all in all, it's fine.
I don't mind it either, but it seriously feels like cheating imo. I can't believe so many people didn't think of the smurf group idea o-o -
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tbh its a population issue more than anything. Alts become less and less useful as the population of the server grows. U dont know the other spectrum of dealing with too many people for gnw, (why is gnw limited to 54 people and member limit 116), *t in this case becomes very bad since you would deal with * lag with that setup. In addition adding more people to swb would be bad since u basically give free wins to the competition. Basically, im more inclined to say that we need some drastic merges for the servers that are affected ie 5-8 servers merged cause it seems like the numbers need to go way up in groups to get the full experience. -
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Honestly, and this isnt meant to you specifically, I feel like so many players here have problems with everything. Maybe its an age thing, most mmo style games i play are adult oriented. I played Marvel avengers alliance on facebook for years, and that one was very kid friendly as well.
Yet somehow the people on that game didnt complain even 1/10 as much and its basically the same problem, except if you were behind..there was no "new server' to join.
At the end of the day its a mmo style game, people get bored, they quit, they make alts to keep the game. Wow has about 1 alt to every 10 non alts. Since some people make around 10 "alts" when the game gets boring. Theres no real cheapening the game, its how these games are meant to be played. Its literally every game.
So if you are younger youll realize later people dont make the alts to make the game cheap or cheat. Its just to do something "different" and make a bad character design less frustrating.
At the end of the day..just enjoy the game honestly. UNLESS!! a persons alt is ruining your game experience. However, there is really no way that should be a thing in this particular game. Some mmos it can be, but really no way to "camp" someone or a similar type of game ruining ability with alts -
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http://forum.naruto.oasgames.com/en/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=15050&extra=page%3D5
This has been brought up and ignored.
What i want to know and i was late to that thread is the Avg server pop which he said was wrong.I thought 125 player per server was a fair number
But to me he must think just cause there 240k people register on forums he took that number and divided it by the server count which gives u about 600+ people per Serer which is just Mad
So i want to know what they think the Real Server Avg is and how they got it,Cause in there minds they think Nothing is wrong, cause Server merge request thing does not exist to them cause they think each server has 150+ active people
When they understand that Server really dont have 150+ people playing and they take a min to go to this page http://forum.naruto.oasgames.com/en/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=37
They will then understand that people do have alts ,there 150+ active people per server is a myth
If thats wrong,why even have a server merge request page then,
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Alternate accounts are technically not allowed, although it isn't stated in the rules, multiple mods have posted in threads before saying it isn't allowed. However the rules on it are not heavily enforced, thats why people with alternate accounts don't get punished. If alternate accounts do ever somehow become a huge problem, I believe the Mods would deal with it then, but at this point the only advantage alts give is really just free plunders, and free wins in sage war, which isn't even many wins due to the morale system, they'd get kicked out after 3 losses.
Game is dying, and I myself am going bored of it. I literally log on just to do dailies, which isn't even hard since I can instant complete them, sweep with my stamina, and then sit in hot springs for 2hours as I do other things. I've spent a lot of money on this game and I can't nor will I quit because of that reason. If I had not spent as much money as I did, I would be gone already honestly. You're on same server as I am, so you know the top 2 (Drin and I) aren't nearly online as much as before. Just come on for dailies, or GNW. Heck, we hardly do Sage anymore either, just mainly GNW. I don't even convoy or plunder. This post was last edited by StrikeExia at 2017-3-6 13:19 -
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- dlp2323 On 2017-03-06 13:15:24
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Alternate accounts are technically not allowed, although it isn't stated in the rules, multiple mods have posted in threads before saying it isn't allowed. However the rules on it are not heavily enforced, thats why people with alternate accounts don't get punished. If alternate accounts do ever somehow become a huge problem, I believe the Mods would deal with it then, but at this point the only advantage alts give is really just free plunders, and free wins in sage war, which isn't even many wins due to the morale system, they'd get kicked out after 3 losses.
Game is dying, and I myself am going bored of it. I literally log on just to do dailies, which isn't even hard since I can instant complete them, sweep with my stamina, and then sit in hot springs for 2hours as I do other things. I've spent a lot of money on this game and I can't nor will I quit because of that reason. If I had not spent as much money as I did, I would be gone already honestly. You're on same server as I am, so you know the top 2 (Drin and I) aren't nearly online as much as before. Just come on for dailies, or GNW. Heck, we hardly do Sage anymore either, just mainly GNW. I don't even convoy or plunder. This post was last edited by StrikeExia at 2017-3-6 13:19
Is Drin even on anymore? Like you and Hiroto are it and then all the Clan that went to Anbu since you guys have group skills one level higher th*. This game is pointless to spend money on. Wish I woulda known that 6 months ago :/ -
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If u ONLY look at the GNW system u can realize how far (far far away) we are from call our servers "Actives" .. just considering final rounds on saturday (not counting qualifiers) , it should be 8 groups participating, 9 chars per land, 6 lands , so 8x9x6= 432 chars.
So what is my point with all this, we will never be able to fully enjoy the game (wich is why ppl make alts), and we all now what is the main reason why. So play the game and have fun if u can, and dont expect anything because we are never going to play in a "NORMAL" server. This post was last edited by Chu90 at 2017-3-6 09:55 -
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- dlp2323 On 2017-03-06 13:15:24
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Alternate accounts are technically not allowed, although it isn't stated in the rules, multiple mods have posted in threads before saying it isn't allowed. However the rules on it are not heavily enforced, thats why people with alternate accounts don't get punished. If alternate accounts do ever somehow become a huge problem, I believe the Mods would deal with it then, but at this point the only advantage alts give is really just free plunders, and free wins in sage war, which isn't even many wins due to the morale system, they'd get kicked out after 3 losses.
Game is dying, and I myself am going bored of it. I literally log on just to do dailies, which isn't even hard since I can instant complete them, sweep with my stamina, and then sit in hot springs for 2hours as I do other things. I've spent a lot of money on this game and I can't nor will I quit because of that reason. If I had not spent as much money as I did, I would be gone already honestly. You're on same server as I am, so you know the top 2 (Drin and I) aren't nearly online as much as before. Just come on for dailies, or GNW. Heck, we hardly do Sage anymore either, just mainly GNW. I don't even convoy or plunder. This post was last edited by StrikeExia at 2017-3-6 13:19
^This. I believe mods have repeatedly said that people with alts would have action taken on them when they are reported to the mods. However, I believe that many people (including people in this thread) are guilty of owning alt accounts to plunder and get coupons.
With so many prominent members (people who play the game regularly) of this game owning alternate accounts, I doubt real actions would be taken and for the rule to be reinforced. Personally I do see it as unfair too; if you can't spend 3 hours waiting for plunders, go convoy for goodness sake. The daily 150 coupons added up would give such a massive power boost - not that it is a bad thing, but it is forced and repetitive and really *s the fun out of the whole event in the first place.
Even if you don't plunder the weaker members of the server, someone else is bound to. Even if no one eventually plunders them, what is their 30 coupons compared to the 150 you get for virtually free? It just seems like an exploit to the whole system that shouldn't have or meant to have existed. -
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