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1＃ Go ToBecause tobi and mates don't really get it how frustrating for players that didnt reached 6path when it was easy..
I'll relay by points:
FIRST: matchmaking was implemented
SECOND: cross over was implemented
And this 2 things are unfair for many because? I wont tell, seems devs are in the same carrosell as already 6path people. They just cant see. All is written many times by many players around forum. YOU WANT TO COMUNICATE? Please, stop telling its fair such bull*.
I didn't want to share this, but idiots with 6path just made me.
I understand not understanding, or nor caring, but this is bull*.
Not ever forever getting full rewards is bull*.
This is today my 70 arena run trial.
Team: Fire main, Onoki, tobi, Akatsuchiki.
Make all conclusions you can make. This is bull*.
EDIT: i am kage rank, but as you can see in the blue line, arena matchmaking gets you to fight several ranks.
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I'm guessing that matchmaking is purely based on rank and not on credit then, which is why you are getting the same pool of people despite the drop in points.
I'd guess that the enemies are "around" your rank, which means you are probably either anbu or jonin or so.
The thing with start of new season is that all the strong players are dropped to special jonin, and therefore they will be matched against you. My guess is that once they've had their fill and move on to beyond kage, your matchmaking will be more "fair" because the people who are still stuck around your rank are probably people who are also relatively weak compared to those strong people who are now super kage or back to six path.
In any season based event, if the top ranked player get dropped into lower ranks, the first 20-50% of the season would be the most difficult to climb, this have been shown in a number of games. My advice to you is that if you are having trouble, come back and try this again later. -
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What Arena is for me: if I ever manage to win a match, the next match I get paired with one of the same 5 guys that * me in two, max three rounds. 300+ server, an I always get the same guys? Yeah right. Too bad it'll take me months to reach Super Kage again (if ever), but if I do, that will be my last rank arena match ever. -
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This was one tiresome weekend, with this updates..
More tiresome is how some mods like tobi cant (despite excellent rep) can't understand how normal players feel.
This is my last post. After this test drive of 70 Arena rounds, and among other stuff, i understand fully this game is for paying people; one thing i don't criticize (since i did the same twice but low).
Ill just ask everyone to ask mods this once and then: "did any suggestion made by a player got implemented?"
off arena.
PS: "My advice to you is that if you are having trouble, come back and try this again later." .. wow
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- On 2017-02-22 05:32:53
- GET A GUD TEAM AND INITIATIVE OR U WILL NEVER GET TO SIX PATH. six path is supposed to be hard and not for filthy f2p that dont support oas.
There's no need to insult free to play players, some of them have good teams, I get the initiative part, but don't you think you could've said that a bit better?
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- RZA On 2017-02-22 06:33:00
- Everyone know how works ranked battle but the reward system * (seasons reward) at least we have training battle now so you can earn the daily credits much easier and dont contnue the f2p p2w fiasco its even *
Matchmaking is also *! 80% of the time I am queue'd against someone with higher initiative and isn't balanced. It should be matching you with power (current team outside of arena or overall bp) and not rank. Your rank in arena should have zero influence on who you queue against because it's just a rank and has no effect on how powerful you are. I am gonna try arena again today. Pretty sure I am still negative rank, but I will update if I notice any differences. This post was last edited by Koncept at 2017-2-22 06:42 -
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Matchmaking is also *! 80% of the time I am queue'd against someone with higher initiative and isn't balanced.
I never have the initiative in Arena. This must mean I am the slowest player of the entire game. Yet, before 2.0 it wasn't difficult to reach Six Paths, because I didn't get paired with the ever same opponents. This post was last edited by Rally Vincent at 2017-2-22 06:54 -
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- Koncept On 2017-02-22 06:41:14
- Matchmaking is also *! 80% of the time I am queue'd against someone with higher initiative and isn't balanced. It should be matching you with power (current team outside of arena or overall bp) and not rank. Your rank in arena should have zero influence on who you queue against because it's just a rank and has no effect on how powerful you are. I am gonna try arena again today. Pretty sure I am still negative rank, but I will update if I notice any differences. This post was last edited by Koncept at 2017-2-22 06:42
This isn't true, for one thing, init doens't scale with power all the time, especially when it is easy to buy with money. There are ptw with higher init at 30k power than ftp at 45k power. Secondly, given the same power, those who have access to wider array of ninja wins, which is also ptw.
On the other hand, arena rank will EVENTUALLY equalize to the point where player's arena prowess, which is init and ninja compo, will settle into "proper" ranks, so that player of same rank are of roughly same strength. -
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- Rally Vincent On 2017-02-22 07:20:39
- Matchmaking is broken. From my last 10 fights, I had the same guy six times and another one three times. No way is this truly cross server.
Or maybe most people have given up... I mean just look at the number of post on forum about quitting arena!!! -
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- Rally Vincent On 2017-02-22 07:29:31
- But there are over 300 servers, and even if you substract the ervers that aren't older than 60 days, there have to be some other players. And yet, there are only a handful of opponents each day. Something can't be right.
Did you re-Q right after each fight?
If so, it's not surprising at all (I'd explain, but I don't want to give an explanation on an assumption)
If not, arena either have problems, are not fully Xserver(but instead just have clusters) and/or is more dead than I think.
Granted, there probably are clusters, specifically I expect them to be broken down by region. I mean while unlike masuri, which is certainly divided due to event time, arena CAN be fully cross server, I do expect there might be logistical problem with that. So the biggest cluster might be around 50-100 server, if all server of each region are "together" -
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- PraiseLuka On 2017-02-22 07:07:18
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This isn't true, for one thing, init doens't scale with power all the time, especially when it is easy to buy with money. There are ptw with higher init at 30k power than ftp at 45k power. Secondly, given the same power, those who have access to wider array of ninja wins, which is also ptw.
On the other hand, arena rank will EVENTUALLY equalize to the point where player's arena prowess, which is init and ninja compo, will settle into "proper" ranks, so that player of same rank are of roughly same strength.
This also isn't true I have been at rank 33 for 3-4 days now and majority of the time I am getting people with higher initiative. If it goes by power and level you will get paired with people more fairly then it is now. At the moment it is broken. This is why rank points is flawed. First off starting at the beginning of the month people who are below 30k bp will be placed against people with much higher bp then them because there are both have 1 rank point (12 if they hit six paths) and they will start getting negative points. Which is seeming impossible to get back to positive (speak from experience).
Second reason, as you may know a lot of people quit arena even if getting paired with rank points was more fair. What if no one is in your bracket what happens then? You get paired with someone who is either higher or lower rank points then your self.
Can't think of a third reason at the moment, but the main issue is most people are versing people with higher initiative then themselves running op lineups like (KK Gaara, Sage, Jigo, WB) (Mabui, GNW Tenten, Mei, AF) (Cursed Hidan, MB, Mifune, Darui) ect... I know every lineup can't be countered but if they are running these teams and have higher initiative they will 90% of the time win because you can control them or out damage them if you don't have the initiative. -
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- Rally Vincent On 2017-02-22 07:41:43
- I queue for Arena again right away about 70% of the time. Sometimes I have to check group chat or something else which I can't see from the Arena waiting room.
then those 70% of the time you will most likely get the same person again.
It goes like this, for starters, each "cluster", like I said, only have 50-100 server.
Given how few people actually do arena, the number of participant might be 50 (note a lot of servers are kinda dead, the first 5 of each region might supply 10-20 of that)
The number of people you can be matched to, due to rank, is about 20.
Assuming average of 15s in Q, 15s loading and 3 min battle, only 1/14 of that, or 1-2 of that, is in Q at anytime.
You know who is almost certainly in Q at the same time as you? The person who you just fought who might have also re-Qed immediately, ergo super high chance of getting him again.
If you get someone twice in a row and lose to him (and expect to lose to him if faced again), don't re-Q right away, instead wait around 90s so that he is probably beating up some other poor chap then re-Q, you will likely get a different person.... unless arena is way more dead than what I'm estimating here.
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