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Daiske Adolf Registered: 2017-07-24 Topics: 11 Posts: 122 On 2017-02-18 15:50:48 ｜ Show this Author Only ｜ Descending Order 1＃ Go To Come on now, deleting my post? Because you refuse to give a legitmate answer? That is jsut sad and such poor business practice. I presented the evidence of pretty much the top Mod here, saying on thing, then saying another, and you's and him wont take ANY responsibility. Hell, you's have even said "We'll try harder" Its the same thing each week, excuse after excuse. We NEED and DESERVE clarification behind this. Why is it that you think its okay to just give a little apology and not take responsibility? Why do you's delete posts that POINT OUT WHEN YOU'S DO SOMETHING WRONG? This post was last edited by Tobei at 2017-2-18 09:37 Reply

PraiseLuka

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On 2017-02-18 16:07:56 ｜ Show this Author Only

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I think the correct way to parse is that
There is no problem between communication of "the team" to the mods or the mods to US
But there was a problem from the devs to "the team".

Not everything that appear inconsistent are inconsistent.

That said, I too have caught people making inconsistent statement. My post there also got deleted, thou what amuses me is that the mod post that contained the inconsistency (compared to something else) ALSO got deleted... So it CAN happen sometimes. But you do have to give them the benefit of the doubt.... to some extend.

Daiske Adolf

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On 2017-02-18 16:14:38 ｜ Show this Author Only

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PraiseLuka On 2017-02-18 16:07:56
I think the correct way to parse is that
There is no problem between communication of "the team" to the mods or the mods to US
But there was a problem from the devs to "the team".

Not everything that appear inconsistent are inconsistent.

That said, I too have caught people making inconsistent statement. My post there also got deleted, thou what amuses me is that the mod post that contained the inconsistency (compared to something else) ALSO got deleted... So it CAN happen sometimes. But you do have to give them the benefit of the doubt.... to some extend.

I just want them to for once, take some form of responsibility. Its always the same thing, they never do, and each time something goes wrong "We;re sorry, we'll try to do better next time" Except, theres been10-20+ next times

I don't think im asking for too much, just transparency and when something goes wrong, they own up to. Instead,t hey either dodge the question, or just close/delete posts.

Beji

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On 2017-02-18 17:10:23 ｜ Show this Author Only

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I'm just a concerned third party on this matter but I think it would be best to remember that mods are people just like you. I get mad at them too sometimes but at the end of the day all they can do is try to learn from past mistakes and keep moving forward. Any time a unique situation is introduced, one that they have no prior experience with, you could and should expect a mix up here or there. It's new territory.

But this thing about the Six paths, I remember when the monthly arena rewards were first released I read about the rewards and it did say clearly in there that your rank would be reset if you were a sage of six paths.

There are things I would like for some mods to do better but don't group in all mods together. Aside from that, put yourself in their shoes. Imagine someone critiquing your every action and every mistake. based on your post patterns I'd be willing to bet you would be deleting some posts yourself if given a chance. I'm not judging you for that. I'm just saying "let he who is without sin cast the first stone." It's something of a motto of mine these days.

Reiko-Danna

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On 2017-02-18 17:14:51 ｜ Show this Author Only

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Beji On 2017-02-18 17:10:23
I'm just a concerned third party on this matter but I think it would be best to remember that mods are people just like you. I get mad at them too sometimes but at the end of the day all they can do is try to learn from past mistakes and keep moving forward. Any time a unique situation is introduced, one that they have no prior experience with, you could and should expect a mix up here or there. It's new territory.

But this thing about the Six paths, I remember when the monthly arena rewards were first released I read about the rewards and it did say clearly in there that your rank would be reset if you were a sage of six paths.

There are things I would like for some mods to do better but don't group in all mods together. Aside from that, put yourself in their shoes. Imagine someone critiquing your every action and every mistake. based on your post patterns I'd be willing to bet you would be deleting some posts yourself if given a chance. I'm not judging you for that. I'm just saying "let he who is without sin cast the first stone." It's something of a motto of mine these days.

*throws not a pebble, not a rock, but a boulder at them*
they have been doing things wrong and need to be held account for that. period. stop with the excuses. this has been weeks of misinformation and miscommunication.

Daiske Adolf

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On 2017-02-18 17:30:36 ｜ Show this Author Only

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Beji On 2017-02-18 17:10:23
I'm just a concerned third party on this matter but I think it would be best to remember that mods are people just like you. I get mad at them too sometimes but at the end of the day all they can do is try to learn from past mistakes and keep moving forward. Any time a unique situation is introduced, one that they have no prior experience with, you could and should expect a mix up here or there. It's new territory.

But this thing about the Six paths, I remember when the monthly arena rewards were first released I read about the rewards and it did say clearly in there that your rank would be reset if you were a sage of six paths.

There are things I would like for some mods to do better but don't group in all mods together. Aside from that, put yourself in their shoes. Imagine someone critiquing your every action and every mistake. based on your post patterns I'd be willing to bet you would be deleting some posts yourself if given a chance. I'm not judging you for that. I'm just saying "let he who is without sin cast the first stone." It's something of a motto of mine these days.

I would agree with you on the fact about how it said rank would reset, I know all about that, BUT, if you look at the pictures I posted, Daiske clearly says in the first one, that there were plans to NOT reset our ranks until the March season. Then he backtracks in the 2nd one that I posted about it,t hats what I have an issue with.

Had he not of said anything about us not being reset till next month, I would have ZERO issue with all this right now, but since he did, thats why I have a bit of a problem

Beji

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On 2017-02-18 17:37:06 ｜ Show this Author Only

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Look, not trying to play devils advocate here, but maybe he just misspoke. Like I said it was a mistake. I think it's important to stand up and fight when need be. But the key to that is choosing the right things to stand up about.

Respectfully, I do not think this is that thing. It's also possible he had every intention to keep his word about that and talk to the Devs on our behalf to cut us some slack over the Arena awards not working in the first place. But if the Devs didn't listen to him or rejected the idea he is left to hold all the blame. Just reading the situation from the outside that is the most likely scenario. So, there is a very real chance your are being mad at him for trying to help you.

There could be a lot of reasons of course, but I have my money on that one.

Tobei

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On 2017-02-18 22:37:28 ｜ Show this Author Only

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Daiske Adolf On 2017-02-18 17:30:36
I would agree with you on the fact about how it said rank would reset, I know all about that, BUT, if you look at the pictures I posted, Daiske clearly says in the first one, that there were plans to NOT reset our ranks until the March season. Then he backtracks in the 2nd one that I posted about it,t hats what I have an issue with.

Had he not of said anything about us not being reset till next month, I would have ZERO issue with all this right now, but since he did, thats why I have a bit of a problem

You're anchoring on what Deiske said, except he corrects himself later on. The rankings regardless were reset even when he spoke.

Yes, it was misinformation and I completely agree that transparency is absolutely important.
But in the same light, he owned up to that mistake and apologized for it instead of shoving it aside.
Additionally, there's plenty of threads talking about the situation at hand, from explaining the new rules to addressing community problems. I'm even replying to some nice well-written criticism posts, even though this isn't necessarily the right place for it.

Also, Benji is right. The moderation team are players as well. We absolute care about this community and try to push ideas regardless if we have different opinions on them.
Having a good dialog can go a long way, however anchoring on someone's actions even after they've apologized is moot.

Oh and just a small thing. Subject title matters for posts. "Bug" wouldn't count for this thread and because of that, it would be deleted. I'll correct it.
Additionally, I don't want this thread to become a "debate". If you @Ah Maze In wish to continue talking about the subject, feel free to PM me. This post was last edited by Tobei at 2017-2-18 09:43

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