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Can hinata with 3 healers become almost effectively immortal?
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On 2017-02-13 12:39:41Show this Author Only
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No, because she doesn't gain stat per hit, but rather with low hp.
Kimimaro on the other hand.... oh yes....
Edit: kimimaro on team with sailor sakura, with either earth main (shield + bodyblock) or water main (heals).... and... one more healer... yeah, let's not go there...
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On 2017-02-13 12:44:25Show this Author Only
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  • PraiseLuka On 2017-02-13 12:39:41
  • No, because she doesn't gain stat per hit, but rather with low hp.
    Kimimaro on the other hand.... oh yes....
    Edit: kimimaro on team with sailor sakura, with either earth main (shield + bodyblock) or water main (heals).... and... one more healer... yeah, let's not go there...
    This post was last edited by 117***@google at 2017-2-13 12:42
don't forget Kidomaru. Less used, but *. He even gives himself shields.
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  • JustAClone On 2017-02-13 12:44:25
  • don't forget Kidomaru. Less used, but *. He even gives himself shields.
I think Kidomaru is a bit easier to focus down early which breaks the entire build. Not sure if kimi have a bigger growth than kido, it does say second stage on the ability....

Also kimi have a better mystery, able to start combo and all, the cost isn't really an issue considering the build is for long battle.

So I'd say kimi is better in actual pvp, thou it's possible kido is equal or even better(due to shield, thus better surviving early RNG) in ranked battle.
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On 2017-02-14 01:41:16Show this Author Only
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  • PraiseLuka On 2017-02-13 12:39:41
  • No, because she doesn't gain stat per hit, but rather with low hp.
    Kimimaro on the other hand.... oh yes....
    Edit: kimimaro on team with sailor sakura, with either earth main (shield + bodyblock) or water main (heals).... and... one more healer... yeah, let's not go there...
    This post was last edited by 117***@google at 2017-2-13 12:42
kimimaro and kidomaro teams can be countered by a chaos cc team, I have done it myself. All you have to do is chaos and acupuncture the healers, I use Ao with gnw ino,fire main and paradise shikamaru
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On 2017-02-14 01:53:19Show this Author Only
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every team can be countered that doesnt mean that team is bad
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Her passive is not the same as regular Naruto's tho.
It reads that the higher the loss of life the higher the def and res. With healers, she can lose many times her own life bar.
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  • crazydodapienoo On 2017-02-14 05:39:46
  • Her passive is not the same as regular Naruto's tho.
    It reads that the higher the loss of life the higher the def and res. With healers, she can lose many times her own life bar.
There are two possible interpretation of the wording (which, unfortunately, is no more clear in the Chinese ver).
One, hp loss is described as the process of losing hp, therefore it works as you think
Two, hp loss is the current state of the character, in which case healed amount will counter act the effect.

In this case, I believe it is #2, because I'm fairly sure that there is no +stat animation when hinata is hit, which usually happens when it is a triggered (and semi-permanent/permanent) buff/debuff. If it was #1, every time hinata loss hp, she should be shown to gain stat.

Therefore, i don't think her ability works the way you think it does.
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  • PraiseLuka On 2017-02-14 06:48:38
  • There are two possible interpretation of the wording (which, unfortunately, is no more clear in the Chinese ver).
    One, hp loss is described as the process of losing hp, therefore it works as you think
    Two, hp loss is the current state of the character, in which case healed amount will counter act the effect.

    In this case, I believe it is #2, because I'm fairly sure that there is no +stat animation when hinata is hit, which usually happens when it is a triggered (and semi-permanent/permanent) buff/debuff. If it was #1, every time hinata loss hp, she should be shown to gain stat.

    Therefore, i don't think her ability works the way you think it does.
you are correct Hinata's Strong Will passiv works the same way Naruto's Strenght passiv works, its just inconsistency in the skill descriptions
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But Naruto's Strength passive is the same as Anko's? Wording is consistent with them.
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  • crazydodapienoo On 2017-02-14 10:43:38
  • But Naruto's Strength passive is the same as Anko's? Wording is consistent with them.
That might be, that doesn't mean hinata can't be the same as them despite the different wording.

And I've actually just tested this with 3 healers and hinata (water main in heal mode) against 3 teams of kakashi (who does fairly consistent damage). There is a noticable reduction in damage as hinata's health goes down (during enemy turn), up to around 40% less damage on average, but once healed up, the damage suffered return to what it was. I observed the fight for the full 10 round, hinata is not taking less damage on turn 10 than turn 1/2, except when she is low on hp, which is no less damage than when she is low hp on turn 4 etc.
So no, she does not work the way you think she does. This post was last edited by 117***@google at 2017-2-14 12:07
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