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KingCaz

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On 2017-02-08 13:25:02 ｜ Show this Author Only

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There is red ninja tools

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PraiseLuka

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On 2017-02-08 13:27:25 ｜ Show this Author Only

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none that I've seen, thou yellow certainly have quite a bit of range. resistance seems to be all 4, but the rest of them.... Knowing the range would really help refining, thou that's hardly a priority right now

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Sourav

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On 2017-02-08 13:52:04 ｜ Show this Author Only

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PraiseLuka On 2017-02-08 13:27:25
none that I've seen, thou yellow certainly have quite a bit of range. resistance seems to be all 4, but the rest of them.... Knowing the range would really help refining, thou that's hardly a priority right now

About the bonus stat range in yellow tools, Hard version of brother TI drops the red gourd. It can give higher bonus stat compared to others.
Reforged my red gourd to have it +79 att/+78 nin.
Others that we can get mostly goes upto +60 in att/nin. Most tool gives anywhere between 40-60 bonus stats in att/nin.
Def/res bonus stats are rare in my experience, but they tend to stay around +45 max or so.

While I agree that reforging is low priority now, but if any of your tool is lacking in HP/Att/Nin - reforging them to have those stats, gives quite a nice power boost. After lvl 15-16 , it takes a lot of tools to level them up just 1 level (which usually gives +10 att/nin or +8 def/res or some hp). Compared to that, using 6 tools to reforge a gear gives more benefit.

This post was last edited by Sourav at 2017-2-8 13:27

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PraiseLuka

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On 2017-02-08 14:28:53 ｜ Show this Author Only

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Sourav On 2017-02-08 13:52:04
About the bonus stat range in yellow tools, Hard version of brother TI drops the red gourd. It can give higher bonus stat compared to others.
Reforged my red gourd to have it +79 att/+78 nin.
Others that we can get mostly goes upto +60 in att/nin. Most tool gives anywhere between 40-60 bonus stats in att/nin.
Def/res bonus stats are rare in my experience, but they tend to stay around +45 max or so.

While I agree that reforging is low priority now, but if any of your tool is lacking in HP/Att/Nin - reforging them to have those stats, gives quite a nice power boost. After lvl 15-16 , it takes a lot of tools to level them up just 1 level (which usually gives +10 att/nin or +8 def/res or some hp). Compared to that, using 6 tools to reforge a gear gives more benefit.

This post was last edited by Sourav at 2017-2-8 13:27

problem is, once you reforge, you are semi stuck with the set of gear, especially if one of them have multiple super rare + super good stat (like your 79 atk/78 nin), this makes elemental more difficult.
Getting a full matching set of elemental would only require around 30-50 elemental stones, and about 200-400 for a perfect set (in other words, of combo of your choice, 5x nin, 5x atk, 3x life probably is best)

But if you had to work with a specific set of gear instead of being able to change, it would cost around about 120 for a full matching set and 600-1000 for a perfect set.

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S177Athrun

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On 2017-02-09 03:22:35 ｜ Show this Author Only

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PraiseLuka On 2017-02-08 14:28:53
problem is, once you reforge, you are semi stuck with the set of gear, especially if one of them have multiple super rare + super good stat (like your 79 atk/78 nin), this makes elemental more difficult.
Getting a full matching set of elemental would only require around 30-50 elemental stones, and about 200-400 for a perfect set (in other words, of combo of your choice, 5x nin, 5x atk, 3x life probably is best)

But if you had to work with a specific set of gear instead of being able to change, it would cost around about 120 for a full matching set and 600-1000 for a perfect set.

So you should reforge the tools that won't have a "red" version in the next TI update.
From what I can tell in other versions, we will be getting Red Mask & Red Sword.

I won't post the link but the next TI tools are up on wiki.
Me myself, i'll focus on leveling them and saving up the Red Gourds with the top attributes and using them to reforge when i'm L17-18 on my tools.

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s177 Kira

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On 2017-02-09 03:29:09 ｜ Show this Author Only

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S177Athrun On 2017-02-09 03:22:35
So you should reforge the tools that won't have a "red" version in the next TI update.
From what I can tell in other versions, we will be getting Red Mask & Red Sword.

I won't post the link but the next TI tools are up on wiki.
Me myself, i'll focus on leveling them and saving up the Red Gourds with the top attributes and using them to reforge when i'm L17-18 on my tools.

Just to throw it out there for the people who want to plan ahead, the mask and sword will have the following stats respectively.

+75 life +60 attack & +70 Life +55 Defense
additional stats should be similar to that of the red gourd

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Shryke

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On 2017-02-09 03:32:45 ｜ Show this Author Only

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s177 Kira On 2017-02-09 03:29:09
Just to throw it out there for the people who want to plan ahead, the mask and sword will have the following stats respectively.

+75 life +60 attack & +70 Life +55 Defense
additional stats should be similar to that of the red gourd

Are you sure about the sword stats? atm Shura Broad Sword offers the same stats. Shouldn't they be increased by 10 like the other?

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PraiseLuka

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On 2017-02-09 04:02:44 ｜ Show this Author Only

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S177Athrun On 2017-02-09 03:22:35
So you should reforge the tools that won't have a "red" version in the next TI update.
From what I can tell in other versions, we will be getting Red Mask & Red Sword.

I won't post the link but the next TI tools are up on wiki.
Me myself, i'll focus on leveling them and saving up the Red Gourds with the top attributes and using them to reforge when i'm L17-18 on my tools.

No, that wasn't my point, even for oranges it's better to wait, because elemental first then reforge will allow you to get a full connecting set (or optimal connecting set) for less amount of rolls, because you can keep duplicate of each gear with different elements. This is a math problem that I'm too lazy to explain.

Patching missing stat(on a 5 stat tool, for example) is about the only somewhat acceptable early use of reforge, and even that hurts you long term unless it can reward you by being sufficient to swing a battle.

On a side note, there are cases where it's better to reforge an existing stat away instead of filling up an empty slot, specifically the 3 stat that does nothing (atk/nin pen and injury) contributes to your power but doesn't help you any in battle. As soon as you can qualify for the 43200, they are actually BAD for you in that it makes your masuri matchmaking harder(i assume anyone there have no issue with survival, the only other place where power is used for match making) So it is better to replace those dead weights with actual useful stat.

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cretude

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On 2017-02-09 06:27:13 ｜ Show this Author Only

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ty for advices ... so it seems that we have just yellow additional attributes till an eventual upgrade.
And something else... You know what s max range for a red tool( talking about base stats like life, att, nin , def and ress).
This post was last edited by cretude at 2017-2-9 06:40

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s177 Kira

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On 2017-02-09 18:37:17 ｜ Show this Author Only

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Sure on the sword stats? Yes
Sure on if they'll be the same stats when we get them? No

Shura on the other ver. is +55 Life + 40 Attack and their L85 Cap best sword is Shichiseiken +60 Attack + 55 Defense.
Totsuka Blade is also at +40 Attack and + 35 Defense, and their best blade slot is the Sword of God w/ +50 Attack +45 Defense.

From what I can see, these are the only discrepancies among the tool stats. The other tools looks the same to me. From what I can predict, our version has and most likely will have different stats. Someone correct me on this but I think on CN, the orange tools with red background are actually the top tiered ones so they've def done some edits to the stats for us.

Apart from the gold w/ red background sword & mask, there should be the Gunbai (aka Madara's Fan) later on as well which would be in the Cudel slot. I can't seem to find any other newer ones apart from these so for myself, I will be reforging stats from the Red Gourd onto the Ring/Necklace/Kunai/Book/Scroll/Gourd tools.

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