LOGIN
Register
Reply
- Go To
- Page
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 27
- Posts: 46
1＃ Go ToOkay, as we all know the Matsuri Challenge was virtually impossible to complete if your server didn't have any active players and the cross server completely changed this, however, for some players it's gone from almost impossible to complete to complete impossible. I'm from S175 and our highest level is 81 (I'm second highest level) and I'm getting put against players who are level 85 with BP's of 40k+, these players clearly must have been playing the game for well over a month more th*. Also, it's even worst for our server's lowest leveled players who always find themselves up against level 80+ players, the challenge clearly states that the higher your streak the more difficult the opponent, yet some how we're getting level 85's right of the back then getting a level 75 when we get our streak to 2-4. Don't get me wrong, I like how they've made it cross server as I had to get 5 wins in the first 30 minutes otherwise I wouldn't get a fight but going up against level 85's with 40k+ BP causes me and others to lose our best teams before we even get out first win.
-
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 1
- Posts: 76
I get you. I'm the second strongest in my server level 77 with 30k and my first fight was right out the bat against a level 83 with 40k plus all special ninjas. And one of the lowest members of my group with 21k power got a level 81 with 34k. seems fair. Well played. and they are gonna say that it is balanced and that they hear the community and will give feedback and blablabla :@:@:@ -
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 1
- Posts: 41
-
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 7
- Posts: 71
-
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 77
- Posts: 385
-
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 1
- Posts: 76
they dont care at all about balancing, if they cared after the first week of complains they would have tried to do something. but has you say, this doesnt give them money so it doesnt matter at all. it will continue to be broken and we will continue to be matched with people in servers with 1month or more of gameplay th*, 5 levels higher and 10k+ power above. -
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 18
- Posts: 268
-
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 27
- Posts: 46
-
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 29
- Posts: 2271
Fact of the matter is that overall, the system is fairer. It was more unfair for some player of a server to get easy wins just because he is the top player of that server. Now, everyone in every server suffers equally with the chance of facing an opponent they can't beat. Sure, a 81 facing a 85 looks bad, but fact of the matter is that 85s can face others who have 10-20k power above them, that's just as bad.
What Xserver did is that instead of 1-3 top player of each server gets free, easy wins, now only top 1-10 player of each TIMEZONE get free easy wins, so the number of players with assured victory became significantly smaller. So now, the vast majority of players are in the realm of win some lose some, as they should be. Now your little 81 gets to feel what the 70s are feeling.
That said, if the "lowest leveled players" of your server, which I'd say probably in the mid 70s or high 60s if they are fairly active from the start of the server, are meeting only 80+, that is a problem. Granted, this might be due to the fact that below 80 pool is relatively small, since leveling in that range is fairly fast (only the 70s take any significant time), and with each new server garnering less and less player, to be honest the number of players below 80 is probably a far smaller % of the total player base than you might expect, as most active players have already passed the 80s mark. That said, they still shouldn't literally always get 80+, because however small the % population of sub-80 are, they exist. If what you say is true, I dare say there is an issue with match making, but I'd rather bet on you exaggerating.
On a side note, level isn't everything. We have a 64 in our server that can own most 70s, her power certainly matches some weaker low 80s. I, with my 40-41k pvp squads, have also lost to 82/83 whose team happen to counter mine (thou the fact that they are 32-35k power, way above what is expected of those level normally, and have ptw char probably plays a hand too. I suspect they are ptw player from newer servers). On the other hand, I have tore apart people with 5k power above me with no losses whatsoever as well as securing a difficult win against someone I think 8-9k power above me(I'm ftp, thou obviously have a number of rares being where I am). So really, level and power isn't everything. -
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 16
- Posts: 917
-
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 1
- Posts: 76
Im not saying i dont like to fight people that are stronger. The problem here is that is not balanced at all. Or are you gonna tell me that is okey to get matched with someone 15k+ power higher than you? My first fight was against someone 10k+ higher than me. And a member of my group was trying to finish now and after losing 2 times, he (21k) still got matched with a 82 37k power, 15k+ power higher than him. Is this fair? -
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 29
- Posts: 2271
- Reiko-Danna On 2017-01-28 04:59:26
- Im not saying i dont like to fight people that are stronger. The problem here is that is not balanced at all. Or are you gonna tell me that is okey to get matched with someone 15k+ power higher than you? My first fight was against someone 10k+ higher than me. And a member of my group was trying to finish now and after losing 2 times, he (21k) still got matched with a 82 37k power, 15k+ power higher than him. Is this fair?
Well, I would agree that a smaller range of matchable difference would be preferable, thou then the question would be whether that is feasible. If it ends up causing more max-time-random-match where even bigger difference might happen, it might do more harm than good. Without knowing the code and the logs, I can't really say whether a change would be for better or worse.
But in concept, of course, ideally the range would be made smaller. -
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 2
- Posts: 98
easy to say that matsuri is not that bad when you're lvl 80-85.
But for people like me on pretty recent server it's just hell. yeah maybe the top players of my server don't get as much wins as before but it is even worse for us.
Before 2.0 once the couples of top players of the server had done their matsuri you could still get your 4 or 5 wins by fighting with the other average players. Now i just keep getting match with people way stronger than me even after loosing. -
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 11
- Posts: 967
Today i had 2 losses as 85, with 38k BP, i got matched with 1 85 with 45k BP, and 79 with 40k those were my losses, im proud to say that 1 of my victories was vs a 43k BP guy, so yeah like someone said, power isnt everything as long as you know who to go for, and how his refines and gear is. -
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 11
- Posts: 967
-
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 16
- Posts: 917
- UchihaShay On 2017-01-28 06:12:47
- Thou i was thinking making matsuri into power brackets to make it more reliable and fair for everyone.
no, then the people who r too strong cant find people and those who r too weak cant find people. right now its no different than it was pre 2.0 except the amount of people both strong and weak is higher -
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 11
- Posts: 967
- Shadoblaze On 2017-01-28 06:49:38
- no, then the people who r too strong cant find people and those who r too weak cant find people. right now its no different than it was pre 2.0 except the amount of people both strong and weak is higher
it's about testing, and tweaking, u cant theorize now, if OASIS hadnt even test it... -
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 29
- Posts: 2271
- UchihaShay On 2017-01-28 06:53:48
- it's about testing, and tweaking, u cant theorize now, if OASIS hadnt even test it...
Hard brackets are never the solution, because it would just end up with people who are at the top/bottom of the brackets.
Batchwise dynamic range matching would be a better solution, but that's both difficult to explain and properly implement.
That said, I'm not entirely sure if Oasgames even have the ability to change the matchmaking mechanic... And if matchmaking really is bad, then CN players would have complained just as much, either affecting a change that we will see or... well... we aren't going to have anymore influence than them on a Chinese company. -
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 42
- Posts: 692
-
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 5
- Posts: 27
theres one way to guarantee you get match with someone of similar power to yours simply que for a match for 1 min and restart the que before it pass the 1 min mark. 1 min Is simply not enough to match you with similar power since you dont reallg know when everyone else will que on matsuri. the devs could also increase the time for matching you with similar power -
Reply
- Go To
- Page
Quicky Post
Reply
Log in in order to Post. LOGIN | Register
You have selected 1 Topic.
Reason:
Confirm
You did not select a Topic.!
You have selected 1 Topic.
Confirm
You did not select a Topic.!
Report
Confirm
You did not select a Topic.!
You have selected 1 Topic.
Confirm
You did not select a Topic.!
You have selected 1 Topic.
Confirm
You did not select a Topic.!
You have selected 1 Topic.
Confirm Delete Selected Topics？
Reason:
Confirm
You did not select a Topic.!
You have selected 1 Topic.
Confirm Delete The post you selected？
Reason:
Confirm
You did not select a Topic.!
Ban (for this Section)
Confirm
You did not select a Topic.!
