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What do you think of the new plunder mechanics? Do you think the ricks/penalties for poting for plunders make it worth it?

Is the red name and potentially loosing coins balanced against potentially gaining coupons by pillaging an SS ranked mission?
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On 2017-01-07 18:51:51Show this Author Only
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Okay i ask you if its worth would you buy 150 coupons for 150k coins if you could?
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On 2017-01-07 18:58:03Show this Author Only
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150 Coupons and all you have to do is hide for the rest of the day.... Kind of a no brainer to me. They don't even stop you from being able to hide. Just spend all your time in your group base, and you don't even have the risk of losing anything. I'm not even sure you would run into people that try and attack you out side of Konoha, cause they are most likely don't something else.

Only warning I'll give... Don't do Anko's Quiz while red. They can start a fight with you mid question, and you lose all credit for said question. Other then that, no way to lose more then your coins... and that is only if you temp fate by standing in the middle of town.
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On 2017-01-07 19:06:50Show this Author Only
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Which seems to be entirely my problem. There seems to be little to no downside to choosing to plunder and the little downside there is, is easily mitigated. Without any consequence why would anyone of moderate power choose anything but plunder with Coupons as a potential prize? Especially with Ingots (not coupons) needing to be spent to accept additional SS rank missions.

Likewise I don't think the "assistance" mechanic was well thought out, unless the person assisting you is straight up more powerful than the plunderer they will win, with the attacker getting a full heal between each round, and your most powerful group members being limited on the number of assists they could give. Make the damage * or a 2v1 if you want assistance to be meaningful.

In the old system at least higher level group members could provide unlimited *s and my group's lower leveled players weren't just fodder after I assisted a handful of people. I am really not liking the new convoy/plunder system at all. I felt the old one promoted more teamwork, group play, and actually let me provide token defense for my lower level members. .
I think either more risk needs to be added to plunder (loose coupons not coins, if you are going to let them loot coupons as well as coins) or more ways need to be added to allow for defence of lower level group members to promote group play be it allow for unlimited assistances (with only the first X getting coin rewards) or allow 2v1 or 3v1 battles or at least don't give plunderers full heals between each member.


This post was last edited by MarioMD at 2017-1-7 19:11
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On 2017-01-07 19:53:00Show this Author Only
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  • MarioMD On 2017-01-07 19:06:50
  • Which seems to be entirely my problem. There seems to be little to no downside to choosing to plunder and the little downside there is, is easily mitigated. Without any consequence why would anyone of moderate power choose anything but plunder with Coupons as a potential prize? Especially with Ingots (not coupons) needing to be spent to accept additional SS rank missions.

    Likewise I don't think the "assistance" mechanic was well thought out, unless the person assisting you is straight up more powerful than the plunderer they will win, with the attacker getting a full heal between each round, and your most powerful group members being limited on the number of assists they could give. Make the damage * or a 2v1 if you want assistance to be meaningful.

    In the old system at least higher level group members could provide unlimited *s and my group's lower leveled players weren't just fodder after I assisted a handful of people. I am really not liking the new convoy/plunder system at all. I felt the old one promoted more teamwork, group play, and actually let me provide token defense for my lower level members. .
    I think either more risk needs to be added to plunder (loose coupons not coins, if you are going to let them loot coupons as well as coins) or more ways need to be added to allow for defence of lower level group members to promote group play be it allow for unlimited assistances (with only the first X getting coin rewards) or allow 2v1 or 3v1 battles or at least don't give plunderers full heals between each member.


    This post was last edited by MarioMD at 2017-1-7 19:11
sorry bro but that really makes no sense, it would just force players into insta spending their cupons....
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On 2017-01-08 15:48:53Show this Author Only
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  • DrDoo On 2017-01-07 19:53:00
  • sorry bro but that really makes no sense, it would just force players into insta spending their cupons....
have them go into negative coupon debt?
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On 2017-01-08 15:52:07Show this Author Only
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Do you lose something if they attack u because on my server everyone is around 50-55 u cant atack someone til 60 ?
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On 2017-01-08 16:07:43Show this Author Only
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I challenged someone with a red name, but they just declined my challenge. lol
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On 2017-01-08 18:07:44Show this Author Only
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  • Rekkles On 2017-01-08 15:52:07
  • Do you lose something if they attack u because on my server everyone is around 50-55 u cant atack someone til 60 ?
if you beat a red name you take 150k coins from them and to my knowledge you only need to be in the top 50 for ranked to plunder people even though it says top 20.
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On 2017-01-08 18:39:50Show this Author Only
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  • dart feld On 2017-01-08 18:07:44
  • if you beat a red name you take 150k coins from them and to my knowledge you only need to be in the top 50 for ranked to plunder people even though it says top 20.
Yea, but they really should change it to 20 tho.
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On 2017-01-08 19:26:05Show this Author Only
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  • Niji On 2017-01-08 16:07:43
  • I challenged someone with a red name, but they just declined my challenge. lol
You only have to click on the person to fight them and you get a popup, It's not the actual challenge *on.... I fought like 5 people and they weren't able to decline it.
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On 2017-01-08 20:15:13Show this Author Only
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They should nerf plunder, it's way better then convoys, if you can do it convoys might as well not exist. Remove level limit and put a limit of only one SS plunder a day. As plunder is now it just making the gap between those at top and those who aren't bigger.
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On 2017-01-08 22:14:49Show this Author Only
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It should be 20, I think it is a bug. But that is not that much of a problem anyway since if ur like 50th you prob gonna get rekted when plundering
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On 2017-01-08 22:16:19Show this Author Only
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  • Dym On 2017-01-08 20:15:13
  • They should nerf plunder, it's way better then convoys, if you can do it convoys might as well not exist. Remove level limit and put a limit of only one SS plunder a day. As plunder is now it just making the gap between those at top and those who aren't bigger.
you can get 4 SS mission a day make it 120 coupon so that isn't a problem
also the higher power you get the harder it is to be raised so something like a bonus 3k cp/month for the top players wouldn't widen the gap that much
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On 2017-01-08 22:36:53Show this Author Only
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  • RyoheiYagyuu On 2017-01-08 22:16:19
  • you can get 4 SS mission a day make it 120 coupon so that isn't a problem
    also the higher power you get the harder it is to be raised so something like a bonus 3k cp/month for the top players wouldn't widen the gap that much
That would cost 30 ingots, does plunder 3 SS cost ingots?
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On 2017-01-09 00:00:59Show this Author Only
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  • RyoheiYagyuu On 2017-01-08 22:16:19
  • you can get 4 SS mission a day make it 120 coupon so that isn't a problem
    also the higher power you get the harder it is to be raised so something like a bonus 3k cp/month for the top players wouldn't widen the gap that much
No you can't they only get one SS for free, you need 30 ingots to do 3 more. And yeh it's 4.5k coupons a month for plunders, only 900 for convoys if you are f2p which is a massive difference.
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On 2017-01-09 00:01:57Show this Author Only
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  • PraiseLuka On 2017-01-08 22:36:53
  • That would cost 30 ingots, does plunder 3 SS cost ingots?
it cost a chance of getting rekt and got nothing
Meanwhile for convoy u c*ways wait for the potential danger to go away before convoying
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On 2017-01-09 00:04:50Show this Author Only
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If any you should ask for more free stuff, ex more reward for convoying
Asking them to give less free stuff is just dumb
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On 2017-01-09 00:12:51Show this Author Only
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  • RyoheiYagyuu On 2017-01-09 00:04:50
  • If any you should ask for more free stuff, ex more reward for convoying
    Asking them to give less free stuff is just dumb
Asking for free stuff is even more dumb, i am asking for them to balance them. As it is now plunder is way better then convoy if you can do plunder you never need to look at convoy again and because only top 50 can do it top players get ahead even more.
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On 2017-01-09 00:31:39Show this Author Only
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  • Dym On 2017-01-09 00:12:51
  • Asking for free stuff is even more dumb, i am asking for them to balance them. As it is now plunder is way better then convoy if you can do plunder you never need to look at convoy again and because only top 50 can do it top players get ahead even more.
Like I said it should be 20 and they will probably fix it in the upcoming update, but it wouldn't change much since the number is always auto balanced, if everyone go plunder then noone will get anything. It's like economic stuff
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