can we see its stats???

Mind showing it's stats? are they all red stats as well?

Stats are basicly the same except it seems they are capable of going above 100 and possibly higher.

thats still a gold tool not a red one, you can tell by the color of the name and the border of the image.

That would mean there is 3 different types of Gold tools. I choose that name because of the Nature stone required for it and the fact that its obviously one step above the previous Gold with red background tools.

It have a different level cap thou, it's certainly not in the same category as the other golds.
Also, it require a different nature stone than golds (which means I c*e them on the 37k TI ones and not save for 43k)

tbh, this is more like an actual red than anything we've ever seen. Until something with say lv 24 cap and is colored red comes out, I'm calling this red (or do you have a better way to distinguish this from the 18 cappers?)

Exactly my point :D

i have a gold tool with gold background "Shura Broad Sword" max lvl 20 uses gold stone. So thats a red tool as well according to ur statements even tho there is 0 red in the icon or description. more accurate description would be tier 4 gold tool

Not at all, Because this dosnt use a Gold stone it uses a RED stone which makes it different. Aswell as the fact that the possible additional stats on it is MUCH higher.

I'm doing the Uchiha Brothers TI at normal difficulty with a power req. of 37,600 .. .
Is there a hard version of it for people with higher power?
Because I've never seen a red chakra stone in my rewards list at all . .whew. . . .
Good job, dude! ^^

Yes as stated its from the 43k TI which is the Hard version, your capable of doing it at 43200 power!

I can confirm this is the red tool.
only seen that red gourd so far.

Maybe the other red tools are hiding, in the 2nd wave fight, which got a low chance to spawn,
if u look at "2:" in the details, its a 2nd wave, with better rewards. :P

Possibly! im curious which is why i was hoping someone would link some nice ones in here ;P

Well no luck with the 2nd fight spawn yet, maybe its 5% ;P

Yeah, done it 15 times and still nothing, just gotta keep trying and hope if someone gets more posts them here ;P

I've done the TI many times between doing my 15 over the past two days, and also helping a lot of my friends do it. I've probably done over 100 by now. Still haven't seen that second round. But that tool is interesting, it certainly has higher base stats than what I have.

That being said, its name and border are gold/yellow. I'll tell you something even more interesting, I have a gold/yellow blade that is better than the Shichiseiken. The Shichiseiken has the red "aura" coming off of it, while this superior one has the average yellow.

I think perhaps how we have been judging these items might change because what we know and what we are seeing isn't matching. While that is a superior gourd, I don't think it's red. But this is just speculation.

is it the shura broad sword?
does it require gold or red elemental stone?
what is its level cap?

If it's lv 20 with gold stone, then lv 20 is truly the "in-between", as some uses red and some uses gold stones, whereas I believe all lv 18s are gold stone. Perhaps all lv 24 will be red stone and are the true red. In any case, picture speaks a thousand words, screeny like the OP's would be nice (with the cap and stone required shown)

Edit: that means one shot like the one in post 1, another like the one in post 4
This post was last edited by 117***@google at 2017-1-7 12:54

Shura Broad Sword is a. . .. sword. . if I remember correctly.
Shichiseiken is a blade.
Sword of Totsuka is better than Shichiseiken in terms of base stats, but is a gold-looking sword. . . .I think . . This post was last edited by JustAClone at 2017-1-7 13:52

I apologize about my lack of ptw knowledge....

I just want to see all the lv20-ish stuff, see if they use red or gold stones.