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Because of the change (mostly nerf for the purpose it is used) to wind dance, dude squad is no longer optimal, so I'm wondering if there is a better 9 tail team for me, potentially using one of the new talents.
Currently, my team consist of yamato(5*), 8 gate lee (2*) and GNW kiba (3*)

The other non-elite instance/exchange shop ninja I have are:
2*: GNW tenten, obito boy, konohamaru corp
3*: orochi traitor, ao, sage naruto, jigokudo, all the sign in GNW, mei, kurotsuchi, enma, akatsuchi, shizune, demon zabuza, windblade asuma, garra, torune abrume, fukurukumaru

Given that most of them are irrelevant to 9 tail, I think the list can be probably simplified to:
2*: 8 gate lee, GNW tenten
3*: sage naruto, mei, GNWs, windblade asuma, garra and maybe kurotsuchi (for earth synergy that I currently have, it feels weak but putting it out there)

I have every exchange shop and elite instance ninja, most of which can be made into 5* fairly easily or already are, so just assume them to be 5*. (yes, I'm aware that itachi, deidera, sannins etc will be difficult to get to 5, but for one they are not very good for nine tail and for another, those are the minority and it's far too bothersome to list everything)

so, any ideas?
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On 2017-01-06 08:17:46Show this Author Only
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I use the following set up, and routinely land anywhere between 1-3 in the Nine Tails Rankings.
NINE TAILS WIND MAIN SET UP
Ninjas: Wind Main 5*, Gaara 4*, Wind Blade Asuma 3*, Baki 4*
Talents: 11332
Summon: Tonton (NOT Chameleon, even though it can work too - Tonton does more single target damage than Chameleon)
Tactic: Ghost Kill
Lineup:
MAIN x x
WB Asuma Gaara x
Baki x x

GENERAL TACTICS:
Round 1: Skill Gaara for the Wind ninja buff. Once the barrier is raised, use Wind Main's skill.
Round 2: Use WB Asuma's skill
Round 3: Use Main's skill and Baki's skill.
Round 4: Skill Gaara as soon as the round starts, for the barrier buff. Nine Tails will use his Tailed Beast Bomb - if more than one ninja dies, retreat.
Round 5: Skill Main, Baki, and WB Asuma. Nine Tails will use Exploding Hell - if you are down to 3-2 ninja after this attack, retreat.
Round 6: Nobody skills this round. Let standard attacks do damage.

Round 7: Skill Gaara as soon as the round starts. After the barrier is up, use Wind Main and Baki's skills. After Baki's standard attack, hit retreat.
This post was last edited by Sabaku no Temari at 2017-1-7 17:10
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On 2017-01-06 09:41:59Show this Author Only
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  • On 2017-01-06 08:17:46
  • I use the following set up, and routinely land anywhere between 1-3 in the Nine Tails Rankings.
    NINE TAILS WIND MAIN SET UP
    Ninjas: Wind Main 5*, Gaara 4*, Wind Blade Asuma 3*, Baki 4*
    Talents: 11332
    Summon: Tonton (NOT Chameleon, even though it can work too - Tonton does more single target damage than Chameleon)
    Tactic: Ghost Kill
    Lineup:
    MAIN x x
    WB Asuma Gaara x
    Baki x x

    GENERAL TACTICS:
    Round 1: Skill Gaara for the Wind ninja buff. Once the barrier is raised, use Wind Main's skill.
    Round 2: Use WB Asuma's skill
    Round 3: Use Main's skill and Baki's skill.
    Round 4: Skill Gaara as soon as the round starts, for the barrier buff. Nine Tails will use his Tailed Beast Bomb - if more than one ninja dies, retreat.
    Round 5: Skill Main, Baki, and WB Asuma. Nine Tails will use Exploding Hell - if you are down to 3-2 ninja after this attack, retreat.
    Round 6: Nobody skills this round. Let standard attacks do damage.

    Round 7: Skill Gaara as soon as the round starts. After the barrier is up, use Wind Main and Baki's skills. After Baki's standard attack, hit retreat.
    This post was last edited by Sabaku no Temari at 2017-1-7 17:10
Just wondering with 2.0 release and the new skill changes is this your skill layout with the 4th skills added?
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On 2017-01-07 11:14:31Show this Author Only
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  • Ryukashin On 2017-01-06 09:41:59
  • Just wondering with 2.0 release and the new skill changes is this your skill layout with the 4th skills added?
Nope! The skills are still the same for me, and I still rank in the top 3 even with the new Nine Tails where he dies super fast.
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On 2017-01-07 13:58:43Show this Author Only
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  • On 2017-01-07 11:14:31
  • Nope! The skills are still the same for me, and I still rank in the top 3 even with the new Nine Tails where he dies super fast.
ranking don't me*l that much w/o knowledge on your competition.
What is your power on that team and how much damage per minute do you do?

I have around 38-39.5k power depending the team I use (max power a bit over 40k, but that's not tail related)

I'm looking at 230k on my earth team (above described), this is 25% mooded and fully awakened.

250k on my water team trial #1 (kisame, main, GNW tenten, mei w/ chakra talent for boosting kisame and using tenten myst on turn 1)
still have to do water team trial #2, where I use queen talent, in which case it will be turn 2 tenten, turn 3 kisame+mei and so on.
This team is missing 2 awaken on mei, like 9 on GNW tenten and not mooded, so I dare say this will be superior if maxed, should do around 15-20% extra damage I'd say.

I have the ninja for the wind team as you listed, but I have issue awakening them, and they are certainly not mooded. Will try out once I can get more mats....

Note this is per minute, one round, including rez timer, is about 2 min, so roughly 2x the amount per round.
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On 2017-01-07 14:53:39Show this Author Only
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I use a gaara, 5 kage temari, baki team. 1,1,3,3,2 for skills. Can go into more detail how the team works if interested
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On 2017-01-07 16:52:20Show this Author Only
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  • PraiseLuka On 2017-01-07 13:58:43
  • ranking don't me*l that much w/o knowledge on your competition.
    What is your power on that team and how much damage per minute do you do?

    I have around 38-39.5k power depending the team I use (max power a bit over 40k, but that's not tail related)

    I'm looking at 230k on my earth team (above described), this is 25% mooded and fully awakened.

    250k on my water team trial #1 (kisame, main, GNW tenten, mei w/ chakra talent for boosting kisame and using tenten myst on turn 1)
    still have to do water team trial #2, where I use queen talent, in which case it will be turn 2 tenten, turn 3 kisame+mei and so on.
    This team is missing 2 awaken on mei, like 9 on GNW tenten and not mooded, so I dare say this will be superior if maxed, should do around 15-20% extra damage I'd say.

    I have the ninja for the wind team as you listed, but I have issue awakening them, and they are certainly not mooded. Will try out once I can get more mats....

    Note this is per minute, one round, including rez timer, is about 2 min, so roughly 2x the amount per round.
Well, to put it in perspective, aside from a Lightning Main with 45k BP, Wind Main players normally make up the next top three or four spots - usually with this team, or variations using Asuma, Iruka, or Sage Naruto instead. I'll add a screenshot to this reply for reference - today's participation was lackluster in comparison to normal (only 21 people to kill the Nine Tails in 8 minutes... go figure), but prior to 2.0 there were a good number of people participating in each event.

For Friday's Nine Tails, I went into it with a BP of 40.5k, and a damage total of 3372632 after ~4 runs, without using coupons for reviving. I say *around* four runs, because the Nine Tails died just around the tail end of my fourth run. So if you're asking for the amount of damage I do per life, I'd say I do anywhere between 820k-860k of damage.

Stats on my team are as follows:
Awakening: all characters fully awakened (+1 Red Awakening)
Cultivation: all characters are fully cultivated (342)
Refines: all characters have Level 6 refines per attribute
Magatama: all characters have 5 Level 5 magatamas per attribute
Mood: Baki @ +25% Ninjutsu, WB Asuma @ +25% Attack, Gaara @ +25% Ninjutsu, Wind Main @ +29% Life
Equipment Strengthening: all characters' equipment is fully strengthened (Level 85)
Equipment Upgrading: Wind Main, Baki, WB Asuma have Super Kage gear for the Life attribute; every other characters' attribute is Kage gear level
Other Boosts: I pay the 30k coins and 30 coupons for the 30%/30% boosts. I don't use coupons for reviving unless the Nine Tails is on it's last bar of life and I won't respawn in time to have a chance at the kill shot reward.

Once Nine Tails comes back around on Sunday, I can get you a closer estimate of damage per life, if I'm understanding you correctly.

This post was last edited by Sabaku no Temari at 2017-1-7 17:24
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On 2017-01-07 23:03:53Show this Author Only
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  • Well, to put it in perspective, aside from a Lightning Main with 45k BP, Wind Main players normally make up the next top three or four spots - usually with this team, or variations using Asuma, Iruka, or Sage Naruto instead. I'll add a screenshot to this reply for reference - today's participation was lackluster in comparison to normal (only 21 people to kill the Nine Tails in 8 minutes... go figure), but prior to 2.0 there were a good number of people participating in each event.

    For Friday's Nine Tails, I went into it with a BP of 40.5k, and a damage total of 3372632 after ~4 runs, without using coupons for reviving. I say *around* four runs, because the Nine Tails died just around the tail end of my fourth run. So if you're asking for the amount of damage I do per life, I'd say I do anywhere between 820k-860k of damage.

    Stats on my team are as follows:
    Awakening: all characters fully awakened (+1 Red Awakening)
    Cultivation: all characters are fully cultivated (342)
    Refines: all characters have Level 6 refines per attribute
    Magatama: all characters have 5 Level 5 magatamas per attribute
    Mood: Baki @ +25% Ninjutsu, WB Asuma @ +25% Attack, Gaara @ +25% Ninjutsu, Wind Main @ +29% Life
    Equipment Strengthening: all characters' equipment is fully strengthened (Level 85)
    Equipment Upgrading: Wind Main, Baki, WB Asuma have Super Kage gear for the Life attribute; every other characters' attribute is Kage gear level
    Other Boosts: I pay the 30k coins and 30 coupons for the 30%/30% boosts. I don't use coupons for reviving unless the Nine Tails is on it's last bar of life and I won't respawn in time to have a chance at the kill shot reward.

    Once Nine Tails comes back around on Sunday, I can get you a closer estimate of damage per life, if I'm understanding you correctly.

    This post was last edited by Sabaku no Temari at 2017-1-7 17:24
    This post was last edited by Sabaku no Temari at 2017-1-7 17:24
I don't think you should be going that many rounds. At least shouldn't you be retreating after Garaa's field expires because the first bomb will drop WB passive because your no longer at full health, and after 4 rounds your wind buff wears off.
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On 2017-01-08 00:17:42Show this Author Only
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  • On 2017-01-06 08:17:46
  • I use the following set up, and routinely land anywhere between 1-3 in the Nine Tails Rankings.
    NINE TAILS WIND MAIN SET UP
    Ninjas: Wind Main 5*, Gaara 4*, Wind Blade Asuma 3*, Baki 4*
    Talents: 11332
    Summon: Tonton (NOT Chameleon, even though it can work too - Tonton does more single target damage than Chameleon)
    Tactic: Ghost Kill
    Lineup:
    MAIN x x
    WB Asuma Gaara x
    Baki x x

    GENERAL TACTICS:
    Round 1: Skill Gaara for the Wind ninja buff. Once the barrier is raised, use Wind Main's skill.
    Round 2: Use WB Asuma's skill
    Round 3: Use Main's skill and Baki's skill.
    Round 4: Skill Gaara as soon as the round starts, for the barrier buff. Nine Tails will use his Tailed Beast Bomb - if more than one ninja dies, retreat.
    Round 5: Skill Main, Baki, and WB Asuma. Nine Tails will use Exploding Hell - if you are down to 3-2 ninja after this attack, retreat.
    Round 6: Nobody skills this round. Let standard attacks do damage.

    Round 7: Skill Gaara as soon as the round starts. After the barrier is up, use Wind Main and Baki's skills. After Baki's standard attack, hit retreat.
    This post was last edited by Sabaku no Temari at 2017-1-7 17:10
If four round is goal, I'd say the skill usage should be instead:
1 garra, main
2 baki
3 main, (wait a bit for some normal hits) garra drop barrier (hopefully as the last action of turn but that's hard to tell)
4 garra, asuma, baki

this will get 2 baki in the first 4 rounds instead of 1, all else being effectively the same.
Granted, if somehow you have so much shield that turn 5 is viable, the original proposed skill order would be better, since it would have 2 baki + 2 asuma, as oppsed to 2 baki 1 asuma. So knowing ahead the probability of whether your team will last extra turns would be quite useful.
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On 2017-01-08 03:36:44Show this Author Only
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  • PraiseLuka On 2017-01-08 00:17:42
  • If four round is goal, I'd say the skill usage should be instead:
    1 garra, main
    2 baki
    3 main, (wait a bit for some normal hits) garra drop barrier (hopefully as the last action of turn but that's hard to tell)
    4 garra, asuma, baki

    this will get 2 baki in the first 4 rounds instead of 1, all else being effectively the same.
    Granted, if somehow you have so much shield that turn 5 is viable, the original proposed skill order would be better, since it would have 2 baki + 2 asuma, as oppsed to 2 baki 1 asuma. So knowing ahead the probability of whether your team will last extra turns would be quite useful.
This is probably true if you're not strong enough to survive the Tailed Beast Bomb. About 75% of the time I can last up until the second Tailed Beast Bomb in round 7, and so I wanted to write out those options for people strong enough to survive up until that point as well.

@Yksirf, not necessarily. I tested this out, and while the amount of damage done might be slightly lower, you can still milk a lot of damage as long as you have all four ninja on the team - Wind Main's +40% passive lasts 5 rounds, WB Asuma's buff will last until the end of round 4, but you'll still have the +40% from Gaara and the +12% from Baki.
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On 2017-01-08 03:53:06Show this Author Only
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  • On 2017-01-08 03:36:44
  • This is probably true if you're not strong enough to survive the Tailed Beast Bomb. About 75% of the time I can last up until the second Tailed Beast Bomb in round 7, and so I wanted to write out those options for people strong enough to survive up until that point as well.

    @Yksirf, not necessarily. I tested this out, and while the amount of damage done might be slightly lower, you can still milk a lot of damage as long as you have all four ninja on the team - Wind Main's +40% passive lasts 5 rounds, WB Asuma's buff will last until the end of round 4, but you'll still have the +40% from Gaara and the +12% from Baki.
The Gaara buff (and all field jutsu) only work the first time it's put up. Going to round 7 makes you lose a massive amount of DPS, and erecting a second Gaara barrier is just a waste of time
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On 2017-01-10 08:40:48Show this Author Only
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  • On 2017-01-08 03:53:06
  • The Gaara buff (and all field jutsu) only work the first time it's put up. Going to round 7 makes you lose a massive amount of DPS, and erecting a second Gaara barrier is just a waste of time
Erm.... don't know why, but it works for me :/
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On 2017-01-10 08:42:20Show this Author Only
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  • PraiseLuka On 2017-01-08 00:17:42
  • If four round is goal, I'd say the skill usage should be instead:
    1 garra, main
    2 baki
    3 main, (wait a bit for some normal hits) garra drop barrier (hopefully as the last action of turn but that's hard to tell)
    4 garra, asuma, baki

    this will get 2 baki in the first 4 rounds instead of 1, all else being effectively the same.
    Granted, if somehow you have so much shield that turn 5 is viable, the original proposed skill order would be better, since it would have 2 baki + 2 asuma, as oppsed to 2 baki 1 asuma. So knowing ahead the probability of whether your team will last extra turns would be quite useful.
So this is the damage after one life, using 5 turns against Nine Tails (from 01/08/17).
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On 2017-01-10 09:34:44Show this Author Only
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Quick Q, isn't WB Asuma a Nin growth so surely +NIN better than +ATK for mood?
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On 2017-01-10 16:46:50Show this Author Only
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  • Tzatziki On 2017-01-10 09:34:44
  • Quick Q, isn't WB Asuma a Nin growth so surely +NIN better than +ATK for mood?
Probably, I just keep forgetting to go in and change it :P
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On 2017-02-21 03:59:58Show this Author Only
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  • On 2017-01-10 08:40:48
  • Erm.... don't know why, but it works for me :/
No, it doesnt. The second time you use the barrier, it gives a buff of +0 attack +0 ninjutsu to wind, then stays up until you use Gaara mystery again. but the actual damage buff itself does not apply a second time
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On 2017-03-02 18:17:02Show this Author Only
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is there any substitute for baki ?
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On 2017-04-23 01:13:13Show this Author Only
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file:///C:/Users/User/Desktop/Wind%20Team.JPG

Try this one:

Gaara X X
Iruka X X
X S.Naruto WindMain
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On 2017-04-23 01:14:50Show this Author Only
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Try This Team
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On 2017-04-23 06:00:29Show this Author Only
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  • On 2017-01-08 03:36:44
  • This is probably true if you're not strong enough to survive the Tailed Beast Bomb. About 75% of the time I can last up until the second Tailed Beast Bomb in round 7, and so I wanted to write out those options for people strong enough to survive up until that point as well.

    @Yksirf, not necessarily. I tested this out, and while the amount of damage done might be slightly lower, you can still milk a lot of damage as long as you have all four ninja on the team - Wind Main's +40% passive lasts 5 rounds, WB Asuma's buff will last until the end of round 4, but you'll still have the +40% from Gaara and the +12% from Baki.
Baki doesnt buff other ninjas, he gets a buff for every wind ninja in your team. That is a translation mistake.
You can easily try this out yourself. http://imgur.com/a/q1g4B

This post was last edited by sui***@gmail.com at 2017-4-23 19:48
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