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- JustAClone On 2017-01-04 06:35:33
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On my server, he seems to be really rare. . .
Kazekage Gaara got pulled a lot recently. . lol so he's more common now
yeah... Darui seems to have the most functions of any of the kage ninjas, what with his 10 combo chase and all. He's easy to use and fits right into the whole Root of Warrior meta.
Kazekage Gaara's kinda awkward because of his 80 cost mystery, even tho his shields are massive. Luckily, 2.0 is coming soon, and the Wind Main gets passive that allows her to generate 80 chakra easily by turn 2. It's fantastic :D -
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- DraconusNex On 2017-01-04 07:44:10
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yeah... Darui seems to have the most functions of any of the kage ninjas, what with his 10 combo chase and all. He's easy to use and fits right into the whole Root of Warrior me
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Kazekage Gaara's kinda awkward because of his 80 cost mystery, even tho his shields are massive. Luckily, 2.0 is coming soon, and the Wind Main gets passive that allows her to generate 80 chakra easily by turn 2. It's fantastic :D
Darui is worse th*l of the kages (obviously he would be worse, he's not a kage lol) He has lots of chases sure but the damage isn't insane on them or anything and his 10 hit chase does basically no damage and it causes paralyze(who cares they will already be paralyzed by mb or his own mystery..) plus he's exactly the same amount of squishy as 3 star sasuke. Having any of the kage means you have immobile on a chase, pretty much the best debuff in the game. And for a pure nin mystery it doesn't really do a whole lot as Mei's does more damage AND ignites which is better than paralyze which you will already have on them from your 10hit lol. As far as 80 chakra gaara mystery, use killer bee on mabui and you can gaara going into turn 2, even more ways to get that chakra round 1 going into round 2 in 2.0 as well. -
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- DraconusNex On 2017-01-04 07:44:10
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yeah... Darui seems to have the most functions of any of the kage ninjas, what with his 10 combo chase and all. He's easy to use and fits right into the whole Root of Warrior me
ta.
Kazekage Gaara's kinda awkward because of his 80 cost mystery, even tho his shields are massive. Luckily, 2.0 is coming soon, and the Wind Main gets passive that allows her to generate 80 chakra easily by turn 2. It's fantastic :D
"and the Wind Main gets passive that allows her to generate 80 chakra easily by turn 2. It's fantastic "
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- JustAClone On 2017-01-04 12:57:30
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"and the Wind Main gets passive that allows her to generate 80 chakra easily by turn 2. It's fantastic "
Do you mean Sage Mode or that you must have Orochimaru on your team?
Sorry, my statement is pretty vague. Let me clarify
In 2.0, the Wind Main gains a passive that gives her Sage Mode status. It increases her ninjutsu by some amount and gives 15 chakra every time she chases. With a gold summon and her regular chase, she can get 45 extra chakra on turn 1.
If you have a character that can give just 20 extra chakra on turn 1, Sage characters, Orochimaru, etc, it's easy to use Gaara's mystery on turn 2.
And if things don't work out, just use another mystery on turn 2, have Wind Main do some more chases, and you should have plenty.
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- DraconusNex On 2017-01-04 13:05:21
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Sorry, my statement is pretty vague. Let me clarify
In 2.0, the Wind Main gains a passive that gives her Sage Mode status. It increases her ninjutsu by some amount and gives 15 chakra every time she chases. With a gold summon and her regular chase, she can get 45 extra chakra on turn 1.
If you have a character that can give just 20 extra chakra on turn 1, Sage characters, Orochimaru, etc, it's easy to use Gaara's mystery on turn 2.
And if things don't work out, just use another mystery on turn 2, have Wind Main do some more chases, and you should have plenty.
Dance of Impetus, rinse and repeat lol
It *s how Chakra can't roll over, though . .
On Turn 1, you get 45 Chakra, but it doesn't matter, right?
Turn 2, you'll still have 40. . . .
And if you manage to muster up 40 more chakra. . well uh. . .your Gaara Mystery isn't prompt at all, then, no?
Enemy will have a prompt mystery and go ham . . .
But I didn't know that summons count toward her chase. . . woooo . .
That's REALLY interesting. . .thanks for that! ^^ -
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- まだまだ On 2017-01-04 12:50:52
- Darui is worse th*l of the kages (obviously he would be worse, he's not a kage lol) He has lots of chases sure but the damage isn't insane on them or anything and his 10 hit chase does basically no damage and it causes paralyze(who cares they will already be paralyzed by mb or his own mystery..) plus he's exactly the same amount of squishy as 3 star sasuke. Having any of the kage means you have immobile on a chase, pretty much the best debuff in the game. And for a pure nin mystery it doesn't really do a whole lot as Mei's does more damage AND ignites which is better than paralyze which you will already have on them from your 10hit lol. As far as 80 chakra gaara mystery, use killer bee on mabui and you can gaara going into turn 2, even more ways to get that chakra round 1 going into round 2 in 2.0 as well.
Hmm. Where to start.
The immobile chases are probably what makes the Kages so good, but that doesn't mean Darui isn't one of the best.
1. His paralyze chase basically allows you to stop all combos every round, which means that immobile chase isn't happening anyway.
2. If you're still using Midnight Blade's Chidori Blade mystery, you're horribly outdated.
3. His mystery still hits hard and is 40 chakra cost, meaning it's more easily used by players that were able to get him and don't have somebody like Sage Naruto or Mabui to generate chakra for a 60 or 80 cost mystery by turn 2.
4. Mei's mystery is better, but it really doesn't matter when you can stop it with round 1 cc. With root of Warrior, you can't stop Darui.
5. You say that Darui is the worst, but you're only comparing him to Mei, who is hands-down the best kage. Tell me what advantage that Onoki or Gaara has over Darui that make them better overall....
P.S. Mabui and Kazekage Gaara is quite possibly the most disjointed team out there. Both of them work with two completely different attributes. You're solely using her for her chakra, and in a buff-heavy meta, that's a dumb idea, since you're wasting either Gaara's barrier buff or Mabui's shields.
You say to use Killer B, but that leaves you with one spot for your main. Now you sacrifice either one cc or one dps/combo-starting mystery; neither of which is ideal.
Finally, not everyone has Killer B. Using Wind Main, like I've said, allows anybody with Kazekage Gaara to generate chakra without relying on two other characters. You just have to wait a week or two. This post was last edited by DraconusNex at 2017-1-4 00:32 -
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- DraconusNex On 2017-01-04 13:05:21
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Sorry, my statement is pretty vague. Let me clarify
In 2.0, the Wind Main gains a passive that gives her Sage Mode status. It increases her ninjutsu by some amount and gives 15 chakra every time she chases. With a gold summon and her regular chase, she can get 45 extra chakra on turn 1.
If you have a character that can give just 20 extra chakra on turn 1, Sage characters, Orochimaru, etc, it's easy to use Gaara's mystery on turn 2.
And if things don't work out, just use another mystery on turn 2, have Wind Main do some more chases, and you should have plenty.
Dance of Impetus, rinse and repeat lol
wait wait wait no I lied
Just use another mystery, like you said, on turn 2.
On turn 3, I have 60 chakra.
I use something that costs 20. I have 40 left.
45 from chases and that equals 85. I'll use it in the barrier, and it'll still hit for massive damage even without chases. Gotcha!!! -
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- JustAClone On 2017-01-04 13:10:50
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It *s how Chakra can't roll over, though . .
On Turn 1, you get 45 Chakra, but it doesn't matter, right?
Turn 2, you'll still have 40. . . .
And if you manage to muster up 40 more chakra. . well uh. . .your Gaara Mystery isn't prompt at all, then, no?
Enemy will have a prompt mystery and go ham . . .
But I didn't know that summons count toward her chase. . . woooo . .
That's REALLY interesting. . .thanks for that! ^^
I don't exactly know how chakra rollover works, but I know that it stays for round 2. There are some videos of China players using Kazekage Gaara like this.
Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKimkxAnVOc
I also know that Mabui's 40 chakra gain rolls over from the previous round. It's weird, since things like Ao clone chakra doesn't. *shrug*
So, if you don't use a round 1 mystery, then you should have 85 chakra by the beginning of round 2. If you do, put somebody else (in the video's case, he used Sage Naruto) as your Move 1 and use their mystery. All things put together, you should have enough chakra to use Gaara's mystery too. You can save that for round 3, or, if you're running dance of impetus, us it, reset the cooldown, and wreak havoc with both mysteries :D
DISCLAIMER FOR MODS: The contents of this video shows gameplay of the Chinese version. I understand that it may not be accurate to the NA version, and any differences are not the fault of the developers or the game. Please don't take down this thread (you can go ahead and delete this reply if need be).
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- DraconusNex On 2017-01-04 13:18:36
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Hmm. Where to start.
The immobile chases are probably what makes the Kages so good, but that doesn't mean Darui isn't one of the best.
1. His paralyze chase basically allows you to stop all combos every round, which means that immobile chase isn't happening anyway.
2. If you're still using Midnight Blade's Chidori Blade mystery, you're horribly outdated.
3. His mystery still hits hard and is 40 chakra cost, meaning it's more easily used by players that were able to get him and don't have somebody like Sage Naruto or Mabui to generate chakra for a 60 or 80 cost mystery by turn 2.
4. Mei's mystery is better, but it really doesn't matter when you can stop it with round 1 cc. With root of Warrior, you can't stop Darui.
5. You say that Darui is the worst, but you're only comparing him to Mei, who is hands-down the best kage. Tell me what advantage that Onoki or Gaara has over Darui that make them better overall....
P.S. Mabui and Kazekage Gaara is quite possibly the most disjointed team out there. Both of them work with two completely different attributes. You're solely using her for her chakra, and in a buff-heavy meta, that's a dumb idea, since you're wasting either Gaara's barrier buff or Mabui's shields.
You say to use Killer B, but that leaves you with one spot for your main. Now you sacrifice either one cc or one dps/combo-starting mystery; neither of which is ideal.
Finally, not everyone has Killer B. Using Wind Main, like I've said, allows anybody with Kazekage Gaara to generate chakra without relying on two other characters. You just have to wait a week or two. This post was last edited by DraconusNex at 2017-1-4 00:32
there are plenty of setups for Gaara nuking with wind main but that's not really the point. Also I don't know where people got the idea of root making it so your mystery can't be rupted but just so you know acupuncture immobile interruption all still will stop your mystery, which means the way you use root is letting them hit you before you use your mystery then you mystery next and leech back the damage you took (something Darui can't do..because he's pure nin..) Not to say he's bad, he's just a direct upgrade from 3 Star Sasuke (hence the exact same growth stats)
This is how I would rank the Kage Rares
Mei
Gaara
Danzo
Darui
Bee(this one can be worst or best in kage treasure depends heavily upon certain ninja and gets better later)
Chojuro/Mifune/Onoki all about the same.
People that don't have Darui or haven't used him much are overrating him making him seem way better than he actually is so I'm just giving my two cents as someone who has used Darui since day one of kage treasures being released. If Darui's mystery was mixed damage instead of pure nin he would be so much better than he is right now its unreal, but sadly that will never be changed so he won't ever be game changing like Mei Tendo SS Gaara etc -
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- Kaigen On 2017-01-04 15:00:14
- You are all aware every thread Iceice posts is just an excuse to advertise his youtube channel right? Thats pretty much all the guy does.
Eh, it's fine. There was discussion about other topics, some strategy was thrown around, all good stuff.
He can go ahead and try to get his exposure and maybe a few people will give him some views. The conversation moved away from IceIce since the 2nd reply lol -
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