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- KokutoNM On 2017-01-02 10:08:27
- i'm actually confused as to why ppl are even happy about that? there are ninjas way stronger than him than deals a lot in the whole team, tobi has only 1 target. He can be annoying but i don't feel like he's that much of a problem
There are plenty of ninja that are stronger than Tobi. He's definitely not the best ninja, by far.
He just had a whole slew of gimmicks that made him annoying and difficult to deal with. He can dodge, revive, hit like a truck, and start combos. That's more than most other character has in their bag of tricks.
Because of that, and how easy it is to 5 star him, he becomes a constant in many teams and is hard to deal with. It's not a huge problem, but when 17/17 matches in Survival Trials has a Tobi in it, you develop a special hatred for the character.
Not to mention that several Fire mains in my server just copy and paste the same team. With some effort, you can deal with it, but god does it * the fun out of the game. -
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Is there anywhere where we can see the 4th column skills?
(edit) kind of off-topic, but like, I'm going to have to change my team with this Tobi change. haha.
Used to run a water team, but finally changed to fire to experience the Tobi-Train. . . .
I have another team but like. . . I feel like 4th column skills can open up a lot more possible teams. . .
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As much as you guys dislike tobi for some f2p he was the best thing we could get out hands on ;-; i haven't gotten anything better to the point i'd even consider replacing tobi
I do understand the copy and paste formation because mine got copied a lot even before i released it in the forums > > -
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- JustAClone On 2017-01-02 11:35:34
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Is there anywhere where we can see the 4th column skills?
(edit) kind of off-topic, but like, I'm going to have to change my team with this Tobi change. haha.
Used to run a water team, but finally changed to fire to experience the Tobi-Train. . . .
I have another team but like. . . I feel like 4th column skills can open up a lot more possible teams. . .
This post was last edited by JustAClone at 2017-1-2 11:37
Try this :
https://docs.google.com/do*ent/d/1vtTQck-DtuaRm6smqFhJ8ZjLqO7Mvd6Kr0QlNKXusRg/mobilebasic -
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- On 2017-01-02 12:05:24
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As much as you guys dislike tobi for some f2p he was the best thing we could get out hands on ;-; i haven't gotten anything better to the point i'd even consider replacing tobi
I do understand the copy and paste formation because mine got copied a lot even before i released it in the forums > >
The reason being was because he was so good it overshadowed other easy to get, yet acceptable ninjas that f2p have access to. Kisame is fine and hidan is actually pretty solid (even though his new form is overshadowing him, but that's new even for the p2w crowd). Deidara was also recently added and from some rumors I heard itachi becomes fairly solid later (plus, he has a bit of that "annoyance factor" that tobi has).
Tobi really had way too much going for him. The revive gave him a 40% health boost, a cc clear/debuff removal and could break a combo chain for a round if it was inititated on him with low health. His mystery I had less issues with, but 20 chakra for solid initial damage, immolating, and being able to follow that with a chase that damages even more than the mystery itself was a bit much. The chase was huge, maybe if it was created by something less common like repulse I would be ok with it - but tons of good ninjas cause knockdown.
I understand it *s because it feels like f2p is nerfed by this, and to an extent it is. But it's because he was/is just such an amazing utility tool that it outshined other, completely acceptable ninjas. Why do you think he was used so much? Because even amongst p2w people he could still overshadow many other options. -
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- Kaigen On 2017-01-02 15:45:43
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The reason being was because he was so good it overshadowed other easy to get, yet acceptable ninjas that f2p have access to. Kisame is fine and hidan is actually pretty solid (even though his new form is overshadowing him, but that's new even for the p2w crowd). Deidara was also recently added and from some rumors I heard itachi becomes fairly solid later (plus, he has a bit of that "annoyance factor" that tobi has).
Tobi really had way too much going for him. The revive gave him a 40% health boost, a cc clear/debuff removal and could break a combo chain for a round if it was inititated on him with low health. His mystery I had less issues with, but 20 chakra for solid initial damage, immolating, and being able to follow that with a chase that damages even more than the mystery itself was a bit much. The chase was huge, maybe if it was created by something less common like repulse I would be ok with it - but tons of good ninjas cause knockdown.
I understand it *s because it feels like f2p is nerfed by this, and to an extent it is. But it's because he was/is just such an amazing utility tool that it outshined other, completely acceptable ninjas. Why do you think he was used so much? Because even amongst p2w people he could still overshadow many other options.
I guess that brought p2w and f2p players to around the same level when we all use Tobi. But he's lost out to the new lightning lineups that come with kage treasure pulls (darui, mifune)
But feelsbad when my lineup is gonna get nerfed that I have to remake it T T
And honestly I don't think almost any of the easy to get ninja will come close to doing tobi's damage so I just hope I can find another way to get a good nin soon. -
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What is kinda bad in this is that they nerf the best free ninja, while at the same time not supplying any more ninjas for the F2P players to reliably farm and at the same time the P2W roster expands steadily, making free ninjas being eaten by powercreep. Agree that Tobi everywhere is boring, but at least he was some minimal equalizer. -
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It's ok to nerf him but just don't make him completely worthless like CN and DE did. I still have a picture of TW version after Tobi nerfed. If you want the pic for proof just inbox me because I can't post it here.
In that picture Tobi's revive passive already changed to increase chakra but his mystery still cause knockdown. Which still make him useful but less annoying to some people.
I don't know if NA can actually make a change and prove what they said is true, not all versions are the same.
If any mod reading this, please consider forward this to ur team and discuss if you guys can keep Tobi's knockdown to make him still viable for most f2p. It's ok to take away his revive tho. This post was last edited by Kouka at 2017-1-3 02:58 -
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- Kouka On 2017-01-03 03:57:00
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It's ok to nerf him but just don't make him completely worthless like CN and DE did. I still have a picture of TW version after Tobi nerfed. If you want the pic for proof just inbox me because I can't post it here.
In that picture Tobi's revive passive already changed to increase chakra but his mystery still cause knockdown. Which still make him useful but less annoying to some people.
I don't know if NA can actually make a change and prove what they said is true, not all versions are the same.
If any mod reading this, please consider forward this to ur team and discuss if you guys can keep Tobi's knockdown to make him still viable for most f2p. It's ok to take away his revive tho. This post was last edited by Kouka at 2017-1-3 02:58
Not sure if the devs/mods really listen, but I'm ok with that as well.
My main problem is the debuff clear associated with his revive, not his mystery -
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Its dumb to nerf a character because "everyone uses him", especially when he is a character that everyone gets and is a staple for F2P players to still compete against the P2W players. Hopefully, the changes that happen keep him balanced and competitive for the F2P people, otherwise its just the dev's giving a huge FU to non-paying players. -
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I really think people should stop worrying about ninjas being too strong or too weak. First of all the only nerf got is no knockdown on his mystery and his rez, wich means he cant be the initiator but he still does his damage and the rez yah its annoying but he still has his dodge.
And a small heads up but later on when another feature comes out tobi will just go back to how he was before and even stronger so just be rdy if u keep playing til that point.
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- Ryukashin On 2017-01-04 12:57:27
- Its dumb to nerf a character because "everyone uses him", especially when he is a character that everyone gets and is a staple for F2P players to still compete against the P2W players. Hopefully, the changes that happen keep him balanced and competitive for the F2P people, otherwise its just the dev's giving a huge FU to non-paying players.
The only "FU" the devs are giving are to the player who abuse Tobi, Didn't save up for a rare in kage, and or neglect kage common 10 draw ninjas. Otherwise I don't see what the problem is in adding more diversity to team building. Having to constantly fight the same copy paste teams with slight tweaks is annoying and boring for the game. The main reason why Tobi was overused was not because of P2Ws, it was because the F2Ps using Tobi held a HUGE advantage over the F2Ps not using Tobi. The whole "Tobi was the only tool against P2W" argument is FALSE. P2Ws could run a microwave in there comps and still beat you with the huge power differance. Now F2Ps won't have to be meta slaves and run Tobi inorder to compete against other F2Ps with Tobi. I'm looking foward to the changes tomorrow and can't wait to see the unique teams people will build in survival. Good Luck! -
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